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[Former_Fiend]

So, in the comics it's revealed that the Therin bloodline has some mystical properties that are of interest to Flemeth, or at least one of her daughters(not Morrigan), as well as some Tevinter magisters. 

Alistair's the central figure in the comics storyline, but in the games there's a fairly decent chance he's dead, either having been executed by Anora or sacrificing himself to kill the archdemon. By no means a guarentee, of course, but still possible.

So what I'm curious about is if Alistair being dead means this storyline is just going to be a non starter in any canon without him, or if there's someone else out there who could fill his role in it.

Which brings me to Fiona. In the novel The Calling, Fiona has a child by Maric who's assumed by most to be Alistair. That never quite added up to me, though. Lot of logistical holes in that story, plus some timeline issues(though if I recall correctly, Gaider claied that The Calling had some timeline issues in general).

So, does this leave the possibility of Fiona's son and Alistair being separate characters, giving Bioware an out if Alistair dies?

[Heimdall]

Gaider confirmed that Alistair's birth date matches up with the Calling's event. It would seem there are only two and Alistair is likely Fiona's child.

[Daerog]

I support the third Theirin theory, but with Gaider correcting the timeline, I'm just going to think that Alistair is that crazy elf's son.

[cjones91]

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

I support the third Theirin theory, but with Gaider correcting the timeline, I'm just going to think that Alistair is that crazy elf's son.

Fiona isn't crazy.

[Taleroth]

His storyline is over. Whatever they wanted, they could have got from Maric and now they've hopefully moved on. Or found anyone else.

The last thing the franchise needs is turning characters from Origins into major plot points and messiahs. The comics can get away with it, I guess, but not the games.

Besides, everyone knows that Anders is the third brother. Like duh.

Modifié par Taleroth, 10 septembre 2013 - 04:02 .

[Zombie_Alexis]

Fiona is still alive right? Because *SPOILER* in Until We Sleep, King Maric tells Alistair that his mother and Cailan are in the Fade with him, which I assumed meant she was dead. I could have read into that wrong though.

[Maria Caliban]

Maric isn't an expert at keeping it in his trou. I wouldn't be surprised if he has more sons that we don't know about. Maybe even a daughter or two.

[Former_Fiend]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Gaider confirmed that Alistair's birth date matches up with the Calling's event. It would seem there are only two and Alistair is likely Fiona's child.

Well, Alistair officially has my pity.

[cjones91]

Former_Fiend wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Gaider confirmed that Alistair's birth date matches up with the Calling's event. It would seem there are only two and Alistair is likely Fiona's child.

Well, Alistair officially has my pity.

I've always wondered how Alistiar would have reacted if he met Fiona and learned he had been lied to his entire life.Duncan was Fiona's best friend and he likely knew Alistair was her son so he was in on the lie as well.

[cjones91]

Zombie_Alexis wrote...

Fiona is still alive right? Because *SPOILER* in Until We Sleep, King Maric tells Alistair that his mother and Cailan are in the Fade with him, which I assumed meant she was dead. I could have read into that wrong though.

Fiona is alive and leading the Mage Rebellion,also Marric may have kept the lie going since he promised not to tell Alistair that Fiona is possibly his real mother.

[Former_Fiend]

cjones91 wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Gaider confirmed that Alistair's birth date matches up with the Calling's event. It would seem there are only two and Alistair is likely Fiona's child.

Well, Alistair officially has my pity.

I've always wondered how Alistiar would have reacted if he met Fiona and learned he had been lied to his entire life.Duncan was Fiona's best friend and he likely knew Alistair was her son so he was in on the lie as well.

Don't mistake me, I don't pity him for being lied to about who his mother is. I pity him for Fiona being his mother.

There is no character in the whole of Dragon Age lore that I dislike more than Fiona.

[cjones91]

Former_Fiend wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Gaider confirmed that Alistair's birth date matches up with the Calling's event. It would seem there are only two and Alistair is likely Fiona's child.

Well, Alistair officially has my pity.

I've always wondered how Alistiar would have reacted if he met Fiona and learned he had been lied to his entire life.Duncan was Fiona's best friend and he likely knew Alistair was her son so he was in on the lie as well.

Don't mistake me, I don't pity him for being lied to about who his mother is. I pity him for Fiona being his mother.

There is no character in the whole of Dragon Age lore that I dislike more than Fiona.

What is there to dislike about Fiona?Sure she may be pushy at times but considering her upbringing I don't blame her for being agressive towards people.

[Former_Fiend]

cjones91 wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Gaider confirmed that Alistair's birth date matches up with the Calling's event. It would seem there are only two and Alistair is likely Fiona's child.

Well, Alistair officially has my pity.

I've always wondered how Alistiar would have reacted if he met Fiona and learned he had been lied to his entire life.Duncan was Fiona's best friend and he likely knew Alistair was her son so he was in on the lie as well.

