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[JasonPogo]

Since there is a chance Fiona will be in DAI and Gaider apparintly saying Alistair's birth times up with The Calling I hope to God they don't make Alistair Fiona's kid.  At the end of The Calling Fiona's one wish is for her son to know nothing about his parents and being royal blood or Warden stuff.  Duncan takes the baby and says he will see to it.  So if the baby turns out to be Alistair Duncan did a ****** poor job of it...  Alistair always knew he was of Royal blood.  And then Duncan came and turned him into a Warden something Fiona kinda hated.  Just seems to me if alistair is Fiona's kid she would be mighty pissed at everyone she knew back then...

[90s Kai]

That that plan pretty much went to sh** then....

But seriously, I don't think Fiona nor Duncan could have foreseen that how all this royal stuff would go down. Especially during the Blight with the civil war going on. Ferelden needed to be united against the darkspwn and Alistair was the only one left with Theirin blood. And being made a Warden, eh, well Duncan did feel pity on Alistair because he wasn't happy living in the Chantry. But maybe Duncan did somehow see that Alistair was needed (giant rats,had to be how he knew) so making him a Warden put him on the map(?). I'm kinda grasping at straws on that last bit. But in the endgame (depending on your Warden's choices) Alistair was a Grey Warden and rose up to be king. And a good king according to the epilogue.So I guess in a twisted kind of way it worked out for everyone.

Maybe.

[TTTX]

JasonPogo wrote...

Since there is a chance Fiona will be in DAI and Gaider apparintly saying Alistair's birth times up with The Calling I hope to God they don't make Alistair Fiona's kid.  At the end of The Calling Fiona's one wish is for her son to know nothing about his parents and being royal blood or Warden stuff.  Duncan takes the baby and says he will see to it.  So if the baby turns out to be Alistair Duncan did a ****** poor job of it...  Alistair always knew he was of Royal blood.  And then Duncan came and turned him into a Warden something Fiona kinda hated.  Just seems to me if alistair is Fiona's kid she would be mighty pissed at everyone she knew back then...

What do you think Fiona would say if her son (assuming Alistair is her son) turned into a Templar?

From what I have read she isn't fond of Templars.

[Little Princess Peach]

TTTX wrote...

JasonPogo wrote...

Since there is a chance Fiona will be in DAI and Gaider apparintly saying Alistair's birth times up with The Calling I hope to God they don't make Alistair Fiona's kid.  At the end of The Calling Fiona's one wish is for her son to know nothing about his parents and being royal blood or Warden stuff.  Duncan takes the baby and says he will see to it.  So if the baby turns out to be Alistair Duncan did a ****** poor job of it...  Alistair always knew he was of Royal blood.  And then Duncan came and turned him into a Warden something Fiona kinda hated.  Just seems to me if alistair is Fiona's kid she would be mighty pissed at everyone she knew back then...

What do you think Fiona would say if her son (assuming Alistair is her son) turned into a Templar?

From what I have read she isn't fond of Templars.

She would be conflicted yes, but if Alistair is her son she would love him no matter what and he likes mages and gets on with them so I see no problem, and on the note of templars he never finished his training so he never became a templar

[bluemadame]

If she is his mother, I hope she takes that information with her to the grave. If Alistair has a weakness, it's family. She could use that to manipulate him into gaining support. It would also hurt for people to discover that his mother is not only an elf but the grand enchanter.

Modifié par Riversong, 11 septembre 2013 - 01:45 .

[Navasha]

Personally, I think they should keep all the comic book stuff sidelined from the games. Otherwise they are going to have to include a few pretty in-depth codex entries that explains what they are trying to do or say half the time.

[Potato Cat]

From another, similar thread:

Elfman wrote...

"The people I love are here - Cailan, your mother,"
"Your mother and I wanted to spare you this life,"

All sounds like he knew her pretty well. Not just a one night stand with a star struck maid.

I think Alistair is definitely Fiona's son, but as Alistair seems to think, Duncan took pity on him in the Templars. She'd want her son to be happy more than anything, as would Maric, and he is genuinely happy in the Wardens, (bar the Ostagar fiasco).

[leaguer of one]

Riversong wrote...

