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SO I was just interneting, minding my own then I came across this:-

http://tvtropes.org/...eIIIInquisition

if that link dose not work just copy and paste this into the browser hmmk
http://tvtropes.org/...eIIIInquisition


Anyways you might be wondering why I posted this on the fourm, I was reading the comments and such and these two bits of information caught my eye.

They're going to Shepardize the Warden
Those who played through Mass Effect 3 noticed how Shepard's started
cracking under the pressure and becoming something else than a mere
shell for the player to inhabit. This time, they will reintroduce the
Warden as a Suddenly Voiced NPC, wrecked by guilt over how he/she unwittingly pushed toward the Mage-Templar war, such turning what was a Featureless Protagonist into a more rounded character.
  • They'll also use his/her family name, calling him/her "Lord
    Commander Brosca" (Dwarf Commoner) or "Lady Commander Surana" (Elf
    Mage), etc...
  • Also, there will be multiple family names that you can be known as, with each origin having a different surname.
Hawke and/or the Warden might make an appearance
Both or one of them might make cameos in the Inquistor story-line by
helping/mentoring the new player about the world and where s/he stands
in Thedas.
  • And the Warden will be Suddenly Voiced—by the same actor/actress who did their respective voice setImage IPB, as imported from Origins.
    • While that would be lovely, this would have to be sadly Jossed unless BioWare pulls The Other Darrin: Robin Sachs (the voice of the Experienced Human) passed away during the DLC cycle of Mass Effect 3.
    • As sad as that is, if they really decide to do this, replacing
      one actor will probably still be easier than reassembling and recording
      over 30 versions of the same dialogue.
  • Also they'd have to recast if they're keeping the accent changes with DAII. So say goodbye to your Yuri Lowenthal voiced male Dalish elf.
    • Not necessarily: they haven't exactly been consistent with
      their established accents in DAII, after all, and several Dalish elves
      in it still have American or otherwise not Irish nor Welsh accents. I've
      gotten the impression that they don't really care of applying it
      properly and consistently anymore, so I can't see them pulling off The Other Darrin for that reason.


So is this just fanfiction? or is there a tad bit of truth?

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Yes, the WMG page is just the random ideas of fans, plural. WMG stands for "Wild Mass Guessing."

Modifié par thats1evildude, 09 septembre 2013 - 11:05 .


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ArtemisMoons

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Anything that isn't officially confirmed, I would take with a grain of salt.

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LOL TVTropes, while endlessly entertaining, is in zero ways an acceptable source of even rumor-based material.

The threads here on the BSN have more likelihood of veracity than random TVTropes postings. But interesting find, nonetheless.

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You fool. By linking TVTropes you've easily drained 5 hours of productivity from people. I hope you're happy.

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ScarMK wrote...

You fool. By linking TVTropes you've easily drained 5 hours of productivity from people. I hope you're happy.


Ha! Or was that the plan all along?! You fiend!

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Why would the Warden feel guilty about the Templar/Mage War? That seems to be a kind of random guess rather than a... not so random guess...

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ScarMK wrote...

You fool. By linking TVTropes you've easily drained 5 hours of productivity from people. I hope you're happy.


Yup, there goes my plans for an early night. And to quote the top of the page linked to:

'This is a "Wild Mass Guess" entry, where we pull out all the sanity stops on theorizing.'

So it's a bit churlish to complain about any random theorizing that occurs. Right, I'm going to read that one page now and no more. I will not so much as touch a link. Honestly.

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The whole point of the Wild Mass Guessing section is absurd speculation.

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DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Why would the Warden feel guilty about the Templar/Mage War? That seems to be a kind of random guess rather than a... not so random guess...


The Warden saved Anders from execution, and Anders later fled the Grey Wardens and started the war. 

It's canon, no matter what you actually picked, that the Warden saved Anders. 

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Gruffe wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Why would the Warden feel guilty about the Templar/Mage War? That seems to be a kind of random guess rather than a... not so random guess...


The Warden saved Anders from execution, and Anders later fled the Grey Wardens and started the war. 

It's canon, no matter what you actually picked, that the Warden saved Anders. 


It is not canon that The Warden (a.k,a, The Hero of Ferelden) saved Anders by recruiting him.

It is canon that The Wardens save Anders by recruiting him if The Hero of Ferelden did not.

Not sure if you were mistaken or just accidently forgot the s on the end so I thought I'd clarify.

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 10 septembre 2013 - 04:25 .


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Lokiwithrope

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Huh. I brought one of those entries.

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Former_Fiend

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I've done my fair share of contributing to that page. I put up the "Who will we get to kill" entry, among others. It was funnier before they organized it alphabetically. Flemeth was mentioned three times.

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I don't think they'll suddenly voice the Warden. Would be a bit of a slap in the face for everyone who played DA:O to suddenly have their character voiced.

So if anything, if we do see something of the Warden, it'll be by references of other characters, or written communication.

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Yes. Yes it is.

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makenzieshepard wrote...

Gruffe wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Why would the Warden feel guilty about the Templar/Mage War? That seems to be a kind of random guess rather than a... not so random guess...


The Warden saved Anders from execution, and Anders later fled the Grey Wardens and started the war. 

It's canon, no matter what you actually picked, that the Warden saved Anders. 


It is not canon that The Warden (a.k,a, The Hero of Ferelden) saved Anders by recruiting him.

It is canon that The Wardens save Anders by recruiting him if The Hero of Ferelden did not.

Not sure if you were mistaken or just accidently forgot the s on the end so I thought I'd clarify.


Huh, really? I thought in Dragon Age II he says he was recruited by the Warden Commander no matter what. While I suppose him being recruited by someone else does make some more sense, 

Does he know Nathaniel (sp?) if you don't recruite him?

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Taura-Tierno wrote...

I don't think they'll suddenly voice the Warden. Would be a bit of a slap in the face for everyone who played DA:O to suddenly have their character voiced.

So if anything, if we do see something of the Warden, it'll be by references of other characters, or written communication.


As someone who played Origins, I wouldn't take it as a slap in the face.

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Gruffe wrote...

Huh, really? I thought in Dragon Age II he says he was recruited by the Warden Commander no matter what. While I suppose him being recruited by someone else does make some more sense,


The Warden-commander is not necessarily the Hero of Ferelden

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The page you linked directly stated at the start that is speculation at its extreme.
And I don't see why the Warden should feel guilty about the mage-templar war. Yes, be saved Anders, but it's not his fault if the templars were so inefficients to not find Anders before he was under the Champion's protection. It wasn't his fault if Varric and Anders protected him.
And ultimately, Anders was just one of the important people that lead to the war (along with Meredith). Adrian and Lambert had central roles as well.

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Yes. Some of the entries in the WMG pages can be a bit random.

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WMG is not meant to be taken seriously. It's basically silly and fun guesses and theories.

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I like their theory of the Fen'Harel being the Maker. That would be a laugh.

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Ekas wrote...

I like their theory of the Fen'Harel being the Maker. That would be a laugh.


That theory is not theirs. It's a theory that circulated since DAO, due to elven and Chantry lore having points in common.
It's actually a plausible theory, and I believe it might be true. The fact that The Fires Above trailer hinted that dragons came out to the Fade (which is above earth, where the Creators should've been locked), and that dragons are sealed underground (were both the Old Gods and the Forgotten Ones are said to be sealed), could expand the theory in believing that the Elven Gods are (as the Old Gods) dragons, and that Fen'harel/the Maker is...... a woman that meddles with certain people that became heroes.:whistle:

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Hmm. Somebody bookmark this and see if they had the right guesses in a years time when the game comes out.

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