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[Captain Obvious]

So, with Breaking Bad concluding in three episodes, I thought it was only fitting that it had it's own discussion thread. It's the best show on TV after all and the last five episodes have been absolutely fantastic. I'm surprised there hasn't been a discussion thread yet considering the fact that it's almost ending. 

I think I can gleam what's going to happen in the storyline's future: the police authories will find the "Confessions" CD in Hank's home and conclude that he's Heisenberg and that he was simply trying to pin everything on Walt. The Heisenberg grafitti that's in Episode 9 isn't meant to represent Walt, but represent Hank. Walt will have Uncle Jack and his neo-**** gang take Jesse as their new cook since he can't bring himself to have him killed. Why Walt disappears and disguises himself as "Mr. Lambert" is something I don't know, but it could be because the police authorities, seeing him as an accomplice to Hank's meth empire, decide to arrest him and take him in for questiong. Walt, not wanting to reveal his secret stash, decides to go to that guy that Saul suggested who's speciality is making people "disappear." At least, those are all just my predictions.

Discuss away.

[Isichar]

So far it has been amazing and I am guessing the final 3 episodes will probably be just as good. The acting is definitely the strongest I have seen in the show so far, which is saying quite a bit. The initial confrontation between Walt and Hank impressed me so much I had to go back and rewatch a couple times. Watching Jesse spiral down to rock bottem only to finally find his purpose has been handled well and watching him and Walt go head to head has really helped evolve the show as well.

The cliff hanger the episode left us off on was just cruel, I was on the edge of my seat when the credits came up.

As for predictions on how its going to end: Badly. Very very badly for everybody.

Modifié par Isichar, 10 septembre 2013 - 02:48 .

[RainyDayLover]

 It might just surpass The Shield as the greatest TV show ever.

So good.

Seriously.

[Isichar]

Breaking bad has the best "small moments" like when Skinny Pete and Badger had the Star Trek conversation or when the waiter was serving Hank, Walt, Skyler and Marie. It takes incredibly tense and dramatic moments and just throws the most random things going on around them, and then leaves without overstaying its welcome. You can't help but love this shows sense of humor.

Modifié par Isichar, 10 septembre 2013 - 03:06 .

[Addai]

There used to be a discussion thread long ago.

We've been fans since season 1. Quite interested in the conclusion, they've built it up really well. I expect Walter Junior to flip out once he realize how badly he's been duped, and he'll play a part in the big blow-up.

[MarchWaltz]

I think Hank and Gomez are going to get killed, and maybe the ****'s threaten walt to cook for em. He does, goes into hiding, and then that's when we see him with that machine gun, ready to unload on 'em.

But who knows. These "glimpse into the future episodes" are like bus time-tables:

Often highly misleading.

Modifié par MarchWaltz, 10 septembre 2013 - 04:01 .

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

Idk, Hank dying would make the cliffhanger feel so cheap. And it'll have lost all it's effect- you can't start a show with a climax. Gomey might. But if they both die Heisenberg's secret is safe, and it evidently doesn't turn out to be.

I gave a small cheer for Walt's humanity when he gave up rather than kill his brother-in-law. Or maybe tried

[Naughty Bear]

I can't wait! I liked how Walt was unwilling to kill Jesse. That right there shows that deep down, old Walt is still there, and after Hank shows up. That expression on his face. but I think he is going to turning ugly again.

Jesse still doesn't know about Jane and the plane crash.

My take on the ending is Walt will live, but with nothing left.

[GodWood]

There's an interesting fan theory I've stumbled across that seems to support something I had noticed.

Throughout the course of the series Walter has developed traits of all the people he has killed. After killing Crazy Eight he cuts off the crust of his sandwiches, after killing Gus he starts driving a Volvo and after killing Mike he starts ordering his drinks with ice. So the theory goes that since in the flash forward he arranges his bacon like Skyler and to a lesser extent dresses like Jesse the implication is he's going to kill them both.

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Naughty Bear wrote...

I can't wait! I liked how Walt was unwilling to kill Jesse. That right there shows that deep down, old Walt is still there, and after Hank shows up. That expression on his face. but I think he is going to turning ugly again.

Jesse still doesn't know about Jane and the plane crash.

My take on the ending is Walt will live, but with nothing left.

What do you mean? He was willing to kill Jesse, just not Hank.

GodWood, mind = blown. But it's really weird that he would do that, what is he megaman?

