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[Steelcan]

Master Warder Z wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...
That doesn't make the threat of them any less though; Your centralizing Magical Power in a singular spot.

I can see vast swarms of Mages getting corrupted espeically during wartime, Esepcially within the Imperium where Blood Magic is supported and expected.

That's not much of a solution, No the Qunari will have to be beaten back by Steel and blood just like the last time.

Right, because the last time the qunari were beaten back it solved all the problems....

It made them shut up and get out of Ravian and Antiva.

It isn't a perfect solution but its preferable to hundreds of abominations running wild.

Synthesis it is.

There will be no mage/templar conflict when everyone is a mage

[Ryzaki]

AresKeith wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

@Steelcan: Pfft LOL.

Considering the mages at Kirkwall's tactics (Let's ignore the funnel guys!) I'm not sure even hand delivered guns and cannons could save them.

That scene was terrible

It was good for a facepalm though.

And those are the people Anders thinks have a decent chance at a war. HA. HAHAHAHAHA.

[Ryzaki]

Steelcan wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...
That doesn't make the threat of them any less though; Your centralizing Magical Power in a singular spot.

I can see vast swarms of Mages getting corrupted espeically during wartime, Esepcially within the Imperium where Blood Magic is supported and expected.

That's not much of a solution, No the Qunari will have to be beaten back by Steel and blood just like the last time.

Right, because the last time the qunari were beaten back it solved all the problems....

It made them shut up and get out of Ravian and Antiva.

It isn't a perfect solution but its preferable to hundreds of abominations running wild.

Synthesis it is.

There will be no mage/templar conflict when everyone is a mage

Don't even joke about this steel.

Though in such a scenario I suppose OGB would end up being starbrat.

[Mr.House]

Ryzaki wrote...

@Steelcan: Pfft LOL.

Considering the mages at Kirkwall's tactics (Let's ignore the funnel guys!) I'm not sure even hand delivered guns and cannons could save them.

I can't ignore the funnel guys.

[Steelcan]

Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...
That doesn't make the threat of them any less though; Your centralizing Magical Power in a singular spot.

I can see vast swarms of Mages getting corrupted espeically during wartime, Esepcially within the Imperium where Blood Magic is supported and expected.

That's not much of a solution, No the Qunari will have to be beaten back by Steel and blood just like the last time.

Right, because the last time the qunari were beaten back it solved all the problems....

It made them shut up and get out of Ravian and Antiva.

It isn't a perfect solution but its preferable to hundreds of abominations running wild.

Synthesis it is.

There will be no mage/templar conflict when everyone is a mage

Don't even joke about this steel.

Though in such a scenario I suppose OGB would end up being starbrat.

And the other choices are, Control magic, and Destroy magic...

[Mr.House]

Ryzaki wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

@Steelcan: Pfft LOL.

Considering the mages at Kirkwall's tactics (Let's ignore the funnel guys!) I'm not sure even hand delivered guns and cannons could save them.

That scene was terrible

It was good for a facepalm though.

And those are the people Anders thinks have a decent chance at a war. HA. HAHAHAHAHA.

Nah, those where the people Anders said he was saving. Anders is such a great leader.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Lord Raijin wrote...

The Circle would work great if the Chantry wasn't running the show. Instead of it being used to imprison the mages it should be used as a college to help young mages to control their power and to use it a responsible way. Allow the mages to return back to their families once they've became stabilized.

lol how chantry is corrupted and you think that others aren't who you will give control orlais , ferelden or other country? At best it will make mages little very little better than before or maybe Inquisition and how long it will take to inquisiton to get corrupted. It is mages are screwd or non-mages are screwd scenario if you will get non-mages power above them they will abuse that because there is no reason why they should care about mages and will show mages as dangerous animals then peoples will fear them because they don't know them , if you allow mages rule themselves they will start abuse non-mages as well because they are different and weaker.So stronger will prevail so mages could be happy or non-mages (well not be naive that more will be happy non-nobles are fu*** in societes as well).

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 11 septembre 2013 - 07:20 .

[Ryzaki]

Steelcan wrote...
And the other choices are, Control magic, and Destroy magic...

D: 

stopp ittttt. :crying:I don't need another game series ruined for me T_T

Though what? Destroy kills all the elves too *preferably just the dalish*? I might pick it if it does that...

Mr.House wrote...
Nah, those where the people Anders said he was saving. Anders is such a great leader.

Oh of course. They certainly did well in the templar ending.

[Steelcan]

....what if everyone thinks the templars will smash the mages, but the mages pull a geth and wage a massive campaign of extermination against the Chantry...

[Steelcan]

Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
And the other choices are, Control magic, and Destroy magic...

D: 

stopp ittttt. :crying:I don't need another game series ruined for me T_T

Though what? Destroy kills all the elves too *preferably just the dalish*? I might pick it if it does that...

There's also a refuse option that just puts everything back to "normal"

[AresKeith]

Mr.House wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

@Steelcan: Pfft LOL.

Considering the mages at Kirkwall's tactics (Let's ignore the funnel guys!) I'm not sure even hand delivered guns and cannons could save them.

