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#101
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Maria Caliban wrote...

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Who is Chris Bane?


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If you are nice to him, he will send you cool stuff.

If he doesn't like you, he picks you up and breaks your spine over his leg while the other con goers watch in horror.



Thanks! So if he is a Bioware employee, and assuming for a moment that the claim that he stated at PAX that someone from Asunder is a companion, there might be something to those Cole rumors. If not Cole, then who else from Asunder?

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I don't care that he kills people, I care that he is a leech.


After the kind of companions we had in the first two games, having a leech seems pretty normal to me.

Of course not, I killed Velanna and Anders too.

What's so bad about Velanna?

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She killed a bunch of people in a mad fit of rage and doesn't regret it when she's told of the Darkspawn.

I can't roleplay any of my characters to help- or recruit her except the Dalish ones who might understand her madness.

Modifié par Knight of Dane, 09 septembre 2013 - 09:32 .


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Knight of Dane wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

I don't care that he kills people, I care that he is a leech.


After the kind of companions we had in the first two games, having a leech seems pretty normal to me.

Of course not, I killed Velanna and Anders too.


The lack of killed Merrill in that post is disturbing.

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Merrill never harmed anyone.

EDIT: At least anyone who did not initiate combat.

Modifié par Knight of Dane, 09 septembre 2013 - 09:35 .


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Merrill never harmed anyone.

EDIT: At least anyone who did not initiate combat.


Neither did Cole, he only killed people who asked him to and people who attacked him or his friends.

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 09 septembre 2013 - 09:39 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

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Even though he was largely invisible in during the events of Asunder, it doesn't mean Mr. Gaider and company couldn't find some excuse for him to be partially or completely visible in some form or another.


"The Veil is tearing, spirits are pouring into the world, and beings once invisible have gained form."

Give this woman a job on the writing team. Pronto!:)

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DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

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Merrill never harmed anyone.

Except all the people we've killed throughout the game, you mean.

Look at dat updated post mate. Besides, I don't blame anyone for defending themselves.

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Knight of Dane wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

Merrill never harmed anyone.

Except all the people we've killed throughout the game, you mean.

Look at dat updated post mate. Besides, I don't blame anyone for defending themselves.


Already changed it. B)

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DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

Merrill never harmed anyone.

EDIT: At least anyone who did not initiate combat.


Neither did Cole, he only killed people who asked him to and people who attacked him or his friends.

Yeah, sure. Nothing wrong with Cole.

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Knight of Dane wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

Merrill never harmed anyone.

EDIT: At least anyone who did not initiate combat.


Neither did Cole, he only killed people who asked him to and people who attacked him or his friends.

Yeah, sure. Nothing wrong with Cole.


Have you been playing any recent Bioware games? Every companion has issue's. :lol:

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It still can be Cole , in Asunder , he's very lost , scared and does not fully control his power.
He was a very traumatized spirit /demon/soul/whatever ...I would say by the end of the novel , he's ready to shift to something else.
I'm pretty sure he can control his invisibilty now ,and if he wants to be seen it won't be a problem.

Now there's the blood magic trouble , he was sort of sucked back to the fade or a place beyond Maybe he still need to kill to keep on living in Thedas.
Or maybe it was just his anxiety manifesting and it's now solved.
Sometimes I wonder if the soul of the original Cole is still on the line and sort of mixed with a demon /spirit passing by .

Anyway him being invisible shouldn't be a problem , it would make a great rogue power ,if he ends up a companion.

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DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

Merrill never harmed anyone.

EDIT: At least anyone who did not initiate combat.


Neither did Cole, he only killed people who asked him to and people who attacked him or his friends.

Yeah, sure. Nothing wrong with Cole.


Have you been playing any recent Bioware games? Every companion has issue's. :lol:

And for the most part I've been able to choose between the murderous maniacs and the over ambitious failures.

I prefer my failures.

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Well, now I know to request playing cards be included in the DAI collector's edition. *so jealous*

On topic, I really hope to see Cole in Inquisition. He doesn't necessarily have to be a companion but if he is I'm cool with that.

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Knight of Dane wrote...
And for the most part I've been able to choose between the murderous maniacs and the over ambitious failures.

I prefer my failures.


I would love to know what you considering "Murderous Maniacs" are and "Over ambitious failures" are.

Then again, Cole is neither a murderer (well, compare to every DA companion so far his pretty innocent) nor has he failed so I guess his good so far.

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 09 septembre 2013 - 09:51 .


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And for the most part I've been able to choose between the murderous maniacs and the over ambitious failures.

I prefer my failures.


I would love to know what you considering "Murderous Maniacs" are and "Over ambitious failures" are.

Then again, Cole is neither a murderer (well, compare to every DA companion so far his pretty innocent) nor has he failed so I guess his good so far.

Easy, murderous maniacs are those that kill for the wrong agendas. Velanna kills because she thinks humans took her sister, Anders blows up a church and Cole kills because he's addicted to it, if not worse.

I can justify the rest of the guys, depending on the character. Zevran is sometimes told to leave and some of my Couslands hang Nathaniel.

EDIT: I call the rest Ambitious failures for fun, because they all need the PC to succeed at anything. ^_^

Modifié par Knight of Dane, 09 septembre 2013 - 09:56 .


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It would be kind of neat to have Cole as an Arcane Rogue. Maybe make his ability to turn invisible/intangible as his class skill tree. You could use it in combat to improve his ability to flank the enemy, maybe even make it so that he doesn't set off traps while incorporeal.

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She was his boss and done what about it exactly?

I am no fan of meredith's but she had good reasons for what she was doing. It was only at the end that she completely lost it. He also doesn't hate mages he was completely in awe of the Amell warden for example and he does stand up to meredith once she decides to kill hawke who can be a mage!



