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[Master Warder Z_]

Steelcan wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

And this is assuming they won't have foreign support? Besides the Magisters are commited to a multi front war already, they couldn't handle a templar revolt at the sametime they are fighting the Qunari.

They already deal with numerous slave revolts fairly easily.  I doubt the templars there would be
a. motivated enough to rise up
b. capable of fighting blood mages, when for years they have had no expectations to be able to
c.  going to recieve foreign aid until the war winds down in other places

And as I recall Tevinter does not use its magisters against the qunari, or am I wrong?

Not in the field generally but they are the generals and commanders of their rank and file Armies as Fenris will attest to during his first intial escape from his master.

Their position was routed, He fled and left Fenris behind as the city fell.

So you likely would have their best deployed far from the capital.

To address the other points i will state them in order.

A. Eh could be pure speculation on this front
B. Templars can Disrupt Spells and Drain mana, it doesn't matter if the spell is being fueled entirely by their life force or not, They can still avoid, absorb or ward off the effects assuming you don't have the Grand Enchanter himself warding into the Fray.
C. Again speculation but i think toppling the Imperium assuming Lambert remains after his encounter with Cole would be on his to do list.

I really hope they don't kill off Lambert, man was a cool character to say the least.

So was TIM

I didn't think templars could block blood magic.  That's why they are so scared of it. 

Ahem the Litany of Adrela.

The Chantry driven Verse to Ward off the effects of Blood Magic.

And TIM was certainly interestin :/ character deserved a lot better then what he got

[Steelcan]

Unless they start mass producing it I doubt it will make a significant impact

[Master Warder Z_]

Steelcan wrote...

Unless they start mass producing it I doubt it will make a significant impact

Production? Its a piece of scripture from what i can tell

Its a written Verse, Admittedly though now that i have given it considerable more thought it was used in the Exalted Marches on Tveinter so if they possess it or not i wouldn't know

[LobselVith8]

hhh89 wrote...

I doubt that the Seekers will become the Inquisition. It'd mean that the Inquisition becomes the Chantry's army, regardless how indipendant it could be. Unless someone thinks that the Chantry would give all of his soldiers to an completely indipendant and separate organization, living itself defenseless.

You mean Cassandra's faction of Seekers? That makes me curious why Cassandra is joining the Inquisitor.

hhh89 wrote...

Plus, in the rings concept art there is a ring indicating the Seekers. It already shown us a faction in-game, the red templars; there is no reason to believe that the other rings indicate different factions.

I'm curious how elves, mages, and templars will react to a Dalish mage Inquisitor. Will elves see him as a positive symbol? Will Circle mages try to persuade him to their cause? Will templars be wary of a politically powerful heathen?

hhh89 wrote...

Though I'm curious which faction the hidden ring stands for.

It could be an entirely new one.

[Master Warder Z_]

LobselVith8 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

I doubt that the Seekers will become the Inquisition. It'd mean that the Inquisition becomes the Chantry's army, regardless how indipendant it could be. Unless someone thinks that the Chantry would give all of his soldiers to an completely indipendant and separate organization, living itself defenseless.

You mean Cassandra's faction of Seekers? That makes me curious why Cassandra is joining the Inquisitor.

hhh89 wrote...

Plus, in the rings concept art there is a ring indicating the Seekers. It already shown us a faction in-game, the red templars; there is no reason to believe that the other rings indicate different factions.

I'm curious how elves, mages, and templars will react to a Dalish mage Inquisitor. Will elves see him as a positive symbol? Will Circle mages try to persuade him to their cause? Will templars be wary of a politically powerful heathen?

hhh89 wrote...

Though I'm curious which faction the hidden ring stands for.

It could be an entirely new one.

The Seekers obviously are divided in view considering their Commander is fully supportive of a war against the Mages just weeks after Kirkwall turned into a warzone and Cassandra obviously wishes to prevent such a conflict although the chances of that occuring now are remote.

Both sides are preparing for engaging each other and thanks to Anders the entire situation has sort of been placed on course.

And the Templars are pretty much a rogue army at the moment, Political outlook and climate likely wouldn't mean much to them. So whatever support an Elf, or a Dalish could Muster likely wouldn't overly interest them unless if it was directly acting against them.

And the Dalish just need to get over themselves in my eye; Humanity beat them to the edge of ruin once to use them as a cheap labor source and later in a very destructive conflict that most sources agree that they started. That said cultural adherence to their own faith would likely make them about as popular as a Qunari to most factions who believe in the Maker.

