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[Kalas Magnus]

KBomb wrote...

It's just my opinion, but I wish social agendas and political correctness would just stay out of video games.

yes. i agree.

[Kalas Magnus]

Jayne126 wrote...

I agree, a female protagonist as promotional figure has great ways for marketing. BW should learn a trick or two from japanese developers like this:

I think the FemInq is a great way to reach a wider audience, so it's two birds with one stone.
Perfect.

i think having advertising like that is worse than  no female representation

[Wulfram]

Dragon Age already has that sort of promotion

[Doveberry]

Jayne126 wrote...

Nonsense, this is perfect.

That's not a female protagonist. That's a pair of boobs. I'd ask you how you expect pictures like that to make female gamers feel that they have been given equal representation, but somehow I'm pretty sure that's not something that you care about in the least.

[Nightdragon8]

here is an idea, have no characters on the box art and everyone wins. Just use the cloaked figure with the inquisition symbol. in it. tho i think they may wanna do a test to make sure Ubisoft doesn't file a lawsuit or infringement.

[saga56]

they showed a lot of stuff with morrigan..... does that count??

[Teddie Sage]

They could always do what they did for ME3 and give players the option to flip the cover for a female protagonist; if players insist that much. I always considered the protagonists to be gender neutral, anyways. Whenever I played my Wardens, Hawkes and Shepards, I noticed that most dialogues were the same except of a few exceptions in the romances here and there. Both male and female dialogues share the same tones.

Having a male protagonist on the cover of your game isn't that bad if you know the writers already respect gender equality and sexual orientations of players.

This will probably start a whole debate over FemShep's lack of true love interests and the fact that everyone turned out to be pansexual in Dragon Age II, but that's not what I'm talking about.

I'm telling you here, that it shouldn't matter whether the protagonist on the cover is male or female at all. Heck, wouldn't mind if the game cover didn't had the Inquisitor at all. This would solve some issues.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 11 septembre 2013 - 12:42 .

[Navasha]

Kalas Magnus wrote...

KBomb wrote...

It's just my opinion, but I wish social agendas and political correctness would just stay out of video games.

yes. i agree.

Will agree with this whole-heartedly.    Video games are all about escapism from the reality where this kind of bickering and nonsense takes place.   We want to be entertained by a great product, not expect some political or social statement from a company.    

[MiyoKit]

So long as I can play a woman in the game, especially one who is just as covered up as her male counterparts, I don't mind what the marketing is like. It would be nice to have female representation but, in the end, its what they're like in the game that matters. One of the reasons I like Bioware is because their female characters aren't ridiculously sexualised, its also one of the reasons I can't stand Jrpgs. So long as they keep on doing that they can market it however they want.

[Legbiter]

The Inquisitor should be a fat pansexual otherkin tranny who self-identifies as postgendered.

[simpatikool]

I like the idea of the Female option as the 'default' choice. However, I fail to see how this supports the argument of "Making a powerful statement". how do you define that as a powerful statement?

[Taura-Tierno]

krul2k wrote...

It's perception, if i pick up a dvd and on the cover its all woman i put the dvd back an go meh not for me, but thats movies and not gaming but i think the perception is still there, it's upto the gaming industry to change it an not go the same route as every other media stereotype but tbh its prob to late the now and it be a slow process

I don't think that's true about video games. Not if it's a GOOD cover, and the game has hype already. The Last of Us features a female character in a much more prominent manner than the guy, and, I mean ... that game sold. Like crazy.

Upcoming game Beyond: Two Souls will feature a woman on the cover (and it is also a very hyped game).

Modifié par Taura-Tierno, 11 septembre 2013 - 12:50 .

[Taura-Tierno]

Also: personally, I think either a gender-neutral cover for DA:I or something along the lines of having one character, half split as male, half as female, would be great.

I still question the argument that women on covers means lower sales. Numbers seem to state the opposite.

[Doveberry]

Jayne126 wrote...
Who said it's supposed to be targeting female gamers? Wider audience can mean a lot.

Can't handle the mass?

You woudn't reach a wider audience with a pair of boobs. You'd reach the same one as before. I have a sneaking suspicion that you're a white man, by the way. Privilege has a funny way of making one blind to other people's problems.

Modifié par Doveberry, 11 septembre 2013 - 01:00 .

[mikeymoonshine]

Kalas Magnus wrote...

KBomb wrote...

It's just my opinion, but I wish social agendas and political correctness would just stay out of video games.

yes. i agree.

I think there is a real problem here and I would blame Feminism or at least some of the Femenists for making this kinda debate Toxic. 

I can't say I would like a female protag, or a non white protag, or gay people in the game or nin cis gendered people without someone assuming I am some some PC war path. 

There is a defensiveness where people assume by saying this that you have a problem with games that do not have these things. People seem to immediately label you as one of those Anita Sarkeesian type people who hates everything that doesn't fit in their narrow view of what is acceptable. 

So let me make this clear, I just like it when games do things differently. It's a shame that devs have to have the straight, Alpha male protag in every game just cause they fear that they will lose sales if they don't. 

I think the industry is mistaken and that there is still a market for games that don't conform but if the carry on doing that then fine. Bioware is doing enough as it is so I am certainly not complaining. 

[ManOfSteel]

I really don't see why it matters. You know that females are represented in the game, as do I and everyone else here. Their marketing should be aimed at those that may not be aware or interested in the game, not at people that are actively following the game like us.

Modifié par DoomHK, 11 septembre 2013 - 01:04 .

[Eternal Phoenix]

For the love of God, stop using "Fem!" or "Male!" when referring to the gender of Bioware's protagonists.

"Male!Shepard"
"Fem!Shepard"

JC...so annoying. Is it really too hard to write, "the male Shepard" or "the female Shepard" BSN?

[Xilizhra]

I think there is a real problem here and I would blame Feminism or at least some of the Femenists for making this kinda debate Toxic.

I can't say I would like a female protag, or a non white protag, or gay people in the game or nin cis gendered people without someone assuming I am some some PC war path.

That's the fault of the idiots making unsupported assumptions.