A Captain can order their Knight-Commander to step down if they deem to be insane or not following the rules of the Order. It took Cullen a while , as more harm was being done to the city, to figure out that Meredith was not obeying the Order.

Ser Thrask was far better templar than he was.

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To be honest i would love some normal companions or at least one sane gril/guy who isn't psycho alistair was nearest however he acted like child.

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Knight of Dane wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...
And for the most part I've been able to choose between the murderous maniacs and the over ambitious failures.

I prefer my failures.


I would love to know what you considering "Murderous Maniacs" are and "Over ambitious failures" are.

Then again, Cole is neither a murderer (well, compare to every DA companion so far his pretty innocent) nor has he failed so I guess his good so far.

Easy, murderous maniacs are those that kill for the wrong agendas. Velanna kills because she thinks humans took her sister, Anders blows up a church and Cole kills because he's addicted to it, if not worse.

I can justify the rest of the guys, depending on the character. Zevran is sometimes told to leave and some of my Couslands hang Nathaniel.


Cole spared Pharamond when Pharamond begged him to be killed and Cole even said he would help him escape but Pharamond kept asking to die. In the end, Cole left him.

Cole also let the girl trapped in Adamant fortress go free and into safety.

If he was addicted to it, they surely would have been killed.

Also he has no memory of his past and so has no idea that killing is wrong. After Rhys confronts him, I sure as hell don't remember him killing anyone except in self defense.

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Lord Raijin wrote...
Ser Thrask was far better templar than he was.

Yeah, the guy whose second in command was an Abomination (who ended up killing him) and allowed the mages under his command to use blood magic to create undead was a bloody good templar.
Totally did not fail in his duties in every way possible at all.

#122
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DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...
And for the most part I've been able to choose between the murderous maniacs and the over ambitious failures.

I prefer my failures.


I would love to know what you considering "Murderous Maniacs" are and "Over ambitious failures" are.

Then again, Cole is neither a murderer (well, compare to every DA companion so far his pretty innocent) nor has he failed so I guess his good so far.

Easy, murderous maniacs are those that kill for the wrong agendas. Velanna kills because she thinks humans took her sister, Anders blows up a church and Cole kills because he's addicted to it, if not worse.

I can justify the rest of the guys, depending on the character. Zevran is sometimes told to leave and some of my Couslands hang Nathaniel.


Cole spared Pharamond when Pharamond begged him to be killed and Cole even said he would help him escape but Pharamond kept asking to die. In the end, Cole left him.

Cole also let the girl trapped in Adamant fortress go free and into safety.

If he was addicted to it, they surely would have been killed.

Also he has no memory of his past and so has no idea that killing is wrong. After Rhys confronts him, I sure as hell don't remember him killing anyone except in self defense.

As I said, he die sif he's the same. I never said characters can't change.

And instances of angelic behavior does not forgive your soul to the devil. I think a christian girl said that once. Anyway, I like the morale behind it even if I'm not religious.

Now, I don't feel like discussing this any more, Cole dies if I'm able, unless he's useful or another man. And if he is another man, the idea of incorperating kinda fades.

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Jumping a bit late but

David Gaider wrote...

Taleroth wrote...
The written note said a protagonist from Asunder would show up. And she assured us she also heard it would be as a companion.


Ah, that makes sense. Chris says someone from Asunder would show up, and that leads to me having said someone from Asunder will be a companion.

Whew! I was confused there, for a moment. :)


Pretty sure Taleroth is talking about my sloppy, chickenscratch notes during the Product Review panel. I said multiple times across my blog, twitter, and latest video that the character would be in Inquisition, but not confirmed as a companion.

So, yea. There's that. :P

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Also he has no memory of his past and so has no idea that killing is wrong.

In the very first chapter of "Asunder", he says to himself "You must stop" after killing the girl who burned her family and fears the templars will see him and deal with him so, he acknowledges that killing is wrong and looked down upon.

 After Rhys confronts him, I sure as hell don't remember him killing anyone except in self defense.

Those templars whose throats he slit and Lambert didn't attack him.
Of course, Cole killing for his agenda doesn't make him more morally abhorrent than any of the companions or even PCs.

Modifié par MisterJB, 09 septembre 2013 - 10:15 .


#125
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Knight of Dane wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...
And for the most part I've been able to choose between the murderous maniacs and the over ambitious failures.

I prefer my failures.


I would love to know what you considering "Murderous Maniacs" are and "Over ambitious failures" are.

Then again, Cole is neither a murderer (well, compare to every DA companion so far his pretty innocent) nor has he failed so I guess his good so far.

Easy, murderous maniacs are those that kill for the wrong agendas. Velanna kills because she thinks humans took her sister, Anders blows up a church and Cole kills because he's addicted to it, if not worse.

I can justify the rest of the guys, depending on the character. Zevran is sometimes told to leave and some of my Couslands hang Nathaniel.


Cole spared Pharamond when Pharamond begged him to be killed and Cole even said he would help him escape but Pharamond kept asking to die. In the end, Cole left him.

Cole also let the girl trapped in Adamant fortress go free and into safety.

If he was addicted to it, they surely would have been killed.

Also he has no memory of his past and so has no idea that killing is wrong. After Rhys confronts him, I sure as hell don't remember him killing anyone except in self defense.

As I said, he die sif he's the same. I never said characters can't change.

And instances of angelic behavior does not forgive your soul to the devil. I think a christian girl said that once. Anyway, I like the morale behind it even if I'm not religious.

Now, I don't feel like discussing this any more, Cole dies if I'm able, unless he's useful or another man. And if he is another man, the idea of incorperating kinda fades.

But he already did change for the better.