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They should leave that niche
Why? It's a great specialty. No one else, or few if any, do it, while we have simply story-heavy games coming out of the industry's nose.
What would you change in any of the Mass Effect games if you could?
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Why? It's a great specialty. No one else, or few if any, do it, while we have simply story-heavy games coming out of the industry's nose.
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That's what I meant.The Mad Hanar wrote...
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They should leave that niche
Or they could transcend it and create both.
Ah. Well, it's better to have one than neither. A bird in hand, you know.
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ME3 didn't really depart that far from the DAO formula (although you were a bit more free in DAO to choose when you allied with some races). The difference is it works differently with one small region (Ferelden) than an entire galaxy. I still maintain it's simply too grand scale for it's own good. For one game, at least. This was a story worth spreading out and slowing the pace with.
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This Spectre would be on my squad.
Also having the Reaper invasion occur at the beginning of Mass Effect 3 was a huge mistake. This person wrote a good argument.
Also having the Reaper invasion occur at the beginning of Mass Effect 3 was a huge mistake. This person wrote a good argument.
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There has been much criticism of individual elements of the game, the ending, Crucible blah, blah. The main failure for me was the incorporation of the Reaper invasion as an intro. It was the single most dramatic element of the game in a human perspective but it was kind of glossed over in game and made the story illogical and incoherent as far as i was concerned.
Shepard is a soldier, not a diplomat or general and does not have the political clout to be a negotiator that other force would recognise. Also there would be a n intense amount of suspicion attached to Shepard after her sojourn as a representative of an avowed enemy of the Council forces. It is simply ludicrous format to think that the other races would be so ready to accept him.her as a representative.
The Reaper presence added little to the game other than some cheap attempts at drama and a couple of scripted battle sequences. In fact the Reapers as an enemy simply do not work in a shooter format, they're too powerful for hand held weapons to take down. Considering the game was centred around a Special forces type groundforce the enemy would need to be scaled accordingly to work.
I think the game would have been improved by removing the Reapers presence totally from game and continue by using indoctrinated thralls like Cerberus. Only I would have taken it further by having major races also having an indoctrinated storyline of sorts. it had already been established in ME2 that Harbinger could directly influence thralls from dark space, also that the Reapers had left indoctrination devices throughout the galaxy. It had already been established that these devices could create the Reaper monsters themselves in one of the earlier comics, in that storyline Turians were improved into Marauders or meta Turians. Having an Asari Matriarch, A Salarian Dalatrass and A Turian primarch leading seperatist factions against humanity and the use of Indoctrination devices could still introduce enemies such as Banshees etc.
I think it would have been more coherent to have the consequences of ME2 taken into account. Shepard's actions against the Batarians and in the Terminus systems should have been a trigger for war. It's simply unbelievable for any force to ignore the destruction of a colony and the widespread wave of death and destruction that followed in Shepard's wake. You could still start off the game with a war scenario without the Reapers.
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^ Some of the other races did have hints of indocrinated thralls (some suspicion with the Salarians, as well as Rana Thanoptis in Thessia). I get the feeling Rana was always supposed to be a bigger element (telling by the squad reaction in ME2), but they couldn't get around to it. So simply made an email bulletin about it.
But again, this goes back to my main complaint that the story was too big for just one title.
But again, this goes back to my main complaint that the story was too big for just one title.
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^ I disagree wholly with that statement about Shepard not having the political clout to be a negotiator. Shepard saved the galaxy from a massive massive spaceship that a fleet couldn't even take down without it lowering its shields first. Millions saw that.
Hawke was the Champion of Kirkwall, the Warden was the Hero of Ferelden. I think you can truly say after ME1 that in the eyes of the galaxy Shepard is the Hero of the Galaxy.
Hawke was the Champion of Kirkwall, the Warden was the Hero of Ferelden. I think you can truly say after ME1 that in the eyes of the galaxy Shepard is the Hero of the Galaxy.
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Everything from ME2 to the credits of ME3.
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You've been reading this thread for too long.
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Shepard compared First Contact to the Genophage. Ya, that's the type of person you want in poltics.EntropicAngel wrote...
^ I disagree wholly with that statement about Shepard not having the political clout to be a negotiator. Shepard saved the galaxy from a massive massive spaceship that a fleet couldn't even take down without it lowering its shields first. Millions saw that.
Hawke was the Champion of Kirkwall, the Warden was the Hero of Ferelden. I think you can truly say after ME1 that in the eyes of the galaxy Shepard is the Hero of the Galaxy.