[t0mm06]

I find it funny how everyone is saying 'mage' and 'templar' as if they are all the same. I mean saying a mage blew up the chantry, and blaming all mages for the act of one person is like the elves blaming all humans for blowing it up, or like the animals blaming all humanoids for blowing it up.
In the end the mages didn't blow it up, it was blown up by a person.

funny thing is this bit of party banter
Aveline: You show admirable restraint, Bethany.
Bethany: For a mage, you mean.
Aveline: I could also say, "for a Hawke," but yes, for a mage.
Bethany: You have a sword. Why aren't you killing someone right now?
Aveline: Fair point, but I can put my sword down.
Bethany: Believe me, I have tried.

I find it funny because aveline looks down on bethany here just because she was born with these abilities, but its not her fault she was born, she doesnt want these power, she doesnt want to be a danger to anyone.
Aveline on the other hand chose to pick up the sword, she chose to be dangerous and kill people. How does that make her any better? i would argue that it makes her worse, the fact that she can have the audacity to actually look down on someone because of how they were born, whilst she herself decided to be just as 'bad'.

[Master Warder Z_]

t0mm06 wrote...

I find it funny how everyone is saying 'mage' and 'templar' as if they are all the same. I mean saying a mage blew up the chantry, and blaming all mages for the act of one person is like the elves blaming all humans for blowing it up, or like the animals blaming all humanoids for blowing it up.
In the end the mages didn't blow it up, it was blown up by a person.

funny thing is this bit of party banter
Aveline: You show admirable restraint, Bethany.
Bethany: For a mage, you mean.
Aveline: I could also say, "for a Hawke," but yes, for a mage.
Bethany: You have a sword. Why aren't you killing someone right now?
Aveline: Fair point, but I can put my sword down.
Bethany: Believe me, I have tried.

I find it funny because aveline looks down on bethany here just because she was born with these abilities, but its not her fault she was born, she doesnt want these power, she doesnt want to be a danger to anyone.
Aveline on the other hand chose to pick up the sword, she chose to be dangerous and kill people. How does that make her any better? i would argue that it makes her worse, the fact that she can have the audacity to actually look down on someone because of how they were born, whilst she herself decided to be just as 'bad'.

Because when it comes down to it trusting Mages when they have shown themselves to be lustful of Power time and again is foolish.

But to address your own argument.

Do you blame the Senior Enchanters for supporting the Grand Enchanters bid for Independence from the chantry? 

Do you think the Templars were wrong to disvow the Accord and Break from the chantry due to their lack of action and the Divine's support of the Mage element? You have groups judged based upon the actions of the majority of them, Should all mages be blamed for the actions of Anders? No but should they expect themselves to be looked upon as similarly dangerous? 

Of course its just basic logic; You have a regional Chantry head assasinated by a Mage, you have an attempt on the Divine by a Mage. Time and again the Mages have flaunted their position to the Templars and then are surprised when the Templars declare war upon the remenants of the circles?

Personal choice is more then enough for most; Why wouldn't it be the case here? You have Mages swearing allegiance to the faction that is dragging the world into war, You claim it is worse for a man to wield a sword then to be born a mage?

Then i suggest looking to the choices Mages have made for themselves.

[LobselVith8]

Master Warder Z wrote...

The Seekers obviously are divided in view considering their Commander is fully supportive of a war against the Mages just weeks after Kirkwall turned into a warzone and Cassandra obviously wishes to prevent such a conflict although the chances of that occuring now are remote.

Lambert and Cassandra's factions seem to be the two current factions of Seekers.

Master Warder Z wrote...

Both sides are preparing for engaging each other and thanks to Anders the entire situation has sort of been placed on course.

Anders wasn't alone in the chaos that ensued in Act III's finale.

Master Warder Z wrote...

And the Templars are pretty much a rogue army at the moment, Political outlook and climate likely wouldn't mean much to them. So whatever support an Elf, or a Dalish could Muster likely wouldn't overly interest them unless if it was directly acting against them.

Isn't a free Dalish mage with political and military power, or a non-Andrastian serving as a leader, something that would draw their attention? They were hunting down the Dalish for centuries, after all. 

Master Warder Z wrote...

