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[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

I love these threads. Never change, BSN.

[canarius]

Melca36 wrote...

canarius wrote...

People will think the game takes place in a kitchen. Nobody will buy the game if they do that. It will bomb worse than DA2 if they use a female.

Guess you are in denial that 47% of gamers are now women. You obviously dont like us invading your mancave.

They said they would be using the female for the marketing awhile back. I doubt it will be for the box art but the woman will be seen in the marketing. I suggest you learn to deal with it

Well it was a joke so no need to get angry. But 47% of gamers being women is the funniest joke of all time so thanks for the laugh.

[wolfhowwl]

Melca36 wrote...

canarius wrote...

People will think the game takes place in a kitchen. Nobody will buy the game if they do that. It will bomb worse than DA2 if they use a female.

Guess you are in denial that 47% of gamers are now women. You obviously dont like us invading your mancave.

They said they would be using the female for the marketing awhile back. I doubt it will be for the box art but the woman will be seen in the marketing. I suggest you learn to deal with it

If there were really that many women buying Bioware games, I doubt they would have screwed over straight femshep for romances like they did in ME3.

Modifié par wolfhowwl, 12 septembre 2013 - 04:18 .

[Melca36]

Bionuts wrote...

Why not just put both on the cover?

Side by side! Thats a pretty good idea.

[TheBlackBaron]

[lady_v23]

Yeah... about 40% of gamers are female. Why is that so shocking? Move with the times people. Move with the times.

[Thiefy]

OLDIRTYBARON wrote...
Bull****. It sold six million copies. Capcom said it performed "below expectations," not that it didn't turn a profit or that it tanked like Aveline.

But please, go on. The amount of salt in your post could preserve an entire butcher shop. It's quite entertaining.

 

Followed by - 

J. Reezy wrote...

No, My Little Social Justice Crusader. It's not enough because it's still below Square Enix's sales expectation.

 

And there you have it folks.  RE6 gets a pass, Tomb Raider does not.

It's hypocritical. It's bull****. It's being called out.

[Melca36]

Game stats from this year

Game Player Data
Today's Gamers
30
The average age of today’s gamer.
13
The average number of years gamers have been playing.
68%
of gamers are age 18 or older.
45%
of gamers are female.
62%
of gamers play games with others, either in-person or online.
36%
of gamers play games on their smartphones.
25%
of gamers play on their wireless device.
Parents of Gamers
89%
of parents are present when games are purchased or rented.
88%
of parents feel that the Entertainment Software Rating Board rating system is helpful in choosing games for their children.
86%
of parents believe that the parental controls available in all new video game consoles are useful.
71%
of parents believe game play provides mental stimulation or education.
59%
of parents believe games encourage their family to spend to time together.
Data from ESA's 2013 Essential Facts About the Computer and Video Game Industry

[Seboist]

canarius wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

canarius wrote...

People will think the game takes place in a kitchen. Nobody will buy the game if they do that. It will bomb worse than DA2 if they use a female.

Guess you are in denial that 47% of gamers are now women. You obviously dont like us invading your mancave.

They said they would be using the female for the marketing awhile back. I doubt it will be for the box art but the woman will be seen in the marketing. I suggest you learn to deal with it

 But 47% of gamers being women is the funniest joke of all time so thanks for the laugh.

What makes it so funny is how people actually believe that.

'Cause that's plenty of women gamers in Starcraft and fighting game tournaments, Rofl.

[Melca36]

lady_v23 wrote...

Yeah... about 40% of gamers are female. Why is that so shocking? Move with the times people. Move with the times.

Because men feel violated. We're invading their fun space. And dont get me started on the men who play as women in Guild Wars 2 and have hit on me.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

J. Reezy is a sexist because Tomb Raider sales are below Square Enix's expectations.

The More You Know~

[canarius]

Vocal minority ladies on BSN are trying to trick Bioware into making the default Inquisitor a female by making up numbers. Here is a fact for you: More than 80% of Mass Effect 3 players played a male Shepard. Lol BSN is so funny sometimes

[OLDIRTYBARON]

Melca, you are aware that the ESA report you're touting does not discriminate "core" games from mobile apps and facebook flash games, yes?

