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[Peer of the Empire]

Frostbite is next to CryEngine the most advanced graphics engine at the moment, so I am surprised you are surprised, OP

[OLDIRTYBARON]

Welcome to Next Gen. This current console cycle has gone on so long a lot of PC gamers have forgotten how bloody expensive the hobby is.

My guess is that by the time DA3 is released, there won't be a current day card that can handle it all. I look forward to the bleeting.

Modifié par OLDIRTYBARON, 10 septembre 2013 - 04:01 .

[Peer of the Empire]

Windows 8 apparently allows better CPU throughput of some new DX 11.1 features

I love Windows 8. Feels snappier, has better SSD management, and no doubt other things, over Win 7

Customize Metro to strip out ignore most tablet features / change to non objectionable colors and spend most of the time on the desktop still, with desktop apps.  I now have an upgrade over the old Start menu

Modifié par Peer of the Empire, 10 septembre 2013 - 04:02 .

[Nyxanna]

Sorry but you can't just take BF4 and assume that it will have the same specs just because it's the same engine. That makes no sense whatsoever.
There have been games that used Frostbite before and they all had way worse graphics than BF4. Please don't spread stupidity if you don't know what you're talking about.

They haven't released the specs and once they do they'll probably be lower than BF4. You'll probably still need a pretty good card to play on maximum but the majority here is happy if the game runs at all anyway.

[Peer of the Empire]

Nyxanna wrote...

Sorry but you can't just take BF4 and assume that it will have the same specs just because it's the same engine. That makes no sense whatsoever.
There have been games that used Frostbite before and they all had way worse graphics than BF4. Please don't spread stupidity if you don't know what you're talking about.

While technically true, Frostbite is not as static as Unreal has been.  Unreal has been a stable mainstay of this console generation, and they are updating now, but Frostbite as it is in Battlefield 3 is a substantial leap forward.

Though BF4 will be less of a jump

[JCAP]

Nyxanna wrote...

Sorry but you can't just take BF4 and assume that it will have the same specs just because it's the same engine. That makes no sense whatsoever.
There have been games that used Frostbite before and they all had way worse graphics than BF4. Please don't spread stupidity if you don't know what you're talking about.

They haven't released the specs and once they do they'll probably be lower than BF4. You'll probably still need a pretty good card to play on maximum but the majority here is happy if the game runs at all anyway.

Do you know why I believe the specs will be similar to bf4? Here's why:

- when I was screwing around with cryengine, I learned that even if I used the worst low resolution and low poly meshes, the engine would still demand a little power. Why? Illumination, physics, etc...;

- Dragon Age devs always said that Dragon Age will be beautifull (and we can confirm it with the gameplay and the trailer released so far), why wouldn't I assume that they are going to use all the power they can extract from Frostbite? Besides, they have new liberties thanks to the new gen;

- More, wind will affect the bullets trajectory in BF4, why wouldn't they use that feature to move flags? They will use the destruction feature too and maybe more. This will take it's toll.


Using one engine means you will have specific range of specs. I can't use unreal engine to make a game with same graphics as Crysis 3 and I can't use frostbite to make Nintendo DS games.


And try to be more polite next time jerk.

Modifié par JCAP, 10 septembre 2013 - 04:49 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

Specs look fine. As XP is near EOL this is to be expected. Nothing earth shattering.

[The Antagonist]

My 760 would've met the recommended specs, but that vram requirement tripped me up. I think DA:I's will be lower though

[Fast Jimmy]

OLDIRTYBARON wrote...

Welcome to Next Gen. This current console cycle has gone on so long a lot of PC gamers have forgotten how bloody expensive the hobby is.

My guess is that by the time DA3 is released, there won't be a current day card that can handle it all. I look forward to the bleeting.

Doubtful. The game has to be ported to current gen consoles. While the PC and next gen versions are going to be very shiny and glitzy by comparison, there is a limit to how much scaling you can do in graphics alone. The engine has to handle a host of other tasks that means their ceiling for graphics alone has to be relatively limited. I doubt the highest end rig today won't be able to plug a game like DA:I on max settings and still have it work just fine. 

[The Antagonist]

Lord Raijin wrote...

This is my rig

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-2600K 3.40 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1155
HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD
MEMORY: 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module
MOTHERBOARD: * [CrossFireX/SLI] GigaByte GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 Intel Z68 Chipset DDR3 ATX MB w/ Lucid Virtu + Intel Smart Response Technology & 7.1 Dolby Home Theater Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, 2x SATA-III RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 3 PCIe X1 & 2 PCI
POWERSUPPLY: 1,000 Watts - CoolerMaster Silent Pro Gaming 80 Plus Power Supply
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card (I need an upgrade)

If that's your gaming rig, then you've got you're priorities messed up man. (weak gpu + overkill cpu)

[PsychoBlonde]

Maria Caliban wrote...

The recommended specs for BF 4 are likely higher than that of DA:I. That it uses the same engine doesn't matter.

Well . . . yes and no.  Stuff like memory optimization etc. is all handled down at an engine level so there are real limits to how low you can go with a given engine just on the graphics stuff.  DA may actually have HIGHER specs than BF4 for the following reasons:

1.  Third-person camera in DA instead of first-person in BF.  Third-person camera actually adds a surprisingly large amount of graphics calculation because it RADICALLY increases how much your screen changes for each movement of your camera--meaning more stuff to re-draw for every frame.  If you can zoom out and change the camera angles this can get crazy pretty quickly.