That scene was terrible

It was good for a facepalm though.

And those are the people Anders thinks have a decent chance at a war. HA. HAHAHAHAHA.

Nah, those where the people Anders said he was saving. Anders is such a great leader.

He sure got alot of them killed lol

[Ryzaki]

Steelcan wrote...

....what if everyone thinks the templars will smash the mages, but the mages pull a geth and wage a massive campaign of extermination against the Chantry...

The geth are smarter than the mages though. Not that that's saying much.

Steelcan wrote...
There's also a refuse option that just puts everything back to "normal"

At the cost of everyone dying right? 

[TheKomandorShepard]

Steelcan wrote...

....what if everyone thinks the templars will smash the mages, but the mages pull a geth and wage a massive campaign of extermination against the Chantry...

Doubt that mages are weak despite how devs try tell us otherwise and now we have guys who were trained to fight with them and turn off their magic , next we have that templars are heroes (not rly) but most societes see them as one so some may help templars and well most peoples would gladly burn mages screaming that is maker will and next is that templars outnumber mages and are better organized.

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 11 septembre 2013 - 07:29 .

[Master Warder Z_]

Steelcan wrote...

....what if everyone thinks the templars will smash the mages, but the mages pull a geth and wage a massive campaign of extermination against the Chantry...

For the first time since the last exalted March steelcan the Templars have prepared for FULL mobilization, You have nearly every Knight Commander swearing allegiance to Lambert's banner and breaking their oath to the Chantry.
You have something that has not seen in centuries, Not a single detachment, or chapter but EVERY chapter, And Every Nation within Thedas even the Imperium has Templars.
You likely have the Templar War machine which is far better equipped, organized and trained then their mage counterparts outnumbering them as well.

You will have thousands if not tens of thousands of Templar under a single flag for the first time since the founding of the chantry.

Its going to be a good war i hope.

[Steelcan]

There is no humor on this forum

[Steelcan]

Master Warder Z wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

....what if everyone thinks the templars will smash the mages, but the mages pull a geth and wage a massive campaign of extermination against the Chantry...

For the first time since the last exalted March steelcan the Templars have prepared for FULL mobilization, You have nearly every Knight Commander swearing allegiance to Lambert's banner and breaking their oath to the Chantry.
You have something that has not seen in centuries, Not a single detachment, or chapter but EVERY chapter, And Every Nation within Thedas even the Imperium has Templars.
You likely have the Templar War machine which is far better equipped, organized and trained then their mage counterparts outnumbering them as well.

You will have thousands if not tens of thousands of Templar under a single flag for the first time since the founding of the chantry.

Its going to be a good war i hope.

Red templars might screw that up a bit

Also Tevinter's templars have absolutely no reason to rise up, nor will they "The Chantry has lost control of every circle outside of Tevinter"

Modifié par Steelcan, 11 septembre 2013 - 07:33 .

[Steelcan]

Ryzaki wrote...

At the cost of everyone dying right? 

At the cost of sanity and logic of course

[LobselVith8]

TK514 wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

True. In the spirit of speculation, I think templars, mages, and Seekers should be optional allies. I don't think players should be forced to side with a faction they oppose.

I haven't seen a post of yours in a while.  Good to see you again.


I was under the impression that, with Cassandra joining the Inquisitor, the Seeker organization would be rolled into the Inquisition.  That may be a false assumption based on one spotlight member's action, I don't know, but it's been my understanding thus far.

Good to see you, too.

I wonder how they'll react to following the leadership of an elven mage - especially one who follows the Creators. The Dalish and the Chantry have an antagonistic relationship, and the Seekers were an arm of the Chantry for a long time.

[Master Warder Z_]

Steelcan wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

....what if everyone thinks the templars will smash the mages, but the mages pull a geth and wage a massive campaign of extermination against the Chantry...

For the first time since the last exalted March steelcan the Templars have prepared for FULL mobilization, You have nearly every Knight Commander swearing allegiance to Lambert's banner and breaking their oath to the Chantry.
You have something that has not seen in centuries, Not a single detachment, or chapter but EVERY chapter, And Every Nation within Thedas even the Imperium has Templars.
You likely have the Templar War machine which is far better equipped, organized and trained then their mage counterparts outnumbering them as well.

You will have thousands if not tens of thousands of Templar under a single flag for the first time since the founding of the chantry.

Its going to be a good war i hope.

Red templars might screw that up a bit

Also Tevinter's templars have absolutely no reason to rise up, nor will they "The Chantry has lost control of every circle outside of Tevinter"

Assuming the Lord Seeker was alone in his opinion there?

Do you really think the Templar order in Tveinter Approves of being dictated by the very people they are supposed to safeguard?

Its just speculation but i have a feeling the Templars there will throw in with the Lord Seeker, if not imediately then eventually.

And the Red Lyium is a threat that can be quashed when it can be quashed, It wouldn't be needed if the Divine wasn't a short sided Mage Sympathizer.