[n7stormrunner]

Melca36 wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

Why not just put both on the cover?

Side by side! Thats a pretty good idea.

or a two sided cover like me 3... but those are  reasonable options and this is the bsn those don't get talked about

[d-boy15]

You believe in 47% female gamer but think 18% Femshep is bulls_it?

[Melca36]

canarius wrote...

Vocal minority ladies on BSN are trying to trick Bioware into making the default Inquisitor a female by making up numbers. Here is a fact for you: More than 80% of Mass Effect 3 players played a male Shepard. Lol BSN is so funny sometimes

So? Its still 2013 and women have the right to be represented in games. There will NEVER be a default female character but they are NOT going to get rid of it.  We will still have the choice to play as a woman.

Why do some of you feel so threatened?

[lady_v23]

@Seboist yes! Because this is all a huge conspiracy from the NSA. So men can become women, and women can become men!

Pff! Female gamers!? Ho! what a funny joke! Maybe 60 years later, in the 21 century... oh wait.

[Melca36]

n7stormrunner wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

Why not just put both on the cover?

Side by side! Thats a pretty good idea.

or a two sided cover like me 3... but those are  reasonable options and this is the bsn those don't get talked about

I would like that too.  

[syllogi]

EntropicAngel wrote...

syllogi wrote...

I'd love it if they released statistics for DA:O and DA2 the way they did for ME2 & 3, but since they haven't, yeah, we can't assume anything about who plays Dragon Age games.  I don't doubt that more guys play than women, but we can't assume that they're all playing male characters, or that they'd be adverse to seeing female characters in advertising.

I'm pretty sure this thread is *just* about marketing the game, right?  It seems like these types of threads always veer into "boys rule, girls drool" territory pretty fast.  I just want a wicked cool poster with a female elf, dwarf, or qunari Inquisitor on it.  I'm pretty sure catering to my uterus in such a manner will not decrease sales of DA:I.

But will it do anything to increase sales, that's the question.

Will it make people think "great, you can play a male OR female!" or will it make people think "what is this Dragon Age? Last time it was a guy, this time it's a girl. That's all wishy-washy, no thanks."

The question isn't where it will do harm, it's whether it will do benefit.

Seriously, I keep seeing that argument, and it really sounds like "guys are too dumb to understand that this game has a character creator, but women can deal with it."  Which I don't believe you believe, much less anyone else using this line of thought.

DA:O sold more copies than DA2, and there were posters and trailers with female Wardens being promoted.  Nobody freaked out, no sales were lost.  If I get my poster with a female qunari on it, I am *positive* that you, Entropic Angel, will not suddenly get woozy and forget that you can make a male character in this game.  It'll be okay.

If anything hurts DA:I's sales, it will be things like the rep it will carry from DA2 and ME3.  It won't be a marketing campaign that shows off female characters along side Generic White Human Male with a bit of stubble (because let's be real, he's not going away).

[TheBlackBaron]

n7stormrunner wrote...

or a two sided cover like me 3... but those are  reasonable options and this is the bsn those don't get talked about

Most of us would prefer one without a protagonist, like DA:O, given that this is an RPG and is supposed to be about shaping our own character.

That doesn't Fight The Power enough though.

[Inquisitor Recon]

I get the sense Melca36 is one of those guys/girls who joins a server and is like "Hey everybody I'm a girl!" just to generate a reaction that they can use.

[Seboist]

d-boy15 wrote...

You believe in 47% female gamer but think 18% Femshep is bulls_it?

I'd like to know where all these "47%" female gamers are in my area 'cause I can't recall the last time I walked into a gamestop or the gaming section of best buy and saw a dame that wasn't a mother with her little boy.