And the Dalish just need to get over themselves in my eye; Humanity beat them to the edge of ruin once to use them as a cheap labor source and later in a very destructive conflict that most sources agree that they started.

The source being the Orlesian Empire. The Dalish (and the elven Warden) give a different account.

Master Warder Z wrote...

That said cultural adherence to their own faith would likely make them about as popular as a Qunari to most factions who believe in the Maker. 

With Orlais in a civil war, the elves might pull a coup to reclaim the Dales.

[Eternal Phoenix]

I thought the mages were presented as the big bad in DA2. Half the enemies you're killing are blood mages and demons summoned by blood mages. The mages free from the circle practice blood magic only affirming what the templars say about free mages and it's a mage who's responsible for your mother's death which Orsino (Orinoco) allows.

[Master Warder Z_]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

The Seekers obviously are divided in view considering their Commander is fully supportive of a war against the Mages just weeks after Kirkwall turned into a warzone and Cassandra obviously wishes to prevent such a conflict although the chances of that occuring now are remote.

Lambert and Cassandra's factions seem to be the two current factions of Seekers.

Master Warder Z wrote...

Both sides are preparing for engaging each other and thanks to Anders the entire situation has sort of been placed on course.

Anders wasn't alone in the chaos that ensued in Act III's finale.

Master Warder Z wrote...

And the Templars are pretty much a rogue army at the moment, Political outlook and climate likely wouldn't mean much to them. So whatever support an Elf, or a Dalish could Muster likely wouldn't overly interest them unless if it was directly acting against them.

Isn't a free Dalish mage with political and military power, or a non-Andrastian serving as a leader, something that would draw their attention? They were hunting down the Dalish for centuries, after all. 

Master Warder Z wrote...

And the Dalish just need to get over themselves in my eye; Humanity beat them to the edge of ruin once to use them as a cheap labor source and later in a very destructive conflict that most sources agree that they started.

The source being the Orlesian Empire. The Dalish (and the elven Warden) give a different account.

Master Warder Z wrote...

That said cultural adherence to their own faith would likely make them about as popular as a Qunari to most factions who believe in the Maker. 

With Orlais in a civil war, the elves might pull a coup to reclaim the Dales.

1. Indeed.

2. And the Knight Commander didn't order an Anullment until Anders acted, She rejected the Tranquil solution, Things were bad in that city but it only spiraled to that point due to the actions of a lone nut.

3. Eh it really depends, Because you can have as much of their attention as you want but them actually commiting resources away from the Mage front to assault what could or could not be a newly emerging threat seems like a remote occurance.

4.The Dalish claim it is a victor's history and that is their right to do so but you really would need to swallow a lot to fully accept their version.

5.I doubt that strongly considering you would need a great majority of tribes to merely reconqueor that land, to say nothing of holding it once a uniform threat presents it self, I am pretty sure Orlais would unite in face of invasion. That tends to happen a lot in History and Dragon age. You have the Tveinter and Normal Chantry uniting for the first time since their schism to fight the Qunari.

You likely would have the Nobility putting their squabling aside until the elves were defeated.

That said i wouldn't be against that occuring to be honest, it would give me the chance to finally crush that minority into the dust of history. The Dalish have been a pain for two games now.

Indeed i think kicking that civilization into the grave once and for all could be a good event for DA3.

[The Elder King]

@Lobsel: the fact that the Chantry will not give all of their soldiers to the Chantry doesn't mean the divine wouldn't send Cassandra as their rapresentative or to help the Inquisition.
An elf Inquisitor in general will have advantages when dealing with the elves, at least that is what Laidlaw stated. The templars would've have problems with a mage regardless of their race. As for the mages, I don't know. I think the dalish as a group could be wary of the mages, even if not as much as the templars. The human mages were the one who enslaves them first.
As for the fifth ring, the Wardens might be a safe bet.

[t0mm06]

Master Warder Z wrote...

t0mm06 wrote...

Because when it comes down to it trusting Mages when they have shown themselves to be lustful of Power time and again is foolish.

But to address your own argument.

Do you blame the Senior Enchanters for supporting the Grand Enchanters bid for Independence from the chantry? 

Do you think the Templars were wrong to disvow the Accord and Break from the chantry due to their lack of action and the Divine's support of the Mage element? You have groups judged based upon the actions of the majority of them, Should all mages be blamed for the actions of Anders? No but should they expect themselves to be looked upon as similarly dangerous? 

