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[DarkKnightHolmes]

God, I actually wish Bioware went with this storyline instead of having Alistair be Fiona's child. I'll never let an Orlesian sit the Ferelden throne.

[Medhia_Nox]

Doesn't matter to me - I talked Alistair into dying heroically so I could get him out of the way after he killed Loghain - so I could take the throne with Anora... and, after having a natural Cousland child to Morrigan... take the throne FROM Anora.

 

Screw the Therin whatever it is. The Couslands dynasty rules Ferelden now.... in my head.

[thesuperdarkone2]

The devs confirmed that Alistair is elf-blooded. He IS Fiona's son. Why people still bother arguing about it is beyond me. Besides, I think an interview with Gaider said that Alistair's parents would be brought up.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I've always wondered how Alistiar would have reacted if he met Fiona and learned he had been lied to his entire life.Duncan was Fiona's best friend and he likely knew Alistair was her son so he was in on the lie as well.

Well, with both Alistair(if alive) and Fiona showing up in Inquisition, we may get to see it. 

After all, Gaider said in an interview that this plot line will be handled in DAI after confirming their relationship as mother and son. 

[TEWR]

So, in the comics it's revealed that the Therin bloodline has some mystical properties that are of interest to Flemeth, or at least one of her daughters(not Morrigan), as well as some Tevinter magisters. 

Alistair's the central figure in the comics storyline, but in the games there's a fairly decent chance he's dead, either having been executed by Anora or sacrificing himself to kill the archdemon. By no means a guarentee, of course, but still possible.

So what I'm curious about is if Alistair being dead means this storyline is just going to be a non starter in any canon without him, or if there's someone else out there who could fill his role in it.

Which brings me to Fiona. In the novel The Calling, Fiona has a child by Maric who's assumed by most to be Alistair. That never quite added up to me, though. Lot of logistical holes in that story, plus some timeline issues(though if I recall correctly, Gaider claied that The Calling had some timeline issues in general).

So, does this leave the possibility of Fiona's son and Alistair being separate characters, giving Bioware an out if Alistair dies?

 

Well, they've since stated Alistair is Fiona's (which for all the implications we got suggesting it, we also got things that contradicted it so ****** hell who knows anymore) but I recall Gaider also saying at one point Alistair was the only known bastard child of Maric's.

 

Which has its own implications.

[TheCreeper]

Isn't there a theory (due to Alistair's father and Flemeth spending a large amount of time alone together) that Morrigan is technically Alistair's Half-Sister (further enhancing the Parallels between her and Morgan Le Fay, not to mention general Arthurian legend). Gaider said that was creepy but he never denied it.

[Yggdrasil]

It's probably been said, but the devs have confirmed Fiona as Alistair's mother.  She said in The Calling that elf-human children look human.  (I think Feynriel was a design mistake.)  I never felt that strongly about her character one way or the other, but I have to admit at how much vitriol she inspires in some fans.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 

I wondered why people were ignoring Word of Gaider that Alistair is Fiona's son.

 

Now whether Fiona is alive in DA:I depends on who was at the temple.

 

The mods really should issue 1 day bans for necro'ing threads (and then lock said thread)

According to one of Ashe's videos, she is alive and in DAI. 

[Kantr]

Thanks for the spoiler

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Thanks for the spoiler

Sorry.

Though I'm curious:

If you knew they were related, how did you not know it would come up in Inquisition? Gaider said both these things within a minute of each other. 

[Kantr]

1. I might have forgot

 

2. I thought maybe she was in with the big blast. Though it's only minor spoilers. Ah well *shrugs*

[dantares83]

Alistair's is Fiona's son, period. The Goldanna thingy is either a slight retcon (and NOT A PLOTHOLE) or a smoke-bomb all along. Fiona's only request to Maric is to not let her son knows of his elvish parentage and Maric could have the servant woman to pose as the mother for a fee or something. This will make Alistair able to claim heritage to the throne (in future in case Cailan dies) and yet have a human woman as a mother.

 

the plot still stands regardless of Goldanna. I mean there are some confusion with the timeline and thingy but author do make mistakes like this especially if the world is super big and takes years for the series to complete. I mean JK Rowling herself had make quite a few timeline errors so it is not uncommon.

Modifié par dantares83, 07 novembre 2014 - 05:42 .

[The Night Haunter]

I sense necromancers about...

[Former_Fiend]

 

 

According to one of Ashe's videos, she is alive and in DAI. 

 

 

I will take solace in the knowledge that this means there's a possibility, no matter how small, that I will get murder her with my own hands.

[Tevinter Soldier]

on a related note, Am i the only one who doesn't hesitant to turn alistair into a drunk?

 

"i'm the prince of fereldon" -greatest cameo ever.

[Nerevar-as]

why?

[Former_Fiend]

why?

 

You're going to need to be more specific.

[Itkovian]

I am still going with the simplest solution here: Marric was a dog that slept around and we have no idea who many bastards, he actually have.

 

We prefer "man of the world", thank you.

[PhroXenGold]

Isn't there a theory (due to Alistair's father and Flemeth spending a large amount of time alone together) that Morrigan is technically Alistair's Half-Sister (further enhancing the Parallels between her and Morgan Le Fay, not to mention general Arthurian legend). Gaider said that was creepy but he never denied it.

 

I've long wondered about that. It would seem to fit very well.

[New Kid]

on a related note, Am i the only one who doesn't hesitant to turn alistair into a drunk?

 

"i'm the prince of fereldon" -greatest cameo ever.

I love drunk Alistair haha, I have my second world-state lined up with him as a drunkard. Looking forward to seeing if he appears in DA:I!

[Ghostjs]

Isn't there a theory (due to Alistair's father and Flemeth spending a large amount of time alone together) that Morrigan is technically Alistair's Half-Sister (further enhancing the Parallels between her and Morgan Le Fay, not to mention general Arthurian legend). Gaider said that was creepy but he never denied it.

 

If that is true maybe it was a mistake of mine to have Alistair perform the Dark Ritual.   Inbred Old God Baby.

[PhroXenGold]

If that is true maybe it was a mistake of mine to have Alistair perform the Dark Ritual.   Inbred Old God Baby.

 

Mistake? How can wincest ever be a mistake?

 

(on a more serious note, the chances of a child suffering problems due to inbreeding after a single generation of brother/sister incest, let along half-siblings, is very small. It's only when it occurs over succesive generations that you get the Habsburgs...)

[Itkovian]

I didn't dislike Fiona, I actually disliked Maric more. He slept with EVERY elf in EVERY book, and it's like "seriously bro? Your betrothed is described as a beautiful woman and all these other positive things I can't remember." He irked me for those reasons. You're the freaking KING of Ferelden, keep it in your pants!

 

To be fair, there is a strong tradition of kings having a remarkable collection of mistresses and concubines throughout history.