If she is his mother, I hope she takes that information with her to the grave. If Alistair has a weakness, it's family. She could use that to manipulate him into gaining support. It would also hurt for people to discover that his mother is not only an elf but the grand enchanter.

He already supports the mages.

[leaguer of one]

Navasha wrote...

Personally, I think they should keep all the comic book stuff sidelined from the games. Otherwise they are going to have to include a few pretty in-depth codex entries that explains what they are trying to do or say half the time.

1. It's from a book.
2. DA already brought things from the books into the story.

[Clockwork_Wings]

It would be my guess that if she's in the game, either we'll get a definite one way or the other...or a very strong hint.

My question then becomes: who is Goldana? She was pretty sure her mom's baby was the king's, and Alistair very sure she was his sister. So...was Goldana mistaken, and Alistair told his mother was a maid to keep him from looking for Fiona? Was there another baby, sent elsewhere? How deep does the rabbit hole go?

[leaguer of one]

Clockwork_Wings wrote...

It would be my guess that if she's in the game, either we'll get a definite one way or the other...or a very strong hint.

My question then becomes: who is Goldana? She was pretty sure her mom's baby was the king's, and Alistair very sure she was his sister. So...was Goldana mistaken, and Alistair told his mother was a maid to keep him from looking for Fiona? Was there another baby, sent elsewhere? How deep does the rabbit hole go?

My guess , some random Maid who was pregnat at the time Alistar was presented as a baby who died while giving birth to her child with the child dying with her. She was a lie to cover the turth.

[Thomas Andresen]

If Fiona is an elf(I wouldn't know, since I haven't read the books or the comics), she cannot be Alistair's mother. Alistair isn't half-elf.

[leaguer of one]

Thomas Andresen wrote...

If Fiona is an elf(I wouldn't know, since I haven't read the books or the comics), she cannot be Alistair's mother. Alistair isn't half-elf.

OF the last time. In Dragon age....Elf +Human= Human  with a chance of some elvine features.
There are no half elves. And they are called half bloods.

[Xsari Rose]

Just because the timeline fits with Alistair's birth doesn't prove anything. A man can get two women pregnant at roughly the same time. Maric could have slept with Alistair's mother the night before he went off with the wardens. There is a third son, possibly more and some daughters judging by Maric's reputation.

[Clockwork_Wings]

Xsari Rose wrote...

Just because the timeline fits with Alistair's birth doesn't prove anything. A man can get two women pregnant at roughly the same time. Maric could have slept with Alistair's mother the night before he went off with the wardens. There is a third son, possibly more and some daughters judging by Maric's reputation.

I think I kinda wanna see that, really.

Alistair:  FINALLY!  I don't have to be king anymore!  I've got thirty or forty siblings to leave the kingdom to!

Although he's warmed up to it by 2.

Modifié par Clockwork_Wings, 11 septembre 2013 - 03:30 .

[cjones91]

Xsari Rose wrote...

Just because the timeline fits with Alistair's birth doesn't prove anything. A man can get two women pregnant at roughly the same time. Maric could have slept with Alistair's mother the night before he went off with the wardens. There is a third son, possibly more and some daughters judging by Maric's reputation.

Then explain why Duncan knew that Fiona was pregnant with Marric's child and years later decided to recruit Alistair into the Grey Wardens?You may wish to deny it but the pieces fit with Alistair being Fiona's son and Duncan deciding to look after him,of course there may be more Therin kids but I doubt Alistair is the son of some random woman.

Modifié par cjones91, 11 septembre 2013 - 03:30 .

[leaguer of one]

Xsari Rose wrote...

Just because the timeline fits with Alistair's birth doesn't prove anything. A man can get two women pregnant at roughly the same time. Maric could have slept with Alistair's mother the night before he went off with the wardens. There is a third son, possibly more and some daughters judging by Maric's reputation.

You do know that Maric was still in a depression over his dead wife before going with the Wardens...

[ScarMK]

Thomas Andresen wrote...

If Fiona is an elf(I wouldn't know, since I haven't read the books or the comics), she cannot be Alistair's mother. Alistair isn't half-elf.

Elves are used to being surppressed so their genes do too.  Human + elf = Elf blooded human.  Slim couldry (From Origins) is an elf blooded human.

[Former_Fiend]

leaguer of one wrote...

Xsari Rose wrote...