Of course its just basic logic; You have a regional Chantry head assasinated by a Mage, you have an attempt on the Divine by a Mage. Time and again the Mages have flaunted their position to the Templars and then are surprised when the Templars declare war upon the remenants of the circles?

Personal choice is more then enough for most; Why wouldn't it be the case here? You have Mages swearing allegiance to the faction that is dragging the world into war, You claim it is worse for a man to wield a sword then to be born a mage?

Then i suggest looking to the choices Mages have made for themselves.

Some mages have been shown to be lustful of power, more to us the player but then it can be argued that as a player who is basically good (most of the time) we see more of the worst of everyone because we dont see the quiet nice ones, because they are not fighting.
You cant look at them as a group, its like when people look at any teenager and assume they are trouble because what we see on the new about them is amlost always bad. 

I think the Grand enchatetress is a bad leader, I much prefered Rhys, he feels like the circle is needed, but that the templars and mages should work in a partnership for the better of EVERYONE not just the normal people or just the mages but EVERYONE. 
But no i dont blame them, because throughout reading Asunder it became clearer and clearer to me that there was no changing the circle, it needsa to be destroyed BUT rebuilt, differently, not by thoes who fear magic or what it can do but by thoes who understand it and understand what it can do. (Through reading Asunder i cam to realise how little the templars understand of magic and that is aweful, they should know it as well as the mages if they want to protect people from it. 

And i dont really have an opinion on the breaking of the accord, i mean if i think about it i suppose its better. I mean the Templars are going to hunt and war with the mages anyway, so at least by breaking the accord they have said 'We are no longer with the chantry' where as not breaking it would be like 'we are still with the chantry but we're doing what we want anyway'

And i think Lambert is worse then Meridith, she was driven mad by red lyrium, and an abundance of Bloodmages in kirkwall (some who became bloodmages because of her restrictions, BUT i agree a lot were already bloodmages before her, and some were just dicks) But you're right in earlier comments, Meridth never hated mages, she feared what they could do but never hated them.
Lambert however has a clear hatred, and is paranoid. Also he jumps to conclusions without sufficent evidence and then refuses to beleive he could have been wrong. A good leader shouldn't be like that, he should be ready to admit his mistakes and see the truth when it is presented to him. He should also listen to his Captians  rather then hate and dis-trust anyone who has a different opinion.  

I suppose one of the big differences of opinions here is after reading asunder i dont think that the dispanding of the circle is the wrong thing to do, yes there were better options, but they began to dissapear more and more (and the fault for that was on both sides.)

So yeh i sorta see that both sides have there good and bad points, I cannot believe that anyone should be treadted like the mages have, simply because of how they are born and the actions of others. I dont see a fairness there.

Also the templars are dragging the world to war just as much as the mages, I'm not blaming them mutually! Its both sides faults.
But yeh i dont think that choosing to become someone who has the ablilty to kill hundred is worse then being born with it. 
 

[Lord Raijin]

The birth of a Templar.

[Mr.House]

Funny, he didn't become a templar for me. He was always protective of his sister and returned to Kirkwall to protect her and even got upset when she decided to help the templars.

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[AresKeith]

Mr.House wrote...

Funny, he didn't become a templar for me. He was always protective of his sister and returned to Kirkwall to protect her and even got upset when she decided to help the templars.

Don't be silly, anyone who isn't a mage is a Anders hater and anti-mage 

[kinderschlager]

Chari wrote...

I'm not here to start another Templars vs Mages war, I see boths sides and their reasons. My main issue here is the way of storytelling.
It seems to me that ever since DA2 the Bioware have forgotten how to draw conflicts in grey shades. Mind you, they were never really good at it but in ME they did manage to make conflicts such as the Krogan Rebellions, Geth vs Quarians and even the Reapers (eh, to some extent) more or less difficult. In DA:O there were the dwarf king choosing part, the elves vs werewolves, demons vs spirits etc.
But ever since DA2 I've kind of given up on any well-written conflict in DA universe. The Asunder only made it worse.

The biggest problem and my biggest worry with DA:I is how they will handle this conflict further.
Now, this is not time to angrily write here that teh templars are eeeeviiiil and one thousand reasons you hate them. I don't care, it doesn't matter. Im' talking about the way this conflict was presented, not who's right or wrong. If they ever make any side purely evil, they'll pretty much fail at wiriting a complex, realistic conflict. No best-story-award for them no matter how pretty nugs will look.

