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[Former_Fiend]

leaguer of one wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Cap. Obvious wrote...

Aren't the comics non-canon?

No, the events change to line up with was you did in your game. 

The main issue is that, in the event of Alistair's death in Origins, I don't imagine the events of the comics would play out at all being that he is the driving force behind them.

This is partly why I think there should be a third sibling(I've been saying brother as Fiona's child is explicitly a boy). They're clearly going somewhere with this dragonblood story in the comics, but with Alistair dead the plot dies.

Then again, could be that I'm wrong and it may play out like I'm hoping the dark ritual does; if you did it, it turns out to be a big deal. If you didn't, then nothing happens.

There plenty of ways around it. If Alistar is dead then Loghain is the one rescuing Maric.

Now that would be interesting- and a comic I'd much rather read. But it still ends with the same issue; one assumes that regardless of who went through it, the end result is Maric will, spoiler alert, die at the end. And with Maric and Alistair both dead, the dragon blood plotline dies with them.

Of course, maybe it's meant to. They do seem to be going in more of a direction where they're more open to making content that some people just aren't going to see because of the decisions they made. 

[Taleroth]

Former_Fiend wrote...

Now that would be interesting- and a comic I'd much rather read. But it still ends with the same issue; one assumes that regardless of who went through it, the end result is Maric will, spoiler alert, die at the end. And with Maric and Alistair both dead, the dragon blood plotline dies with them.

That's not an "issue." The dragon blood plot is one for the comics, not the games.

Hopefully the games will never have to deal with it.

[Former_Fiend]

Taleroth wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

Now that would be interesting- and a comic I'd much rather read. But it still ends with the same issue; one assumes that regardless of who went through it, the end result is Maric will, spoiler alert, die at the end. And with Maric and Alistair both dead, the dragon blood plotline dies with them.

That's not an "issue." The dragon blood plot is one for the comics, not the games.

Hopefully the games will never have to deal with it.

You're more optimistic than I am. I've been assuming- hot hoping, mind you, just assuming- that the comics were building up to this plotline manifesting in someway in the games.

[leaguer of one]

Former_Fiend wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Cap. Obvious wrote...

Aren't the comics non-canon?

No, the events change to line up with was you did in your game. 

The main issue is that, in the event of Alistair's death in Origins, I don't imagine the events of the comics would play out at all being that he is the driving force behind them.

This is partly why I think there should be a third sibling(I've been saying brother as Fiona's child is explicitly a boy). They're clearly going somewhere with this dragonblood story in the comics, but with Alistair dead the plot dies.

Then again, could be that I'm wrong and it may play out like I'm hoping the dark ritual does; if you did it, it turns out to be a big deal. If you didn't, then nothing happens.

There plenty of ways around it. If Alistar is dead then Loghain is the one rescuing Maric.

Now that would be interesting- and a comic I'd much rather read. But it still ends with the same issue; one assumes that regardless of who went through it, the end result is Maric will, spoiler alert, die at the end. And with Maric and Alistair both dead, the dragon blood plotline dies with them.

Of course, maybe it's meant to. They do seem to be going in more of a direction where they're more open to making content that some people just aren't going to see because of the decisions they made. 

Think of it like the god baby plot.

[AresKeith]

Taleroth wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

Now that would be interesting- and a comic I'd much rather read. But it still ends with the same issue; one assumes that regardless of who went through it, the end result is Maric will, spoiler alert, die at the end. And with Maric and Alistair both dead, the dragon blood plotline dies with them.

That's not an "issue." The dragon blood plot is one for the comics, not the games.

Hopefully the games will never have to deal with it.

That's assuming Dragon Blood is only in the Therin bloodline

[Taleroth]

Former_Fiend wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

Now that would be interesting- and a comic I'd much rather read. But it still ends with the same issue; one assumes that regardless of who went through it, the end result is Maric will, spoiler alert, die at the end. And with Maric and Alistair both dead, the dragon blood plotline dies with them.

That's not an "issue." The dragon blood plot is one for the comics, not the games.

Hopefully the games will never have to deal with it.

You're more optimistic than I am. I've been assuming- hot hoping, mind you, just assuming- that the comics were building up to this plotline manifesting in someway in the games.

That's a scary thought. DA:I is a chance to show that Fereldan isn't the center of Thedas.

The comics kind of dispute that, but I like to think it's just because they focus on a Fereldan character.

[Heimdall]

Taleroth wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...
Now that would be interesting- and a comic I'd much rather read. But it still ends with the same issue; one assumes that regardless of who went through it, the end result is Maric will, spoiler alert, die at the end. And with Maric and Alistair both dead, the dragon blood plotline dies with them.

That's not an "issue." The dragon blood plot is one for the comics, not the games.

Hopefully the games will never have to deal with it.

You're more optimistic than I am. I've been assuming- hot hoping, mind you, just assuming- that the comics were building up to this plotline manifesting in someway in the games.

That's a scary thought. DA:I is a chance to show that Fereldan isn't the center of Thedas.

The comics kind of dispute that, but I like to think it's just because they focus on a Fereldan character.

As someone who is not a fan of the dragon blood plotline:

Is it possible that Flemeth or some such giving Dragon blood to the future Inquisitor would be the reason for their survival of the Fade tear?  And perhaps for whatever specialness leads to their appointment at the head of the Inquisition?  I'm sure they wouldn't want to turn everyone into a Reaver, but they could probably write their way out of that.

[brushyourteeth]

Great topic.

I think it makes sense for there to be a third brother, given that Cailan is dead and Alistair might be (depending on your choices) and the Theirin bloodline seems to be pretty important in some grander scheme of things.

Hope he looks just like Cailan/Alistair if he exists. The books and comics seemed to suggest to me that Calenhad's male descendants all look remarkably like him.

