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[Rocket Drone]

I have my femshep and I decided to go back to my ME2 save and romance either Thane or Garrus. I know that during ME3, Thane dies, but what happens to Shepard and Garrus at the end (not the romance scene, but the end result)?

**edit: even if I keep Shepard alive with enough ems and galactic readiness?

Modifié par Rocket Drone, 11 septembre 2013 - 05:08 .

[Sir DeLoria]

They stay together till the ending.

[RZIBARA]

Shepard dies. So yeah, not really together.

[Sir DeLoria]

RZIBARA wrote...

Shepard dies. So yeah, not really together.

High EMS Destroy.

[RZIBARA]

Necanor wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Shepard dies. So yeah, not really together.

High EMS Destroy.

No he doesn't live. If a 5 second clip of someone taking a breath under a pile of rubble means they live, then i call bullsh*t. Either make a sequel with Shepard in it, or give is a proper scene where shepard reunites with his crew (MEHEM ftw). 

Otherwise, yes shepard is dead to me

[andy6915]

RZIBARA wrote...

Necanor wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Shepard dies. So yeah, not really together.

High EMS Destroy.

No he doesn't live. If a 5 second clip of someone taking a breath under a pile of rubble means they live, then i call bullsh*t. Either make a sequel with Shepard in it, or give is a proper scene where shepard reunites with his crew (MEHEM ftw). 

Otherwise, yes shepard is dead to me

So because you don't want Shepard to be alive then Shepard is dead, and because he wants Shepard alive then Shepard is alive? Neither are confirmed, so both of you believe what you want because neither will convince the other.

[Sir DeLoria]

RZIBARA wrote...

Necanor wrote...

RZIBARA wrote..
Shepard dies. So yeah, not really together.

High EMS Destroy.

No he doesn't live. If a 5 second clip of someone taking a breath under a pile of rubble means they live, then i call bullsh*t. Either make a sequel with Shepard in it, or give is a proper scene where shepard reunites with his crew (MEHEM ftw). 

Otherwise, yes shepard is dead to me

As far as I know, he's flagged as being alive in the script in that particular ending. But it's essentially supposed to be an open ending.

Modifié par Necanor, 11 septembre 2013 - 05:15 .

[RZIBARA]

Necanor wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Necanor wrote...

RZIBARA wrote..
Shepard dies. So yeah, not really together.

High EMS Destroy.

No he doesn't live. If a 5 second clip of someone taking a breath under a pile of rubble means they live, then i call bullsh*t. Either make a sequel with Shepard in it, or give is a proper scene where shepard reunites with his crew (MEHEM ftw). 

Otherwise, yes shepard is dead to me

As far as I know, he's flagged as being alive in the script in that particular ending. I'm pretty sure BW confirmed his survival sometime. But I doubt they'll make a sequel.

which is why he's basically dead. If there's no scene of him reuniting, and there's no plan to make a sequel, He's basically dead.

[RZIBARA]

andy69156915 wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Necanor wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Shepard dies. So yeah, not really together.

High EMS Destroy.

No he doesn't live. If a 5 second clip of someone taking a breath under a pile of rubble means they live, then i call bullsh*t. Either make a sequel with Shepard in it, or give is a proper scene where shepard reunites with his crew (MEHEM ftw). 

Otherwise, yes shepard is dead to me

So because you don't want Shepard to be alive then Shepard is dead, and because he wants Shepard alive then Shepard is alive? Neither are confirmed, so both of you believe what you want because neither will convince the other.

who said I dont want hin to be alive? I'm stating that he is pretty much dead, because there's no real evidence that he is alive other a short 5 second clip that is meaningless without a sequel

[Sir DeLoria]

RZIBARA wrote...

Necanor wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

No he doesn't live. If a 5 second clip of someone taking a breath under a pile of rubble means they live, then i call bullsh*t. Either make a sequel with Shepard in it, or give is a proper scene where shepard reunites with his crew (MEHEM ftw). 

Otherwise, yes shepard is dead to me

As far as I know, he's flagged as being alive in the script in that particular ending. I'm pretty sure BW confirmed his survival sometime. But I doubt they'll make a sequel.

which is why he's basically dead. If there's no scene of him reuniting, and there's no plan to make a sequel, He's basically dead.

It's supposed to be open and serve as a base for headcannon. I don't like it either, just have to accept what's there.

[RZIBARA]

Necanor wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

which is why he's basically dead. If there's no scene of him reuniting, and there's no plan to make a sequel, He's basically dead.

It's supposed to be open and serve as a base for headcannon. I don't like it either, just have to accept what's there.

no thank you. I'll accept what I see, and that's about it. Head cannon to me is pointless. Especially something like that. I dont want to have to imagine something like that, I want to actually see it.  which is why its bullshit. 

Modifié par RZIBARA, 11 septembre 2013 - 05:27 .

[Merc Mama]

Garrus is worth it all the way to ending, his goodybe, his expanded romance in the Citadel DLC.
You do stay together till the end and Garrus is seen removing/or not putting up Shepard's nameplate on the memorial wall in the Normandy, meaning she/he maybe alive. Besides that he's one of the few that stay very loyal relationship wise.

[Iakus]

Based on the final conversation, Garrus is pretty much convinced one or both of them is gonna die really soon.

The ending does little to dissuade that opinion

[SiniisteR]

RZIBARA wrote...

Necanor wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

which is why he's basically dead. If there's no scene of him reuniting, and there's no plan to make a sequel, He's basically dead.