Remember the blind templar who sacrified himself to destroy the evil spirits, Gregor, who was strict but just for the most part, the Lotherings templars who were the only force keeping order and peace in the forgotten village? Remember them being just guys who followed rules and did their job? Nope, they are no more. Now they are Bad Guys and Bioware seems to be keen on making them even more eeeviiil. For what sake so much retcon I wonder? If they were always like this I'd understand, but they weren't. Do we really need A Bad Evil Force in such a game anyway? Even the darkspawn got some interesting interpretation in DA:A. And these guys are classic Evil Monsters.
Did we have a difficult choice in DA2? No, we either chose side of a bunch of mages screwed up by Anders and Meredith, or a side of red lyrium addicted flying tyrant. This is not a choice, this is bs. This is not a conflict, only one side is shown as a sympathetic, the other one was pretty much turned crazy up to eleven. This is not how you write good conflicts.
The conflict was so unbalanced. so obviously good/bad, black/white it hurt, no self-respecting writer would be proud of this. Even frigging Voldemort, Archdemon, Corpheus, even demons and darkspawn have reasons to be "evil", to do what they do. Their nature, their past, their beliefs etc. And unlike DA2 emplars, they are not mere people yet they feel alive. 
I hope they don't repeat it in DA:I and manage to balance the conflict so the game will deserve AAA rating not just for pretty picture and gameplay, but also because of the dialogues, plot. storytelling and difficult morals choices.
And not lack of these.

i'm pretty much full mage supporter, and even i agree with this. i missed the templars that could add 2 and 2 and NOT get blood mage as the result<_<

[LobselVith8]

Master Warder Z wrote...

1. Indeed.

Which does make me wonder what this faction's response will be to the Inquisition, and if it will vary depending on the race of the protagonist.

Master Warder Z wrote...

2. And the Knight Commander didn't order an Anullment until Anders acted, She rejected the Tranquil solution, Things were bad in that city but it only spiraled to that point due to the actions of a lone nut.

It was still Meredith's choice to condemn hundreds to death for the actions of one man.

Master Warder Z wrote...

3. Eh it really depends, Because you can have as much of their attention as you want but them actually commiting resources away from the Mage front to assault what could or could not be a newly emerging threat seems like a remote occurance.

I think a mage having power and authority, which seems to be in direct violation of Chantry law, would draw some resources. This has never been properly addressed in the past, I admit - whether it's becoming the new Teyrn of Gwaren or the new Arl of Amaranthine. I would hope that isn't the case with Inquisition.

Master Warder Z wrote...

4.The Dalish claim it is a victor's history and that is their right to do so but you really would need to swallow a lot to fully accept their version.

The Dalish version is that human missionaries were kicked out of the Dales because the elves refused to convert to the Andrastian Chantry, and that templars were sent into the elven kingdom as a response. The elven Warden can condemn the Chantry of Andraste for this as well, even if the protagonist didn't come from the Sabrae clan. I don't find it hard to believe, even though we're not in a position to know the absolute truth. The Orlesian version, on the other hand, brings up dark rumors that seem to have no basis in fact, like human sacrifice to the Creators, and that the humans were completely blameless in the war.

Master Warder Z wrote...

5.I doubt that strongly considering you would need a great majority of tribes to merely reconqueor that land, to say nothing of holding it once a uniform threat presents it self, I am pretty sure Orlais would unite in face of invasion. That tends to happen a lot in History and Dragon age. You have the Tveinter and Normal Chantry uniting for the first time since their schism to fight the Qunari.

If the Fifth Blight has taught us anything, it's that even in the face of annihilation by the darkspawn, people can be distracted by their own infighting. I can imagine Celene and Gaspard continuing their civil war, and figuring they can deal with the Dales once they have achieved victory over the other. It's not like the rest of Thedas is in a position to help, with the veil tears and the Mage-Templar War. It's a hypothetical, of course, but one I think is possible, especially with the rumors of elven rebellion in the Dales (that we hear about in Asunder and the upcoming novel, which seems to address that the elves will play a prominent role in the story).

Master Warder Z wrote...

You likely would have the Nobility putting their squabling aside until the elves were defeated.

Origins showed us that the opposite is just as likely, since the civil war in Ferelden didn't end until the Landsmeet took place a year later.

Master Warder Z wrote...

