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[robarcool]

lightswitch wrote...

 this thread is juicy. I like it.

few things

Br3ad wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

A support character is one that makes the game easier for everyone. We are all support characters.

Even the Cabal Vanguard? 

Cabal is the best rez monkey in the game

PronozaSoldier wrote...

Volgineer would be my perception of a support character.

Pretty bad in taking or dishing out damage but can help other teammates be more effective by boosting their shields, revealing enemy positions and mass debuffing with recon mine and further debuffing with proxy mine.

I agree with this. Volgineer is so supportive he can't do anything without being at risk of helping his teammates. This makes him a horrible score****r and so I never play him.

robarcool wrote...

Still wrong. Volus aren't support kits.

uhhh I don't know man. Volus were obviously designed as support kits - they're mostly set up to do things like heal, debuff, draw aggro, and detonate stuff (and also tank and draw aggro especially in the case of the merc) - but we all know this game doesn't require team work or team roles, and especially once level X URs get involved every kit is basically turned into Rambo.

Fun facts about the Volus Engineer, once he gets both debuffs going on a target he has better weapon damage output than a Human Soldier. Unless, of course, said HSol is shooting at the same target the Engineer is debuffing, in which the HSol all of a sudden becomes a 5000 DPS capable kit with appropriate weaponry. Which is kind of a lot compared with the 2-3k DPS the Engineer will be doing.

If you pair him off with weapons platforms that don't really have debuffs (Destroyer, TGI, TSol) the levels of damage you can generate are pretty ridiculous - much more than the engineer would be able to generate on his own.

So you guys can go back to arguing whether or not Volus are limited to being support kits or not, but either way I will say this: the Engineer is definitely a team player.

Volus are designed to be support kits and I appreciate what you say. But a lot of things designed to do something tend to something else. Like Cerberus is supposed to be the most strategic faction, but they are bumrush to grave guys now. Similarly, volus can dish out so much damage that what they were intended to do is moot. What they can do is more important.

[bondiboy]

A better question would have been "Which kit can provide the best support"

[Tokenusername]

robarcool wrote...

Volus are designed to be support kits and I appreciate what you say. But a lot of things designed to do something tend to something else. Like Cerberus is supposed to be the most strategic faction, but they are bumrush to grave guys now. Similarly, volus can dish out so much damage that what they were intended to do is moot. What they can do is more important.

Disregard my previous statement, the stupid was undeterred.

[lightswitch]

stricko wrote...

A better question would have been "Which kit can provide the best support"

I agree with this

The answer to this newer, better question is definitely the Volus Engineer

[Cirvante]

lightswitch wrote...

stricko wrote...

A better question would have been "Which kit can provide the best support"

I agree with this

The answer to this newer, better question is definitely the Volus Engineer GI

FTFY

[Tokenusername]

stricko wrote...

A better question would have been "Which kit can provide the best support"

Not really because that doesn't solve the issue at hand. In fact it might well perpetuate it.

[RedJohn]

Element 0 wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

stricko wrote...

A better question would have been "Which kit can provide the best support"

I agree with this

The answer to this newer, better question is definitely the Volus Engineer

 

Juggy. He can hold an entire wave of bosses, heal people, shield their flank completely from damage, draw aggro, and kill Phantoms with simple melee. And he can't be sync-killed which means he can always gel if necessary. 

A decent Jugg can be a corner stone in any team. 

A shame PUGs don't use them like that. :/

[bondiboy]

Tokenusername wrote...

stricko wrote...

A better question would have been "Which kit can provide the best support"

Not really because that doesn't solve the issue at hand. In fact it might well perpetuate it.

Another question. Why do they call the the Volguard the Volus Protector ?

[robarcool]

Tokenusername wrote...

robarcool wrote...

Volus are designed to be support kits and I appreciate what you say. But a lot of things designed to do something tend to something else. Like Cerberus is supposed to be the most strategic faction, but they are bumrush to grave guys now. Similarly, volus can dish out so much damage that what they were intended to do is moot. What they can do is more important.

Disregard my previous statement, the stupid was undeterred.

Yep, you are the only wise guy here.

[Tokenusername]

robarcool wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

robarcool wrote...

Volus are designed to be support kits and I appreciate what you say. But a lot of things designed to do something tend to something else. Like Cerberus is supposed to be the most strategic faction, but they are bumrush to grave guys now. Similarly, volus can dish out so much damage that what they were intended to do is moot. What they can do is more important.

Disregard my previous statement, the stupid was undeterred.

Yep, you are the only wise guy here.

Nope, i'm just as stupid for keep coming back here.

[bondiboy]

Element 0 wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

stricko wrote...

A better question would have been "Which kit can provide the best support"

I agree with this

The answer to this newer, better question is definitely the Volus Engineer

 

Juggy. He can hold an entire wave of bosses, heal people, shield their flank completely from damage, draw aggro, and kill Phantoms with simple melee. And he can't be sync-killed which means he can always gel if necessary. 

A decent Jugg can be a corner stone in any team. 

Hard to argue with this

[Creator Limbs]

acicm2 wrote...

terrible kits like the FQI and FQE.

I'm deleting you from my friends.

[lightswitch]

stricko wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

stricko wrote...

A better question would have been "Which kit can provide the best support"

I agree with this

The answer to this newer, better question is definitely the Volus Engineer

 

Juggy. He can hold an entire wave of bosses, heal people, shield their flank completely from damage, draw aggro, and kill Phantoms with simple melee. And he can't be sync-killed which means he can always gel if necessary. 

A decent Jugg can be a corner stone in any team. 

Hard to argue with this

There's also the Justicar with her Biotic Bubble to consider.

For me personally I would much rather have a Volus Engineer as a teammate than a Juggernaut. Also I would consider the cornerstone of any team to be the primary damage dealer. Everything else is just extra...

When you put the Justicar, Volus Engineer, and a Juggernaut all on one team you get a trio that even the scrubbiest pugs will struggle to bleed out with. Assuming they have their builds set up properly and have a half decent camping strategy so nevermind.

[Tokenusername]

lightswitch wrote...

When you put the Justicar, Volus Engineer, and a Juggernaut all on one team you get a trio that even the scrubbiest pugs will struggle to bleed out with.

Never underestimate the scrubbiness of PUGs.

[bondiboy]

I would also add the GE in the mix . Healing turret , stun power and the ability to scan for hidden enemies