[MarchWaltz]

GodWood wrote...

There's an interesting fan theory I've stumbled across that seems to support something I had noticed.

Throughout the course of the series Walter has developed traits of all the people he has killed. After killing Crazy Eight he cuts off the crust of his sandwiches, after killing Gus he starts driving a Volvo and after killing Mike he starts ordering his drinks with ice. So the theory goes that since in the flash forward he arranges his bacon like Skyler and to a lesser extent dresses like Jesse the implication is he's going to kill them both.

Interesting. He also put a towel to cushion his knees when he was vominitng like Gus did when he was throwing up the poison.

[Naughty Bear]

fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

I can't wait! I liked how Walt was unwilling to kill Jesse. That right there shows that deep down, old Walt is still there, and after Hank shows up. That expression on his face. but I think he is going to turning ugly again.

Jesse still doesn't know about Jane and the plane crash.

My take on the ending is Walt will live, but with nothing left.

What do you mean? He was willing to kill Jesse, just not Hank.

GodWood, mind = blown. But it's really weird that he would do that, what is he megaman?

He wasn't at first, Skyler suggested killing him and so did Saul. Walter didn't react well to both of them and he only called on the hit as he feels that Jesse is now a threat, which he now is. Walt's face and reaction when he called the hit was a sad one.

When he did call on the hit, he wanted to make sure Jesse's death was a quick and painless, while it's not very nice to want to kill someone, he really wanted his death painless.

Now Jesse is becoming a pain in the arse for him, I can see that changing Walt's opinion of him, which it probably always has at the end of the latest episode.

He even said Jesse to him, was like family.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 10 septembre 2013 - 05:27 .

[Slojack]

GodWood wrote...

There's an interesting fan theory I've stumbled across that seems to support something I had noticed.

Throughout the course of the series Walter has developed traits of all the people he has killed. After killing Crazy Eight he cuts off the crust of his sandwiches, after killing Gus he starts driving a Volvo and after killing Mike he starts ordering his drinks with ice. So the theory goes that since in the flash forward he arranges his bacon like Skyler and to a lesser extent dresses like Jesse the implication is he's going to kill them both.

He bought a Chrysler 300 not a Volvo.  But somebody above pointed out the folded towel trait.

[Ophir147]

Let's talk about Hank.

Who here actually likes new Hank? I gotta be honest I was always (and still am) hoping that Walt doesn't necessarily win, but at least gets a happy ending with a chance at redemption, but I at least really liked Hank. He's an interesting character that had a lot more complexity than I had pegged him for in the first season, and Mr. Norris is doing an excellent job.

However, I feel like he's adopting Walt's strategies to the detriment of his own likability. He's shown that he can lie and play head games with the best of them, but it's coming from a place of obsession and self-righteousness, rather than the genuine good that we're familiar with. Also the way that he treats Jesse is just such a delicious contrast to the way that Walt treats him.

[MarchWaltz]

I want Walt to lose. He is now a villain in my eyes. Killing Mike, killing Mike's guys, and most of all working with white supremacists.

Also he is an egomaniac; doing really stupid **** that can get him caught (telling Hank that the person who he thought was Heisnberg was a copycat).

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

Ophir147 wrote...

Let's talk about Hank.

Who here actually likes new Hank? I gotta be honest I was always (and still am) hoping that Walt doesn't necessarily win, but at least gets a happy ending with a chance at redemption, but I at least really liked Hank. He's an interesting character that had a lot more complexity than I had pegged him for in the first season, and Mr. Norris is doing an excellent job.

However, I feel like he's adopting Walt's strategies to the detriment of his own likability. He's shown that he can lie and play head games with the best of them, but it's coming from a place of obsession and self-righteousness, rather than the genuine good that we're familiar with. Also the way that he treats Jesse is just such a delicious contrast to the way that Walt treats him.

I like how that after all he's done, Walt is still the only person who cares about Jesse apart from maybe his girlfriends. Well I don't mean I like it like it.

Hank was never that good a guy. He wasn't even nice to Walt at the beginning before any of this happened. It's kinda ironic that they bonded over Heisenberg's shenanigans and his injury. His treatment of Gomez is also questionable at times. But his absolute worst has to be how he treated Marie when he couldn't walk, there's no excuse to be that horrible. However, Iikeable or not I think his current reaction is perfectly justified.