That said i wouldn't be against that occuring to be honest, it would give me the chance to finally crush that minority into the dust of history. The Dalish have been a pain for two games now.

Indeed i think kicking that civilization into the grave once and for all could be a good event for DA3. 

I think that emancipating the kingdom of the Dales from Orlesian occupation would be ideal, personally. Since it seems that a Dalish mage is possible in Inquisition, and an elven rebellion is likely (even if it's simply speculation at the moment), I'd certainly side with the downtrodden elves over Celene or Gaspard.

[Steelcan]

Master Warder Z wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Unless they start mass producing it I doubt it will make a significant impact

Production? Its a piece of scripture from what i can tell

Its a written Verse, Admittedly though now that i have given it considerable more thought it was used in the Exalted Marches on Tveinter so if they possess it or not i wouldn't know

hmmm I figured it was an actual object actually doing the blocking...

Either way, if it was so effective, Tevinter would have fallen to the Exalted Marches rather easily.

[Lord Raijin]

Mr.House wrote...

Funny, he didn't become a templar for me. He was always protective of his sister and returned to Kirkwall to protect her and even got upset when she decided to help the templars.

I always make him join the templars so he can witness himself what these brutes do to mages. I want him to see how they treat mages like his father.

AresKeith wrote...
Don't be silly, anyone who isn't a mage is a Anders hater and anti-mage 

That sarcastic post failed.

[Mr.House]

And people wonder why Carver get's pissy, it's because of people like this.

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[LobselVith8]

Mr.House wrote...

And people wonder why Carver get's pissy, it's because of people like this.

Carver feels he's in Hawke's shadow. Also, Bethany and Leandra remark how Anders reminds them of Malcolm. And Carver does talk about hearing about mage plight before, which could have been from Malcolm.

[Master Warder Z_]

Steelcan wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Unless they start mass producing it I doubt it will make a significant impact

Production? Its a piece of scripture from what i can tell

Its a written Verse, Admittedly though now that i have given it considerable more thought it was used in the Exalted Marches on Tveinter so if they possess it or not i wouldn't know

hmmm I figured it was an actual object actually doing the blocking...

Either way, if it was so effective, Tevinter would have fallen to the Exalted Marches rather easily.

You forget it was made in the service of divine clement who was the divine in charge of the third exalted march, which was the final assault against tveinter, it wasn't a game changer because a conflict we all know of came about just ten or so years down the line during the siege.

The third blight.

[Lokiwithrope]

Sorry to spoil it, guys, but the main antagonist is definitely a glowing slime.

We can only kill it with a salt mage. It's a genius final boss!

[Steelcan]

Master Warder Z wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Unless they start mass producing it I doubt it will make a significant impact

Production? Its a piece of scripture from what i can tell

Its a written Verse, Admittedly though now that i have given it considerable more thought it was used in the Exalted Marches on Tveinter so if they possess it or not i wouldn't know

hmmm I figured it was an actual object actually doing the blocking...

Either way, if it was so effective, Tevinter would have fallen to the Exalted Marches rather easily.

You forget it was made in the service of divine clement who was the divine in charge of the third exalted march, which was the final assault against tveinter, it wasn't a game changer because a conflict we all know of came about just ten or so years down the line during the siege.

The third blight.

meh, whats a blight to an army hellbent on religious unification and and a hankering for mage blood

[Master Warder Z_]

Steelcan wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Unless they start mass producing it I doubt it will make a significant impact

Production? Its a piece of scripture from what i can tell

Its a written Verse, Admittedly though now that i have given it considerable more thought it was used in the Exalted Marches on Tveinter so if they possess it or not i wouldn't know

hmmm I figured it was an actual object actually doing the blocking...

Either way, if it was so effective, Tevinter would have fallen to the Exalted Marches rather easily.

You forget it was made in the service of divine clement who was the divine in charge of the third exalted march, which was the final assault against tveinter, it wasn't a game changer because a conflict we all know of came about just ten or so years down the line during the siege.

The third blight.

meh, whats a blight to an army hellbent on religious unification and and a hankering for mage blood

The end of the civilized world?

Those two parties have come to agreements on things that would remove Adrastrian Ideals from Thedas.

Blights and Qunari are about the only thing that will stop Tveinter and the Orlaisian Chantry from going at it.

But they haven't resumed their conflict in centuries; I do have a feeling that will be retified fairly soon.