It's supposed to be open and serve as a base for headcannon. I don't like it either, just have to accept what's there.

no thank you. I'll accept what I see, and that's about it. Head cannon to me is pointless. Especially something like that. I dont want to have to imagine something like that, I want to actually see it.  which is why its bullshit. 

It needs to be open for speculation so you can decide what happens next, since not everyone would want the same epilogue of what happened after they found Shepard, although I do agree that there could have been more to the breath scene.

[RZIBARA]

SiniisteR wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Necanor wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

which is why he's basically dead. If there's no scene of him reuniting, and there's no plan to make a sequel, He's basically dead.

It's supposed to be open and serve as a base for headcannon. I don't like it either, just have to accept what's there.

no thank you. I'll accept what I see, and that's about it. Head cannon to me is pointless. Especially something like that. I dont want to have to imagine something like that, I want to actually see it.  which is why its bullshit. 

It needs to be open for speculation so you can decide what happens next, since not everyone would want the same epilogue of what happened after they found Shepard, although I do agree that there could have been more to the breath scene.

Im almost 100% certain most of the players would prefer i scene with shepard reuniting with the crew and LI. Why do you think MEHEM is so popular (and if I remember correctly everyone gets the same epilogue)? People who would be pissed about getting this type of scene would be simply complaining for the sake of complaining

[AlexMBrennan]

Common sense 101: If Bioware had intended for high EMS to result in Shepard's death then they would not have made a clip of him alive.
Even if Shepard is never shown again in the MEEU then it still allows for canon-compliant headcanon.

[Iakus]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Common sense 101: If Bioware had intended for high EMS to result in Shepard's death then they would not have made a clip of him alive.
Even if Shepard is never shown again in the MEEU then it still allows for canon-compliant headcanon.

Yeah and if making Anderson a Councilor wasn't meant to be significant, they never would have showed him making a big heroic speech at the end of ME1.

Wait...

[RZIBARA]

iakus wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Common sense 101: If Bioware had intended for high EMS to result in Shepard's death then they would not have made a clip of him alive.
Even if Shepard is never shown again in the MEEU then it still allows for canon-compliant headcanon.

Yeah and if making Anderson a Councilor wasn't meant to be significant, they never would have showed him making a big heroic speech at the end of ME1.

Wait...

ROFL

[RZIBARA]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Common sense 101: If Bioware had intended for high EMS to result in Shepard's death then they would not have made a clip of him alive.
Even if Shepard is never shown again in the MEEU then it still allows for canon-compliant headcanon.

either implement shepard being alive properly or don't implement in at all

Modifié par RZIBARA, 11 septembre 2013 - 07:05 .

[Reorte]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Common sense 101: If Bioware had intended for high EMS to result in Shepard's death then they would not have made a clip of him alive.
Even if Shepard is never shown again in the MEEU then it still allows for canon-compliant headcanon.

If they had intended that Shepard is alive they'd have shown something that requires more than second-guessing the writers and scenes that only tell you anything because they wouldn't be in otherwise, not because of their content. And if it's about "headcanon what you like" (even though you can get unambiguously dead if you want) then that's just hopeless. Hand a key issue, the fate of the protagonist, over to fanfic?

Anyway, as much as I despise this whole issue apologies for continuing off-topic.

[wright1978]

RZIBARA wrote...

SiniisteR wrote...

It needs to be open for speculation so you can decide what happens next, since not everyone would want the same epilogue of what happened after they found Shepard, although I do agree that there could have been more to the breath scene.

Im almost 100% certain most of the players would prefer i scene with shepard reuniting with the crew and LI. Why do you think MEHEM is so popular (and if I remember correctly everyone gets the same epilogue)? People who would be pissed about getting this type of scene would be simply complaining for the sake of complaining

Yeah MEHEM shows how it is perfectly possible to have a memorial with Live Shep present which provides rewarding/satisfying content instead of insulting content like the breath scene being left tagged on the end.

[Br3admax]

Well to get back to what the OP actually asked.

You fall in love with a bird/bug/whatthehellever. Congratulations.

[RZIBARA]

wright1978 wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

SiniisteR wrote...

It needs to be open for speculation so you can decide what happens next, since not everyone would want the same epilogue of what happened after they found Shepard, although I do agree that there could have been more to the breath scene.

Im almost 100% certain most of the players would prefer i scene with shepard reuniting with the crew and LI. Why do you think MEHEM is so popular (and if I remember correctly everyone gets the same epilogue)? People who would be pissed about getting this type of scene would be simply complaining for the sake of complaining

Yeah MEHEM shows how it is perfectly possible to have a memorial with Live Shep present which provides rewarding/satisfying content instead of insulting content like the breath scene being left tagged on the end.

i guess getting a scene where shepard breaths under a pile of rubble is more satisfying to some people.

HOW? I will never EVER know

[RZIBARA]

@OP

No matter what you do, you're not getting closure in your romance unless you download MEHEM on your PC

That is if you even have one

Modifié par RZIBARA, 11 septembre 2013 - 08:41 .

[TNT1991]

To answer OP:



This (before run to the beam)..

With extended cut and high EMS Destroy : This (running to the beam) and This (memorial wall) 



On the topic  on whether Shepard lived or not, I personally don't care anymore (mostly because I chose MEHEM+Citadel ). 

Modifié par TNT1991, 11 septembre 2013 - 10:05 .