2.  WAY more background stuff going on in DA than in BF.  I found out some years ago just how many checks are always going on in party-based RPG's.  It's not minecraft level of absurd, but there's a big difference.  This is why FPS's have the Fantastic Graphics of Fantasticness but more calculation-heavy games always lag behind.  When you've got 4 party members and 15 enemies on screen all making 30+ checks every second, it adds up quick.  DDO has this problem--they've been gradually adding more and more enemies with more and more complex behaviors to new areas, with the result that my computer which runs 60 FPS on max settings in older areas will drop to 5 FPS (frames per second) in newer areas when enemies spawn EVEN AT MINIMUM SETTINGS.  It's insane.  Somebody needs to go whack their designers with the AI Budget Stick until they stop pulling this crap.

So, yeah, while the engine does not determine optimal specs, it's unlikely that DA will actually have LOWER specs than BF4.  The overall visible polygon counts are likely to be fairly close and the 3rd person camera and game processing will probably take up any slack that exists.

[wolfsite]

The min requirements for BF4 are quite reasonable the fact it supports a video card that is now 7 years old should help for those who want to play the game but don't want to shell out for a top of the line system.

[Archaven]

GTX660 is a low end card. I wonder why it needs 3GB? Unless it encourages second monitor and higher resolution of 4K. The 3GB is perhaps a typo?

A mid range card on PC is GTX770 which i'm having it. GTX660 recommended? Wow.. lolx.

Modifié par Archaven, 10 septembre 2013 - 05:06 .

[The Antagonist]

high-res textures and a 660 is mid-range not low end

[Archaven]

codenamesource wrote...

high-res textures and a 660 is mid-range not low end

It is very low end to me.. i would not even consider it except GTX770 and above. But GTX770 is the best bang for bucks IMO.

[werewoof]

OLDIRTYBARON wrote...

Welcome to Next Gen. This current console cycle has gone on so long a lot of PC gamers have forgotten how bloody expensive the hobby is.

My guess is that by the time DA3 is released, there won't be a current day card that can handle it all. I look forward to the bleeting.

oh i haven't forgotten, there was a good $2000 wrapped up into my pc when it was built and the damn thing is still outdated now. goddang dual core augh. i've just been too poor to get a higher end one since i'm stubborn and i refuse to build a new gaming rig unless it's gonna be top of the line and capable of playing next gen games. 

[Archaven]

tiktac wrote...

OLDIRTYBARON wrote...

Welcome to Next Gen. This current console cycle has gone on so long a lot of PC gamers have forgotten how bloody expensive the hobby is.

My guess is that by the time DA3 is released, there won't be a current day card that can handle it all. I look forward to the bleeting.

oh i haven't forgotten, there was a good $2000 wrapped up into my pc when it was built and the damn thing is still outdated now. goddang dual core augh. i've just been too poor to get a higher end one since i'm stubborn and i refuse to build a new gaming rig unless it's gonna be top of the line and capable of playing next gen games. 

$2000 and dual-core? you amaze me.. this rig must be 10 years old?

[werewoof]

Archaven wrote...

tiktac wrote...

OLDIRTYBARON wrote...

Welcome to Next Gen. This current console cycle has gone on so long a lot of PC gamers have forgotten how bloody expensive the hobby is.

My guess is that by the time DA3 is released, there won't be a current day card that can handle it all. I look forward to the bleeting.

oh i haven't forgotten, there was a good $2000 wrapped up into my pc when it was built and the damn thing is still outdated now. goddang dual core augh. i've just been too poor to get a higher end one since i'm stubborn and i refuse to build a new gaming rig unless it's gonna be top of the line and capable of playing next gen games. 

$2000 and dual-core? you amaze me.. this rig must be 10 years old?

it's hard to say, my dad pieces these things together over time since its pretty rare we come by enough money to sink into a new part. i think it's a bit younger than that, 6 or 7 years maybe. long story short we fell into a rough spot financially a couple years after he built it so it should have been replaced years ago but we never could afford it. it still does pretty well for itself, though. my old pc that i had before it, though, that one was built in 2001 i wanna say? had it for 11 years before i replaced it. and i have a laptop from 1998 that still runs. the short hand is, i have a whole house full of really old computers that somehow still work.

[satunnainen]

YAY, I can achieve the minimum if I overclock just a bit...

Uhh, I guess its time to finally replace the important parts again...

[Androme]

 Well, damn boy. And I thought my PC was good.

[Ryzaki]

I've gotta i5 2500k @ 3.30 Ghz
8GB RAM
GTX 570
And 355GB free.

I only play at 1600x900 though so I'm hoping I can skirt by mostly on high settings.

Gonna need a new card soon.

*looks longingly at titan*

If only I could afford you.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 10 septembre 2013 - 07:10 .

[Ryzaki]

Still I was thinking of upgrading but I wanna wait til the 800 series is out so hopefully the 700 series'll go down in price.

I iz cheap.

[Fishy]

Those graphic memory make no sense. The 660 is 2 GB. So is the 680 GTX, 770 GTX. There's more than just memory with video card.
Also what a quad core CPU mean ? There's a good difference in performance between a Q6600 and a I7-I5 quad.

Is that official requirement or just some shmuck that pulled it out their ass ?

Modifié par Suprez30, 10 septembre 2013 - 07:19 .