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[leaguer of one]

MisterJB wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...
Also he has no memory of his past and so has no idea that killing is wrong.

In the very first chapter of "Asunder", he says to himself "You must stop" after killing the girl who burned her family and fears the templars will see him and deal with him so, he acknowledges that killing is wrong and looked down upon.

 After Rhys confronts him, I sure as hell don't remember him killing anyone except in self defense.

Those templars whose throats he slit and Lambert didn't attack him.
Of course, Cole killing for his agenda doesn't make him more morally abhorrent than any of the companions or even PCs.

1. He killed those templar to save the mages of the tower. Lilliana, a hand of the divine was going to do that any way. And after what Lambert had it coming.

[Knight of Dane]

No

[leaguer of one]

MisterJB wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...
Ser Thrask was far better templar than he was.

Yeah, the guy whose second in command was an Abomination (who ended up killing him) and allowed the mages under his command to use blood magic to create undead was a bloody good templar.
Totally did not fail in his duties in every way possible at all.

Due note that th cause of the abomination was the crazy Knight commander in charge who he was trying to take down.

[leaguer of one]

Knight of Dane wrote...

No

No what?

[kinderschlager]

ziloe wrote...

 For all the flack I'm sure I'm about to get for posting yet another thread that discusses Cole, there's been surprisingly quite the lack of him really mentioned at all, in some time. That said, I'm beginning to believe he will be the next companion. Though, it will no doubt be interesting in how he appears. 

For those who have read Asunder, you know that Cole can't be seen by too many people, if at all. But he could be seen when they went to the fade. And now that the fade has come to Thedas, through the tear in the veil, there's no doubt he's been revealed to everyone, completely. I wonder how that will work out for his rogue abilities...

Personally I was considering the next companion to be Evangeline, mostly. Because we know we need at least one templar in our party, to fend off evil mages. And I think it would be interesting having her, considering she's a templar with untapped potential now open, due to having the fade spirit inside her, and the fade being right there around her.

Adrian is a bit too hot headed for my taste, and Rhys, well... seriously... how many mages will we have in our party? But really, Rhys, I think he'll be too busy running the rebellion to really be able to traipse off and join our Inquisition.

Also, side note: I'd love to have Shale back.

((Discuss))

she's too busy smashing pigeons:D

[Knight of Dane]

leaguer of one wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

No

No what?

Just no 

[leaguer of one]

Knight of Dane wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

No

No what?

Just no 

To what?

[GloriousDame]

I'm done with spirit/demons.  I had enough with Justice for a while. Hopefully, they won't pull an EDI and basically force us to take him as a companion (not that I minded EDI, she was good).

But thinking on it, I doubt it's Cole.  The likelyhood that it is Rhys is, in my opinion, higher than having Cole as a companion.  We have already seen a rogue and a warrior in game play, and still only have one mage. Rhys takes this spot, seeing that Cole is a demon. 

[BubbleDncr]

I'd honestly prefer it if Cole was not a companion. Its kind of irksome to me for there to be a companion that people who read the book would have all this meta game knowledge about that people who didn't read the book don't have to deal with.

I read The Calling before i played Awakening, and if definitely colored my view of the Architect. I'd rather not deal with that with a companion.

[Daerog]

By this time, we need a possessed person in the party. There was Wynne, Justice (in Awakening), and then Anders. The possessed Templar lady or Cole would fit the spot, but if it's Cole, I would like a choice to remove him from Thedas. The Templar lady with the Faith spirit can stick around, but only because of the Faith spirit being a cameo from DA:O.

[Faerah]

BubbleDncr wrote...

I'd honestly prefer it if Cole was not a companion. Its kind of irksome to me for there to be a companion that people who read the book would have all this meta game knowledge about that people who didn't read the book don't have to deal with.

I read The Calling before i played Awakening, and if definitely colored my view of the Architect. I'd rather not deal with that with a companion.

I wouldn't really say reading the book gives us any edge over anyone else that hasn't. We just know his back story, which, if he is a companion, will be repeated in the game regardless. Sure, maybe we know tidbits of information that might not be relayed in the game, but those bits will probably be unimportant in the larger scheme. It shouldn't really be anything like the Architect. He also doesn't really have the impact that the Architect has on the world.