Just because the timeline fits with Alistair's birth doesn't prove anything. A man can get two women pregnant at roughly the same time. Maric could have slept with Alistair's mother the night before he went off with the wardens. There is a third son, possibly more and some daughters judging by Maric's reputation.

You do know that Maric was still in a depression over his dead wife before going with the Wardens...

Maybe it's just me, but I find I'm more likely to go for meaningless sex  while I'm going through a depression than when I'm not.

[DarthLaxian]

Tharja wrote...

She would be conflicted yes, but if Alistair is her son she would love him no matter what and he likes mages and gets on with them so I see no problem, and on the note of templars he never finished his training so he never became a templar

why would she be "conflicted" - she would love him IMHO (yes, he has templar training, so yes, in a way he is a Templar - a fully trained one, but he doesn't buy into their BS IMHO and he never officially joined their order - that happens after you finish training and while he probably did that, Duncan came along before he took his vows! As for being a grey-warden: Well, he WANTED that - rather then stay at the chantry, were the head-priestess disliked/hated him (maybe she knew of his past - and of course she probably knew, that he wasn't buying all the indoctrination (it never took root IMHO) and BS the chantry spouts to turn the recruits into Zealots...and he hasn't been given Drugs (Lyrium!) yet, so they can't controll him!) - why would she hold that against him?...sorry, but my parents would not do such a thing, even if i did something they dislike to get out of a bad situation (and in a way Fiona is "guilty" of all that happening to him, if he is indeed her son (which i would love by the way) because she didn't raise him (she might have had good intentions, but they IMHO royally backfired because she probably would not have wanted her son to be sent to the chantry (lucky for her - he is not a Zealot and even calls the chantry out on its BS (he questions the use of Lyrium to controll the templars amongst other things...))

the only problem i could see is, that he has abandonment issues (and rightly so, he has been lied to his entire life!) and that he doesn't take well to questioning the wardens (my characters often did and he didn't like that much) - which Fiona does, not only after "The Calling") but that probably would not keep them from talking and maybe liking each other

greetings LAX
ps: as long as they don't make him like her sexually at first and then finding out she's his mother...kind of like Luke and Leia on Star Wars...(i thought they might make a great couple and then the "she's your sister"-stuff happens...man was i freaked, routing for them to become a couple (as much as i like Han Solo, i don't think he would make a good husband - the extended universe practically makes him OOC for this IMHO!))

[Mr.House]

If Fiona is in DAO, I hope we can kill her, same with Adrian. Also I hope Alistair if he chooses a faction chooses it on his beliefs, not because of his mommy.

[ScarMK]

Mr.House wrote...

If Fiona is in DAI, I hope we can kill her, same with Adrian. Also I hope Alistair if he chooses a faction chooses it on his beliefs, not because of his mommy.

i hate to say it, but you know an unhardened Alistair will side with mommy.

[Mr.House]

ScarMK wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

If Fiona is in DAI, I hope we can kill her, same with Adrian. Also I hope Alistair if he chooses a faction chooses it on his beliefs, not because of his mommy.

i hate to say it, but you know an unhardened Alistair will side with mommy.

That's why you harden him.

[Xsari Rose]

cjones91 wrote...

Xsari Rose wrote...

Just because the timeline fits with Alistair's birth doesn't prove anything. A man can get two women pregnant at roughly the same time. Maric could have slept with Alistair's mother the night before he went off with the wardens. There is a third son, possibly more and some daughters judging by Maric's reputation.

Then explain why Duncan knew that Fiona was pregnant with Marric's child and years later decided to recruit Alistair into the Grey Wardens?You may wish to deny it but the pieces fit with Alistair being Fiona's son and Duncan deciding to look after him,of course there may be more Therin kids but I doubt Alistair is the son of some random woman.

I can't, haven't read the book. Nor will I ever as it sounds like it really messes up Biowares original DA lore. Sounds like Gaider overlooked a lot of Origins just to try to make his story a bit more interesting. I won't believe Fiona is Alistair's mother untill its 100% proven. If it turns out to be true I'll be annoyed for a bit but won't let it ruin the rest of the franchise for me.

[ScarMK]

Mr.House wrote...

That's why you harden him.

That implies Alistair being hardened or not is actually accounted for.