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Tbh, I would've spared Tela Vasir too
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^ I disagree wholly with that statement about Shepard not having the political clout to be a negotiator. Shepard saved the galaxy from a massive massive spaceship that a fleet couldn't even take down without it lowering its shields first. Millions saw that.
Hawke was the Champion of Kirkwall, the Warden was the Hero of Ferelden. I think you can truly say after ME1 that in the eyes of the galaxy Shepard is the Hero of the Galaxy.
Shepard isn't necessarily though. For whatever reason, Shepard might also be infamous. Al-Jilani calls him "once the darling of the Alliance, but now broken".. The Warden at Purgatory didn't seem to care you saved his people from destruction (if you bothered doing something like that at all). For whatever/unknown reason, you were more valuable as a prisoner. You're as valuable to him in the same way as Jack. I'm not saying why... it's up to you to fill in the blanks, but it's definitely not as clear cut as being a hero after the events of ME1.
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Compared to some American congressmen...Mr.House wrote...
Shepard compared First Contact to the Genophage. Ya, that's the type of person you want in poltics.EntropicAngel wrote...
^ I disagree wholly with that statement about Shepard not having the political clout to be a negotiator. Shepard saved the galaxy from a massive massive spaceship that a fleet couldn't even take down without it lowering its shields first. Millions saw that.
Hawke was the Champion of Kirkwall, the Warden was the Hero of Ferelden. I think you can truly say after ME1 that in the eyes of the galaxy Shepard is the Hero of the Galaxy.
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Wut?StreetMagic wrote...
EntropicAngel wrote...
^ I disagree wholly with that statement about Shepard not having the political clout to be a negotiator. Shepard saved the galaxy from a massive massive spaceship that a fleet couldn't even take down without it lowering its shields first. Millions saw that.
Hawke was the Champion of Kirkwall, the Warden was the Hero of Ferelden. I think you can truly say after ME1 that in the eyes of the galaxy Shepard is the Hero of the Galaxy.
Shepard isn't necessarily though. For whatever reason, Shepard might also be infamous. Al-Jilani calls him "once the darling of the Alliance, but now broken".. The Warden at Purgatory didn't seem to care you saved his people from destruction (if you bothered doing something like that at all). For whatever/unknown reason, you were more valuable as a prisoner. You're as valuable to him in the same way as Jack. I'm not saying why... it's up to you to fill in the blanks, but it's definitely not as clear cut as being a hero afterwards.
If Shepard were as valuable as Jack, he would have sold Jack a long time ago. Shepard is worth a lot more. Shepard's valuable because Shepard is Shepard. This unknown you are talking about does not exist,
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^This. The only Blue Xenos that I really liked.wolfhowwl wrote...
This Spectre would be on my squad.
Also having the Reaper invasion occur at the beginning of Mass Effect 3 was a huge mistake. This person wrote a good argument.
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Shepard compared First Contact to the Genophage. Ya, that's the type of person you want in poltics.
You aren't addressing what the issue was. The issue was whether Shepard has influence, not whether Shepard is stupid or not. Shepard may well be stupid, but Shepard undoubtedly has tremendous influence.
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Wut?StreetMagic wrote...
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^ I disagree wholly with that statement about Shepard not having the political clout to be a negotiator. Shepard saved the galaxy from a massive massive spaceship that a fleet couldn't even take down without it lowering its shields first. Millions saw that.
Hawke was the Champion of Kirkwall, the Warden was the Hero of Ferelden. I think you can truly say after ME1 that in the eyes of the galaxy Shepard is the Hero of the Galaxy.
Shepard isn't necessarily though. For whatever reason, Shepard might also be infamous. Al-Jilani calls him "once the darling of the Alliance, but now broken".. The Warden at Purgatory didn't seem to care you saved his people from destruction (if you bothered doing something like that at all). For whatever/unknown reason, you were more valuable as a prisoner. You're as valuable to him in the same way as Jack. I'm not saying why... it's up to you to fill in the blanks, but it's definitely not as clear cut as being a hero afterwards.
If Shepard were as valuable as Jack, he would have sold Jack a long time ago. Shepard is worth a lot more. Shepard's valuable because Shepard is Shepard. This unknown you are talking about does not exist,
Damnit. Don't be like David and take my words too literally. I'm just trying to get in a post as quick as possible and speaking shorthand a bit. The point was Shep was valuable. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
To me, it's not an unknown if you sacrifced the council. Makes perfect sense to me. You have to use your imagination more otherwise.
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That sounds like a personal attack against me. Reported. Reported twice.StreetMagic wrote...
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Wut?StreetMagic wrote...