Reading the Stolen Throne didn't really change my view of Loghain, maybe except for understanding the exact extent of how much he hated Orlesians and how betrayed he felt after finding out the spoilers that were in Return to Ostagar.

The bottom line is Cole is a very, very tragic character. Whether you actually feel bad for him or not is irrelevant, not everyone has to like him. And in the other games, you can potentially kill your companions, make them leave, or just never recruit them. So if he -is- a companion, you might not -have- to keep him around.

Modifié par Faerah, 10 septembre 2013 - 12:56 .

[Fredward]

I'd really like to see Cole as a companion. For me he has the most potential for change and development in the games so far. He's just so damn intriguing. Plus how would the Tear effect him? Is there anything of the kid left but his memories? Is he just a really well preserved corpse? Is he a demon or a spirit? Was he a demon and got twisted, kinda like Justice but in a good way? Now that he knows what he is will he continue to fade without killing people? So many potential questions. If he isn't a companion I'd really like to hear why he wasn't chosen, afterwards of course. And I don't mean that in a ****y or mean or a "I am a FAN and I DEMAND you answer me because ENTITLEMENT!" way I'd genuinely want to know cuz I'd be curious and very, very disappointed.

[Chiantirose1982]

leaguer of one wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...
Ser Thrask was far better templar than he was.

Yeah, the guy whose second in command was an Abomination (who ended up killing him) and allowed the mages under his command to use blood magic to create undead was a bloody good templar.
Totally did not fail in his duties in every way possible at all.

Due note that th cause of the abomination was the crazy Knight commander in charge who he was trying to take down.

Actually that's not the case. Grace had her own selfish reason to be with Thrask, she didn't give a damn about Meredith. All she wanted was revenge, because Hawke killed her lover.

[GDog89]

Cole is the Most likely due to his unique situation and he might have considerable knowledge to help the Inquisition Prevail.

[ziloe]

GDog89 wrote...

Cole is the Most likely due to his unique situation and he might have considerable knowledge to help the Inquisition Prevail.

Not to mention, we know so little of his backstory, aside from what we've already been told. And a lot has happened since, since apparently Inquisition happens a few years later.

[StickySalarian]

 I would actually adore to have Cole as a companion. He's easily one of the most intriguing Dragon age characters, if not the most, and I do want to learn more about him. 
Plus, how would he deal with people being able to see him? Would he feel remorse for the mages he killed, would he tell you about Rhys and whatnot?

I'm praying he is the Asunder character we get! If not him, then I want Adrian. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

StickySalarian wrote...

 I would actually adore to have Cole as a companion. He's easily one of the most intriguing Dragon age characters, if not the most, and I do want to learn more about him. 
Plus, how would he deal with people being able to see him? Would he feel remorse for the mages he killed, would he tell you about Rhys and whatnot?

I'm praying he is the Asunder character we get! If not him, then I want Adrian. 

nah they sucks i prefer lambert to be companion he is badass not like other loosers in this book. 

[Fetunche]

Lambert was a dick, hopefully a dead one.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Fetunche wrote...

Lambert was a dick, hopefully a dead one.

yep he was but still badass and awesome i don't need another leliana , alistair or merril as goody goody with life what sucks characters as well i don't emo like fenris or anders such chracater would be refreshing.And if he is dead that would be disappointing he would be worthy opponent for my mage or more pr*** companion.

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 10 septembre 2013 - 02:24 .

[ziloe]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

StickySalarian wrote...

 I would actually adore to have Cole as a companion. He's easily one of the most intriguing Dragon age characters, if not the most, and I do want to learn more about him. 
Plus, how would he deal with people being able to see him? Would he feel remorse for the mages he killed, would he tell you about Rhys and whatnot?

I'm praying he is the Asunder character we get! If not him, then I want Adrian. 

nah they sucks i prefer lambert to be companion he is badass not like other loosers in this book. 

I hope both of you were joking, because both Lambert and Adrian had no sense of patience.

