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[Magdalena11]

 It's 9/11.  To those whose lives were touched - a salute.  We will not forget.

[Bionuts]

I'm supposed to believe you care about the deaths of strangers?

[Eurypterid]

Bionuts wrote...

I'm supposed to believe you care about the deaths of strangers?

Cared enough to remember and post.

[Magdalena11]

They weren't strangers. My piano teacher's next-door neighbor was trapped on the 105th floor. On 9/12 about 10% of the appointments at the pediatric practice I was working at weren't kept because of the death of a parent. They were people with lives and all that.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Bionuts wrote...

I'm supposed to believe you care about the deaths of strangers?

Go out.

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I was almost 14 and my life somehow started worsening since.

RIP anyway.

Modifié par Kaiser Arian, 11 septembre 2013 - 02:12 .

[luna1124]

Geeze @Bionuts What is wrong with you?

[MarchWaltz]

9/11 is the first historic thing I actually lived through. Like, if a kid comes up to me and asks what 9/11 is, I could tell them I was there. In 7th grade, wondering what the hell happened.

[Magdalena11]

It was an iconic event for all of us. Because of our strategic location, the US is protected from most attacks. We've got an ocean on each side after all. 9/11 showed us that we are vulnerable and that's a scarey thought. I'm not crazy about having to leave my shampoo at home if I travel and there have been blatant abuses of the system. The tears on my face attest to the fact that it's still real.

[Bionuts]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

I will say in here the same I said in the earlier (misplaced) thread:

No single historic event should be attributed special recognition past the historic relevance of remembering and learning.
My condolences to people that lost their lifes and their relatives and friends who lost family/friends.
But bringing this up every year for now over a decade as if it was something that changed the world (which it didn't!) is wrong.


And not only wrong but generally hypocritical, as there's millions of people right now, this very moment, that suffer crisis, droughts, famine, sickness and from those people, again millions suffer all that for most, if not all of their lifes.


I am not an emotional cripple, but this 9/11 yaddayadda is plain wrong.

Agreed.

Let's not forget that America is also responsble for the deaths of many innocent people in other countries. Sick and tired of this whole victim mindset people want to have.

[Magdalena11]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

I will say in here the same I said in the earlier (misplaced) thread:

No single historic event should be attributed special recognition past the historic relevance of remembering and learning.
My condolences to people that lost their lifes and their relatives and friends who lost family/friends.
But bringing this up every year for now over a decade as if it was something that changed the world (which it didn't!) is wrong.


And not only wrong but generally hypocritical, as there's millions of people right now, this very moment, that suffer crisis, droughts, famine, sickness and from those people, again millions suffer all that for most, if not all of their lifes.


I am not an emotional cripple, but this 9/11 yaddayadda is plain wrong.

All I'm asking is that you remember.  You have.

[kobayashi-maru]

I think now with the passage of time that to non Americans it is a sad event but not a huge thing because there have been other disasters/terrorists events in those countries for decades. It's important to the US because it was the first time Americans where really attacked on the civilian home front.

Maybe this thread shouldn't exist though due to the inevitable controversy it will draw from certain groups. Even I have certain views about the aftermath I don't think are appropriate on the anniversary - US funding to IRA etc

So I'm just going to say to those who lost someone on that day you have my deepest sympathies.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

Well, I'm not citizen from the US, but they have my condolescences and my sympathies

Also, 9/11 already? I mean, time flies nowadays...

[luna1124]

I am an American and I have nothing to do with what USA military does. I can't just waltz in the white house and tell them they are doing things that bother me. @Bionuts you are a troll and just trying to upset people on here. Go to a different topic if you are so filled with hate, I'm sure there are hate topics on the internet someplace for people like you.

[Bionuts]

People remember it, because everyone else does. Why remember this specific day? Why not others? Because in truth, people couldn't care less about the 9/11 victims. It's just another thing to latch onto to feel connected to other people. Just as people who wear what others are wearing, and listen to the same thing others are.

People die all the time. I saw my own brother's corpse, because policeman were too lazy to look for the body themselves. I don't even remember the day my brother died, nor do I care to. Another day, another death. Zero interest in making a holiday out of it.

In reality, it's a mockery to 9/11 victims. That people who - deep down, in all reality - don't care, use their deaths as some sort of sideshow.

[Bionuts]

luna1124 wrote...

Go to a different topic if you are so filled with hate

I'm not filled with hate. However, I greatly dislike this 9/11 sideshow.

[luna1124]

It is a memorial. Like all the horrific tragedy's in this world, I remember them all. ALL of them. I didn't know anyone in Rwanda either, or the holocaust (although it affected my family roots in Poland, and the reason I was eventually born in the US), but these murders upset my soul. And they are all murders. Thou shalt not kill, but killing is one of man-kinds favorite past-times.

[Bionuts]

luna1124 wrote...

It is a memorial. Like all the horrific tragedy's in this world, I remember them all. ALL of them. I didn't know anyone in Rwanda either, or the holocaust (although it affected my family roots in Poland, and the reason I was eventually born in the US), but these murders upset my soul. And they are all murders. Thou shalt not kill, but killing is one of man-kinds favorite past-times.

I can respect that.

[Magdalena11]

Bionuts, when I was 19 years old I had to identify the body of my husband of 5 months because his head wasn't on and his ID was blown away from his body. The cops and all wished they didn't have to do it but there wasn't any other way. That was a while before 9/11. Personal tragedy is sad and it happens and you move on.9/11 was a national tragedy. I can't even say how you could move on. If you want a peeing match, you'll lose. This is important. Remember.

[Bionuts]

I can move one, because death happens all the time. We all get used to it.

I'm not a sociopath, but have very little feeling towards these things, anymore.

[Magdalena11]

Bionuts wrote...

I can move one, because death happens all the time. We all get used to it.

I'm not a sociopath, but have very little feeling towards these things, anymore.

I'm sorry.

[luna1124]

^^Very moving^^
This particular terrorist attack affected the whole world, not just the USA. The economy has not yet recovered. We don't need to dwell on these tragedies, but we DO need to remember them. I am done ranting now.