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^ I disagree wholly with that statement about Shepard not having the political clout to be a negotiator. Shepard saved the galaxy from a massive massive spaceship that a fleet couldn't even take down without it lowering its shields first. Millions saw that.
Hawke was the Champion of Kirkwall, the Warden was the Hero of Ferelden. I think you can truly say after ME1 that in the eyes of the galaxy Shepard is the Hero of the Galaxy.
Shepard isn't necessarily though. For whatever reason, Shepard might also be infamous. Al-Jilani calls him "once the darling of the Alliance, but now broken".. The Warden at Purgatory didn't seem to care you saved his people from destruction (if you bothered doing something like that at all). For whatever/unknown reason, you were more valuable as a prisoner. You're as valuable to him in the same way as Jack. I'm not saying why... it's up to you to fill in the blanks, but it's definitely not as clear cut as being a hero afterwards.
If Shepard were as valuable as Jack, he would have sold Jack a long time ago. Shepard is worth a lot more. Shepard's valuable because Shepard is Shepard. This unknown you are talking about does not exist,
Damnit. Don't be like David and take my words too literally. I'm just trying to get in a post as quick as possible and speaking shorthand a bit. The point was Shep was valuable. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Shepard isn't necessarily though. For whatever reason, Shepard might also be infamous. Al-Jilani calls him "once the darling of the Alliance, but now broken".. The Warden at Purgatory didn't seem to care you saved his people from destruction (if you bothered doing something like that at all). For whatever/unknown reason, you were more valuable as a prisoner. You're as valuable to him in the same way as Jack. I'm not saying why... it's up to you to fill in the blanks, but it's definitely not as clear cut as being a hero after the events of ME1.
Al-Jilani is a media hack who's deliberately trying to tick Shepard off and get him to mess up. The Warden of Purgatory was in his job for the money--it shouldn't be a major surprise that he decides to sell Shep out.
Politicians are in it either for the good of the people (hopefully) or the popularity/power, not money. Shepard is good for both.
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Shepard isn't necessarily though. For whatever reason, Shepard might also be infamous. Al-Jilani calls him "once the darling of the Alliance, but now broken".. The Warden at Purgatory didn't seem to care you saved his people from destruction (if you bothered doing something like that at all). For whatever/unknown reason, you were more valuable as a prisoner. You're as valuable to him in the same way as Jack. I'm not saying why... it's up to you to fill in the blanks, but it's definitely not as clear cut as being a hero after the events of ME1.
Al-Jilani is a media hack who's deliberately trying to tick Shepard off and get him to mess up. The Warden of Purgatory was in his job for the money--it shouldn't be a major surprise that he decides to sell Shep out.
Politicians are in it either for the good of the people (hopefully) or the popularity/power, not money. Shepard is good for both.
She's not necessarily a hack. In ME1 especially, her concerns were legit (and ME3, for that matter). Just like Ashley's, I'd say. They're there to be antagonists to Paragons specifically. Bioware knows their main fanbase all too well, and how they'll do the "heroic"/noble thing if given the option. So they put those characters in to **** with them.
I'm getting off the point though.
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I'm unsure how exactly you think Ashley or Al-Jilani "****s" with me.
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I'm unsure how exactly you think Ashley or Al-Jilani "****s" with me.
Who gives a **** what you're unsure about.
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That's why I only punch her in ME2. I figure I'll just get one in while Shep isn't an actual military officer.
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You see, David, when a man and a women, or two, love each other very much.....David7204 wrote...
I'm unsure how exactly you think Ashley or Al-Jilani "****s" with me.
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StreetMagic wrote...
David7204 wrote...
I'm unsure how exactly you think Ashley or Al-Jilani "****s" with me.
Who gives a **** what you're unsure about.
You have learned well
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She's not necessarily a hack. In ME1 especially, her concerns were legit (and ME3, for that matter). Just like Ashley's, I'd say. They're there to be antagonists to Paragons specifically. Bioware knows their main fanbase all too well, and how they'll do the "heroic"/noble thing if given the option. So they put those characters in to **** with them.
I'm getting off the point though.
She's a hack because she's deliberately baiting Shepard. Some of her concerns are valid, sure. That doesn't mean her mannerism and interview style isn't the same as all lousy reporters--get your interviewee upset so they say something they didn't mean to say (or in Al-Jilani's case, do something as incredibly stupid and inane as punch you).
Though I disagree about Ashley. Being a Paragon doesn't mean you're ignorant to the real nature of "man" (or sapients in ME's case). She's not my antagonist at all.
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