[Faerah]

As I was re-reading Asunder last night, I noticed (relearned?) how ferociously loyal Cole is to people he considers his friends and will do anything for their safety. Inquisitor and Cole BFFs for best bodyguard ever...I also don't remember him seeming that mature but it seems he only reverts to childish mannerisms when he's stressed or having a mental breakdown. Otherwise he's relatively smart and curious. I also find it entertaining that he's really bad at lying and deception. If he is a demon he is -terrible- at being a demon. It also sort of goes against the normal rogue stereotype.

[TheKomandorShepard]

ziloe wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

StickySalarian wrote...

 I would actually adore to have Cole as a companion. He's easily one of the most intriguing Dragon age characters, if not the most, and I do want to learn more about him. 
Plus, how would he deal with people being able to see him? Would he feel remorse for the mages he killed, would he tell you about Rhys and whatnot?

I'm praying he is the Asunder character we get! If not him, then I want Adrian. 

nah they sucks i prefer lambert to be companion he is badass not like other loosers in this book. 

I hope both of you were joking, because both Lambert and Adrian had no sense of patience.

I don't care about adrian evangeline kicked her ass in one second and she couldn't shut up , lambert is awsome maybe he isn't good guy be you don't have to be one to be good character. Lambert took almost all divine forces and tell divine to f*** off what shows that he is much better leader than she is , he win in the end he want war with mages he got that. 

[Kaidan Fan]

Gut feeling is he won't be in the game and I hope my gut is right 

[ziloe]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

ziloe wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

StickySalarian wrote...

 I would actually adore to have Cole as a companion. He's easily one of the most intriguing Dragon age characters, if not the most, and I do want to learn more about him. 
Plus, how would he deal with people being able to see him? Would he feel remorse for the mages he killed, would he tell you about Rhys and whatnot?

I'm praying he is the Asunder character we get! If not him, then I want Adrian. 

nah they sucks i prefer lambert to be companion he is badass not like other loosers in this book. 

I hope both of you were joking, because both Lambert and Adrian had no sense of patience.

I don't care about adrian evangeline kicked her ass in one second and she couldn't shut up , lambert is awsome maybe he isn't good guy be you don't have to be one to be good character. Lambert took almost all divine forces and tell divine to f*** off what shows that he is much better leader than she is , he win in the end he want war with mages he got that. 

From what we've seen from the leaked info on characters, most don't seem like entirely great people... so to add Lambert to that list, no thanks. I really, really hope we get more characters like Alistair. 

I wasn't at all crazy for most of the characters in DA2 either, to be completely honest.

Modifié par ziloe, 10 septembre 2013 - 07:22 .

[TheKomandorShepard]

ziloe wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

ziloe wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

StickySalarian wrote...

 I would actually adore to have Cole as a companion. He's easily one of the most intriguing Dragon age characters, if not the most, and I do want to learn more about him. 
Plus, how would he deal with people being able to see him? Would he feel remorse for the mages he killed, would he tell you about Rhys and whatnot?

I'm praying he is the Asunder character we get! If not him, then I want Adrian. 

nah they sucks i prefer lambert to be companion he is badass not like other loosers in this book. 

I hope both of you were joking, because both Lambert and Adrian had no sense of patience.

I don't care about adrian evangeline kicked her ass in one second and she couldn't shut up , lambert is awsome maybe he isn't good guy be you don't have to be one to be good character. Lambert took almost all divine forces and tell divine to f*** off what shows that he is much better leader than she is , he win in the end he want war with mages he got that. 

From what we've seen from the leaked info on characters, most don't seem like entirely great people... so to add Lambert to that list, no thanks. I really, really hope we get more characters like Alistair. 

I wasn't at all crazy for most of the characters in DA2 either, to be completely honest.

cassandra and varric (lol varric become moral compass) seems to be one like alistair just cassandra thinks that sacrifice is good and this mage i don't know what her character will be. We don't get single "evil" character as companion in da except morrigan which was stupid evil character so no thanks for alistair or grey characters i want finally guy who will backstab us without blinking and will be utterly ruthless in his goal like bishop from nwn 2.

I would be glad if we get neutral evil or lawful evil companion.

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 10 septembre 2013 - 07:30 .