[Angrywolves]

Most of us don't read the comics and books.
I hope there isn't another brother.

[Heimdall]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Great topic.

I think it makes sense for there to be a third brother, given that Cailan is dead and Alistair might be (depending on your choices) and the Theirin bloodline seems to be pretty important in some grander scheme of things.

That's the concerning part.

[Nethalf]

One word: Cullen.
He's pretty enough, he's young enough, he's dumb enough, he got lots of fans... Perfect Theirin, I'll give him that.

Modifié par Nethalf, 14 septembre 2013 - 03:35 .

[Former_Fiend]

Nethalf wrote...

One word: Cullen.
He's pretty enough, he's young enough, he's dumb enough, he got lots of fans... Perfect Theirin, I'll give him that.

He'd actually be my guess. I think pulling a wholely new character out of their asses wouldn't play well, if they decided to go the third Therin route. Cullen's got the right look and is one of the few characters to play a fairly important role in both games, so it wouldn't be surprising for them to give him a bigger role down the line.

[KC_Prototype]

Who is Fiona?

[Snook]

KC_Prototype wrote...

Who is Fiona?

A spunky elven lady who Maric knocked up.

Also Grand Enchanter.

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 14 septembre 2013 - 09:52 .

[Illyria]

KC_Prototype wrote...

Who is Fiona?

Fiona is an elven mage Grey Warden.  She had a very brief relationship with Maric that resulted in a son.  This son is possibly Alistair (as the birth years match up) or an unseen third Theirin brother.

[AllThatJazz]

Former_Fiend wrote...

Nethalf wrote...

One word: Cullen.
He's pretty enough, he's young enough, he's dumb enough, he got lots of fans... Perfect Theirin, I'll give him that.

He'd actually be my guess. I think pulling a wholely new character out of their asses wouldn't play well, if they decided to go the third Therin route. Cullen's got the right look and is one of the few characters to play a fairly important role in both games, so it wouldn't be surprising for them to give him a bigger role down the line.

I like this idea. It would probably be quite traumatising for Cullen to find out his mum is a mage ... 

Modifié par AllThatJazz, 14 septembre 2013 - 10:26 .

[Karlone123]

There could have been a third Therin that did actually die in childbirth at Redcliffe but just used that story for Alistair ro cover-up his royal heritage.

Edit: Or even a third son of Maric comes in to replace Alistair if he's dead.

Modifié par Karlone123, 14 septembre 2013 - 11:09 .

[Cyanide Disaster]

I am pretty sure that Fiona is Alistair's mother. It was heavily implied in The Calling and then heavily implied by David Gaider (you know, the leader writer? ), which also makes sense as to why Alistair has an interest in magical runes and why he took to his Templar training so well (As Templars use a sort of magic).

However, if there IS a third Therin that would be pretty cool too.

I didn't dislike Fiona, I actually disliked Maric more. He slept with EVERY elf in EVERY book, and it's like "seriously bro? Your betrothed is described as a beautiful woman and all these other positive things I can't remember." He irked me for those reasons. You're the freaking KING of Ferelden, keep it in your pants!

[K_Tabris]

Former_Fiend wrote...

Nethalf wrote...

One word: Cullen.
He's pretty enough, he's young enough, he's dumb enough, he got lots of fans... Perfect Theirin, I'll give him that.

He'd actually be my guess. I think pulling a wholely new character out of their asses wouldn't play well, if they decided to go the third Therin route. Cullen's got the right look and is one of the few characters to play a fairly important role in both games, so it wouldn't be surprising for them to give him a bigger role down the line.

idk... Cullen being a Theirin seems so...convenient.

[smr54]

Supposedly the Therin bloodline and the Cousland bloodlines have comingled, via Calenhad and Teryna Elthea Cousland (producing a Therin/Cousland child, obviously), meaning that there is now Dragon blood in both Houses.

I also believe there is a possibility of a third child via Maric, not necessarily another son, possibly even a mage that has been stashed away somewhere. The 2nd child with Fiona,  and could be a previously known character, maybe having more of Fionas looks than Maric's. Evidentially, the Dragon blood  is going to play an important part in DAI, and or in future games.

[Heimdall]

Supposedly the Therin bloodline and the Cousland bloodline have comingled, via Calenhad and Teryna Elthea Cousland, meaning Dragon blood in both Houses.
And I do believe there is a possibility of a third child via Maric, not necessarily another son, possibly even a mage that has been stashed away somewhere. Possibly the 2nd child with Fiona.

Fiona's child is Alistair, more or less confirmed by Laidlaw mentioning that he is elf blooded and Gaider correcting the timeline so the events of Asunder occur in the year of Alistair's birth.

Also, most people don't like thread necromancy around here. The last post in this thread was over a year ago.

[Kantr]

I wondered why people were ignoring Word of Gaider that Alistair is Fiona's son.

 

Now whether Fiona is alive in DA:I depends on who was at the temple.

 

The mods really should issue 1 day bans for necro'ing threads (and then lock said thread)

[N7KnightSabre]

Fiona's child is Alistair, more or less confirmed by Laidlaw mentioning that he is elf blooded and Gaider correcting the timeline so the events of Asunder occur in the year of Alistair's birth.

Also, most people don't like thread necromancy around here. The last post in this thread was over a year ago.

 

Was finding this thread fascinating until I learned it was so old. 

[kimgoold]

It's good to be the King. People seriously haven't any of you heard that they did whatever they liked? Not concerned who is third Theirin but in first game a rumour you hear at the inn/tavern implies that Marics real son is a mage and is being kept hidden.

[Br3admax]

Completely ignoring the fact this thread is a year+ old, the entire Dryden family is probably related to the Therin bloodline.