Modifié par fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb, 11 septembre 2013 - 02:07 .

[Fishy]

MarchWaltz wrote...

I want Walt to lose. He is now a villain in my eyes. Killing Mike, killing Mike's guys, and most of all working with white supremacists.

Also he is an egomaniac; doing really stupid **** that can get him caught (telling Hank that the person who he thought was Heisnberg was a copycat).

I just see where Walt is coming from. The guy had ambition, but had to live a boring  life teaching a bunch of ungrateful teen. I see many like Walt in my neighborhood. Stuck in their perfect little boring life. Outside they show how happy they're, but inside they're empty and miserable.

Being walked all over for years and just being there. Waiting to die. he I doubt he even really cared about his life, just his family When he learned about his cancer.

When he became  Heisenberg he felt liberated from his chain for the first time in years. He was never truly bad imo. Just a desperate man with nothing else to lose. Also Mike and everyone he killed were not innocent little pup. Jesse is far from being a Martyr. He's just has lost like Walter was.

That what I think of Walt. He will probably lose because that what everyo carebears want. I hope he wins.

Modifié par Suprez30, 11 septembre 2013 - 02:12 .

[Hey]

Slojack wrote...

GodWood wrote...

There's an interesting fan theory I've stumbled across that seems to support something I had noticed.

Throughout the course of the series Walter has developed traits of all the people he has killed. After killing Crazy Eight he cuts off the crust of his sandwiches, after killing Gus he starts driving a Volvo and after killing Mike he starts ordering his drinks with ice. So the theory goes that since in the flash forward he arranges his bacon like Skyler and to a lesser extent dresses like Jesse the implication is he's going to kill them both.

He bought a Chrysler 300 not a Volvo.  But somebody above pointed out the folded towel trait.

the flash forward at the denny's was a volvo i believe. either way that was an evil way to end the last episode

[GodWood]

Slojack wrote...
He bought a Chrysler 300 not a Volvo. But somebody above pointed out the folded towel trait.

My mistake.

Checked the actual fan-theory online and it says he was seen driving a Volvo at the beginning of season 5 (not that he bought one). The towel thing works too I guess although Walt never saw Gus do that.

MarchWaltz wrote...
I want Walt to lose. He is now a villain in my eyes. Killing Mike, killing Mike's guys, and most of all working with white supremacists.

Also he is an egomaniac; doing really stupid **** that can get him caught.

I still think he's too soft hearted and sympathetic. I was hoping he'd be a completely cold, ruthless drug-lord by now.

Modifié par GodWood, 11 septembre 2013 - 05:56 .

[RedJohn]

Guys, Hank told his wife that he loves her.

That's a death sentence right there.

[MarchWaltz]

RedJohn wrote...

Guys, Hank told his wife that he loves her.

That's a death sentence right there.

That's what my sis thinks as well.

Also, Marie said something about shell-fish poison...so maybe marie takes Walt in the end or tries to and accidently kills her sister.

[Ophir147]

RedJohn, MarchWaltz, you two guys are just guys. OK? Vince Gilligan – he's the creator. He is smarter than you, he is luckier than you. Whatever you think is supposed to happen, I'm telling you, the exact, reverse opposite of that is going to happen.

[RedJohn]

Ophir147 wrote...

RedJohn, MarchWaltz, you two guys are just guys. OK? Vince Gilligan – he's the creator. He is smarter than you, he is luckier than you. Whatever you think is supposed to happen, I'm telling you, the exact, reverse opposite of that is going to happen.

I hope you are right, because if Hank dies it would be cliché and too predictable.

[MarchWaltz]

Ophir147 wrote...

RedJohn, MarchWaltz, you two guys are just guys. OK? Vince Gilligan – he's the creator. He is smarter than you, he is luckier than you. Whatever you think is supposed to happen, I'm telling you, the exact, reverse opposite of that is going to happen.

It's called a DISCUSSION for a reason. We share theories. 

But thanks for pointing it out. I was not sure I created the show or not - now I can go to sleep peacefully. Also, define "smarter". Do you know me? Do you know my IQ? My life experiences? Do yoiu know the creator's IQ?

Modifié par MarchWaltz, 11 septembre 2013 - 05:26 .

[Naughty Bear]

This game doesn't seem to be jumpy or scary. The odd wobbly room, dreams, some red gooey stuff on a door.

I'm disappointed, where is the monster?