Don't mistake me, I don't pity him for being lied to about who his mother is. I pity him for Fiona being his mother.

There is no character in the whole of Dragon Age lore that I dislike more than Fiona.

What is there to dislike about Fiona?Sure she may be pushy at times but considering her upbringing I don't blame her for being agressive towards people.

Beyond the fact that her personality was more obnoxious, abrassive and annoying that Jack on a bad day, I dislike her on a meta level. Her backstory is too clearly manufactured to generate sympathy and excuse her behavior and her "romance" with Maric was forced and unbelivable. And speaking of unbelievable, she's apparently Grand Enchanter, now. How the hell did that happen?

[cjones91]

Former_Fiend wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Gaider confirmed that Alistair's birth date matches up with the Calling's event. It would seem there are only two and Alistair is likely Fiona's child.

Well, Alistair officially has my pity.

I've always wondered how Alistiar would have reacted if he met Fiona and learned he had been lied to his entire life.Duncan was Fiona's best friend and he likely knew Alistair was her son so he was in on the lie as well.

Don't mistake me, I don't pity him for being lied to about who his mother is. I pity him for Fiona being his mother.

There is no character in the whole of Dragon Age lore that I dislike more than Fiona.

What is there to dislike about Fiona?Sure she may be pushy at times but considering her upbringing I don't blame her for being agressive towards people.

Beyond the fact that her personality was more obnoxious, abrassive and annoying that Jack on a bad day, I dislike her on a meta level. Her backstory is too clearly manufactured to generate sympathy and excuse her behavior and her "romance" with Maric was forced and unbelivable. And speaking of unbelievable, she's apparently Grand Enchanter, now. How the hell did that happen?
Considering how she was a sex slave and raped for years until her early teens,and then locked up in the Circle until being recruited into the Grey Wardens is it any wonder Fiona was like Jack on steriods?As for her being Grand Enchanter I imagine her time as a Warden had something to do with it.

[Former_Fiend]

I also find the apparent idea of someone who's issues are caused by sexual abuse having those issues healed by having sex with the hero to be...well, I'm sure that wasn't the intent, but it's really off putting.

[Eveangaline]

The king probably had bastards all over town.

[Milan92]

This actually could have been a very interesting plot twist for DA I if we still had the "only human" protagonist thing. Somewhere in the game it becomes revealed that your the last bastard of Maric. As long as they hid the gender, his last bastard could be male or female.

I'm sure not everyone would like this idea, but I'd say it would be interesting.

[Magdalena11]

Because of the existence of Goldana I don't think Fiona is Alistair's mother. Yes, there might be a 3rd son of Maric. Did he ever zip up his fly?

[yummysoap]

Former_Fiend wrote...

I also find the apparent idea of someone who's issues are caused by sexual abuse having those issues healed by having sex with the hero to be...well, I'm sure that wasn't the intent, but it's really off putting.

Yeah it's a pretty tired and distasteful trope. The way that Fiona was constructed as the antithesis of human nobility and their perversions and how that bias was written to be proven wrong my Maric the hero could have been handled much, much better and in a much less obvious way.

[Former_Fiend]

Magdalena11 wrote...

Because of the existence of Goldana I don't think Fiona is Alistair's mother. Yes, there might be a 3rd son of Maric. Did he ever zip up his fly?

Yea, that's one of the reasons I don't by the Fiona as Alistair's mom. The whole story doesn't make sense as a cover.

Add to that that Loghain says that Queen Rowan was still alive when Alistair was born- despite being years dead in the novel. Doesn't make sense.

[Gorguz]

I use to think that alistair was one of three sons. Then Gaider said that Alistair was born in the year of The Calling. Now in the comics it is wrote that Alistair mother is death.
There is too much confusion to take a side, we have to wait.

[Fetunche]

Maybe Cullens the third brother, that's why he keeps popping up and was able to resist the abominations in the circle tower because if his dragon blood.

[Rolling Flame]

Eveangaline wrote...

The king probably had bastards all over town.

It sure seems that way, if Goldanna's mother is anything to go by.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Maric isn't an expert at keeping it in his trou. I wouldn't be surprised if he has more sons that we don't know about. Maybe even a daughter or two.

Anora said that Cailan 'had his women' as well, so...yeah.

[Xsari Rose]

Woah, I've never read The Calling and have just seen this thread. The idea that this Fiona character being Alistair's real mother is completely ridiculous. He doesn't look elven in the slightest. I thought human-elf children were human height but had elven features. Like Feynriel, he clearly has elven features. People just think he's ugly and badly designed, it's because of the mix of elf and human designs. There is a third half-elf son. Just Gaider really messed up the timeline in his books which is real shame as I was considering reading them. Won't touch them now, just going to stick to the story of the games.