[Steelcan]

Master Warder Z wrote...
Assuming the Lord Seeker was alone in his opinion there?

Do you really think the Templar order in Tveinter Approves of being dictated by the very people they are supposed to safeguard?

Its just speculation but i have a feeling the Templars there will throw in with the Lord Seeker, if not imediately then eventually.

And the Red Lyium is a threat that can be quashed when it can be quashed, It wouldn't be needed if the Divine wasn't a short sided Mage Sympathizer.

I don't think they care much, they can either sit around and do nothing, or they can try and fight incredibly powerful blood mages who at best are mildly sociopathic.

Easy choice to me.

[Master Warder Z_]

Steelcan wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...
Assuming the Lord Seeker was alone in his opinion there?

Do you really think the Templar order in Tveinter Approves of being dictated by the very people they are supposed to safeguard?

Its just speculation but i have a feeling the Templars there will throw in with the Lord Seeker, if not imediately then eventually.

And the Red Lyium is a threat that can be quashed when it can be quashed, It wouldn't be needed if the Divine wasn't a short sided Mage Sympathizer.

I don't think they care much, they can either sit around and do nothing, or they can try and fight incredibly powerful blood mages who at best are mildly sociopathic.

Easy choice to me.

And this is assuming they won't have foreign support? Besides the Magisters are commited to a multi front war already, they couldn't handle a templar revolt at the sametime they are fighting the Qunari.

[The Elder King]

I doubt that the Seekers will become the Inquisition. It'd mean that the Inquisition becomes the Chantry's army, regardless how indipendant it could be. Unless someone thinks that the Chantry would give all of his soldiers to an completely indipendant and separate organization, living itself defenseless.
Plus, in the rings concept art there is a ring indicating the Seekers. It already shown us a faction in-game, the red templars; there is no reason to believe that the other rings indicate different factions.
Though I'm curious which faction the hidden ring stands for.

Modifié par hhh89, 11 septembre 2013 - 07:44 .

[Steelcan]

Master Warder Z wrote...

And this is assuming they won't have foreign support? Besides the Magisters are commited to a multi front war already, they couldn't handle a templar revolt at the sametime they are fighting the Qunari.

They already deal with numerous slave revolts fairly easily.  I doubt the templars there would be
a. motivated enough to rise up
b. capable of fighting blood mages, when for years they have had no expectations to be able to
c.  going to recieve foreign aid until the war winds down in other places

And as I recall Tevinter does not use its magisters against the qunari, or am I wrong?

Modifié par Steelcan, 11 septembre 2013 - 07:47 .

[Master Warder Z_]

Steelcan wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

And this is assuming they won't have foreign support? Besides the Magisters are commited to a multi front war already, they couldn't handle a templar revolt at the sametime they are fighting the Qunari.

They already deal with numerous slave revolts fairly easily.  I doubt the templars there would be
a. motivated enough to rise up
b. capable of fighting blood mages, when for years they have had no expectations to be able to
c.  going to recieve foreign aid until the war winds down in other places

And as I recall Tevinter does not use its magisters against the qunari, or am I wrong?

Not in the field generally but they are the generals and commanders of their rank and file Armies as Fenris will attest to during his first intial escape from his master.

Their position was routed, He fled and left Fenris behind as the city fell.

So you likely would have their best deployed far from the capital.

To address the other points i will state them in order.

A. Eh could be pure speculation on this front
B. Templars can Disrupt Spells and Drain mana, it doesn't matter if the spell is being fueled entirely by their life force or not, They can still avoid, absorb or ward off the effects assuming you don't have the Grand Enchanter himself warding into the Fray.
C. Again speculation but i think toppling the Imperium assuming Lambert remains after his encounter with Cole would be on his to do list.

I really hope they don't kill off Lambert, man was a cool character to say the least.

[Steelcan]

Master Warder Z wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

And this is assuming they won't have foreign support? Besides the Magisters are commited to a multi front war already, they couldn't handle a templar revolt at the sametime they are fighting the Qunari.

They already deal with numerous slave revolts fairly easily.  I doubt the templars there would be
a. motivated enough to rise up
b. capable of fighting blood mages, when for years they have had no expectations to be able to
c.  going to recieve foreign aid until the war winds down in other places

And as I recall Tevinter does not use its magisters against the qunari, or am I wrong?

Not in the field generally but they are the generals and commanders of their rank and file Armies as Fenris will attest to during his first intial escape from his master.

Their position was routed, He fled and left Fenris behind as the city fell.

So you likely would have their best deployed far from the capital.

To address the other points i will state them in order.

A. Eh could be pure speculation on this front
B. Templars can Disrupt Spells and Drain mana, it doesn't matter if the spell is being fueled entirely by their life force or not, They can still avoid, absorb or ward off the effects assuming you don't have the Grand Enchanter himself warding into the Fray.
C. Again speculation but i think toppling the Imperium assuming Lambert remains after his encounter with Cole would be on his to do list.

I really hope they don't kill off Lambert, man was a cool character to say the least.

So was TIM

I didn't think templars could block blood magic.  That's why they are so scared of it.