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[CosmicGnosis]

I've never played through the Dalish Origin, but I remember reading a lot of criticism about it. Generally, people thought it was too detached from and irrelevant to the DA:O plot. Ironically, it is probably the most important to the overall Dragon Age plot. It introduces the Eluvian mirror, which is a bizarre artifact that is somehow connected to a place beyond the Fade (whatever that means), and Flemeth made a deal with Marethari, the Keeper of the Dalish clan that is the focus of the Origin. And according to Morrigan, Flemeth is involved with something big.

Just an observation. Maybe Bioware wanted to troll the haters?

[Clockwork_Wings]

I liked it. That was the first I played. The elves seem to get left out a lot, I don't remember the city elves doing much even if you are a city elf, after the origin.

Up until they announced default is the Dalish warden (probably the Martyr prebuilt), I always figured that the human noble was the default, humans being ethnocentric and the human noble knowing a lot of political intrigue in the grand scheme of things, namely who this Howe person is and why he has so many titles, and why people would pay any attention to this arl person.

[DragonKingReborn]

I presumed that it was the Martyr they were carrying forward as well, possibly because it was the 'cleanest' of the prebuilts you could bring into DA2. I don't know that it can be claimed the Dalish origin is the 'most important'. My understanding was, the events of ALL the origin stories took place, irrespective of whether or not the player chose that origin. I suppose you could argue that the Dalish clan the Warden could have come from was camped around an area important to a long term story arc for Thedas, but beyond that....they had to choose one Origin as being something they could carry forward in the event of an entirely new player coming in to Inquisition.

[Fishy]

In DA2 the default Warden was the noble human. Figure.

[JCAP]

My favorite is the human noble, but I liked the dalish too.

[Fishy]

But anyway . .From what I understand .. BioWare has their own canon and each of us have their own canon and none of them are the true canon.

[Walrider]

I liked the Dalish origin. It was my favorite, actually, followed by the mage one.

[Eveangaline]

For a second I thought this was another thread about having to be a dalish if you want to be an elf mage in inquisition.

[Enshaid]

My canon warden is Dalish so...

[Spectre slayer]

I liked the Dalish one but was surprised that it's what they consider their canon.

[TMJfin]

Dalish is my favorite origin. But I'm sucker for elves so...

[The Six Path of Pain]

Yo, I just remembered something. Didn't the Dalish automatically get the land north of the Brecilian forest, I think it's that part, if the Dalish Warden did the ultimate sacrifice. Why the hell is Mahariel's clan living so close to Kirkwall? It was Marethari that accepted the deal in the first place. /:

[The Elder King]

Suprez30 wrote...

In DA2 the default Warden was the noble human. Figure.

There were three default in DA2: HN, DN, and dalish. 

[Navasha]

Dalish was my favorite origin, honestly. It didn't have the shock value of the dwarven or human Noble, but it was one of the few where becoming a warden really wasn't a choice. It was either become a warden or die.

I also LOVE it when Tamlen shows back up during the camp attack scene.

[Fishy]

hhh89 wrote...

Suprez30 wrote...

In DA2 the default Warden was the noble human. Figure.

There were three default in DA2: HN, DN, and dalish. 

 if you did not pick any it was set to choose the noble origin. Set by Default.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

The Dalish Origin is one of my favorites too. The second of my two biggest playthroughs had a Dalish Warden.

[Volus Warlord]

Elves are weak, incompetent pansies, and the Dalish are the "true" elves.

Therefore, the Dalish are the weakest, incompetentest pansies. I don't see why they should be particularly relevant.

[vertigomez]

I like it. I played my Dalish elf as a tragic figure; she had her whole life ahead of her, and then it all went to **** because Tamlen has a compulsive need to touch things. I would like to know more about the Eluvian and where it leads.

Did they ever address what sort of arrangement Marethari and Flemeth had? The Dalish seem to revere Asha'bellanar but they're also terrified of her, soo...

[TheBlackBaron]

For the record OP, Dwarf Commoner was probably the least common Origin. Dalish seemed pretty popular to me - not as much as City Elf but still up there.

[Mykel54]

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

Yo, I just remembered something. Didn't the Dalish automatically get the land north of the Brecilian forest, I think it's that part, if the Dalish Warden did the ultimate sacrifice. Why the hell is Mahariel's clan living so close to Kirkwall? It was Marethari that accepted the deal in the first place. /:

The land was actually Ostagar and the hinterlands in the south of it. When you make the ultimate sacrifice, the land boon is granted automatically. However if the dalish warden lives, you interact with Ashale (the elf who raised your warden) and not Marethari. In DA2 it is suggested that Ashale is the one left in Ferelden to handle the lands.

The reason why Marethari´s clan go to the north and camp at Sundermount is because Flemeth blackmailed or bargained for them to go there. You can tell the dalish treat her with reverence and wouldn´t defy her.

The reason why they stay all those years is because of Marethari, who doesn´t want to leave without Merrill, so they´re forced to stay because the Keeper has the ultimate authority.

[Secretlyapotato]

Whatever, I just thought it was the most boring; don't need a complicated reason for that.

Modifié par Secretlyapotato, 12 septembre 2013 - 10:50 .

[yakaman91]

I never played the Dalish origin. My first (and favorite) was the Dwarf commoner origin. To me, Dwarven history matters every bit as much as the Dalish, including such questions as 1) did the dwarves really lose connection to the fade due to lyrium exposure?, 2) what is red lyrium and what relationship did dwarves have with it?, 3) how deep did the covenant between Minrathous and the Dwarven kingdoms go?, 4) what happened in Kal-Sharok?, 5) what is the golem in DA:2 alluding to in its mysterious statements (i.e. "we were much more than we are today...").

There is a lot of ancient history to be uncovered. One favorite crackpot theory of mine is that the dwarven connection to the fade and elven immortality were lost due to the same event.

[Angrywolves]

A post by the OP full of inaccurate assumptions .
I doubt the Dalish origin is the leaked liked and there's no proof it will be the most important one in DAI.

[Lavaeolus]

Mykel54 wrote...

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

Yo, I just remembered something. Didn't the Dalish automatically get the land north of the Brecilian forest, I think it's that part, if the Dalish Warden did the ultimate sacrifice. Why the hell is Mahariel's clan living so close to Kirkwall? It was Marethari that accepted the deal in the first place. /:

The land was actually Ostagar and the hinterlands in the south of it. When you make the ultimate sacrifice, the land boon is granted automatically. However if the dalish warden lives, you interact with Ashale (the elf who raised your warden) and not Marethari. In DA2 it is suggested that Ashale is the one left in Ferelden to handle the lands.

The reason why Marethari´s clan go to the north and camp at Sundermount is because Flemeth blackmailed or bargained for them to go there. You can tell the dalish treat her with reverence and wouldn´t defy her.

The reason why they stay all those years is because of Marethari, who doesn´t want to leave without Merrill, so they´re forced to stay because the Keeper has the ultimate authority.

Also, I'm pretty sure Alistair (if king) says the Dalish land thing went south pretty quickly, though he doesn't give any details.

It's possible they don't even have the land anymore, or it keeps being attacked, or something similar.