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[LobselVith8]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Well, there is a CC preset that looks somewhat Asian in DA2, so potentially Hawke could look Asian and therefore, so could his mother and siblings. 

That is a good point.

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

As long as the kids don't siem to singporely, it will be ok.

Otherwise I will have to Chiang Mai friends.



Gosh, those puns were Laosy.

[PsychoBlonde]

Um, Asians traveled the world just as much as any civilized culture did in antiquity: http://io9.com/heres...oman-1253007513

Haven't you ever heard of the Silk Road? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road

[Han Shot First]

Darth Brotarian wrote...


Thedas's population doesn't need to be a multi-racial cornucopia, especially when there are probably other continents in the world than just thedas with these groups. Asian cultures didn't even travel outside of their countrys except on exploritoral missions, they were highly isolationist. I don't see why that shouldn't be the case for any asian equivilant race in thedas as well.

Thedas isn't Europe, so all in game events don't have to be a mirror of European history. But even if European history is used as a guide, it does not necessarily rule out the introduction of characters with a culture based on one found in Asia. Medieval Europeans were in contact with the Mongols.

Mongol Invasion of Europe

The Crusader states also considered allying with the Mongols against the Muslims, and Marco Polo visited the court of Kublai Khan in the 13th Century.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 13 septembre 2013 - 12:00 .

[thats1evildude]

Angrywolves wrote...

Yes this half dead old man still enjoys looking at attractive young women.

Thank you for that creepy bit of insight. 

[Cainhurst Crow]

So what do people want when they're asking for asians in dragon age inquisition? Do they want an entirely new region of thedas's map to suddenly pop up and become important even though it wasn't in the other games that's the equivalent of ancient china or an amalgam of various asian countries? Do they want a "asian style" aesthetic to certain weapons and armors that reflect a more eastern design? Do they just want slanted eyes and a certain skin shade so they cane "look asian" without anything else attached?

What is it people want?

[Hazegurl]

I love it when a person uses the "bad grammar" argument when they have nothing else. lol!

[sandalisthemaker]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Why don't we shove some south americans into the game to, while we're at it? Maybe an eskimo people and some new zealanders to really diversify the continent.

Thedas's population doesn't need to be a multi-racial cornucopia, especially when there are probably other continents in the world than just thedas with these groups. Asian cultures didn't even travel outside of their countrys except on exploritoral missions, they were highly isolationist. I don't see why that shouldn't be the case for any asian equivilant race in thedas as well.

South America doesn't exist, neither does any of the places from our world, you know what else doesn't exist in Thedas? Europe.

Nice one.

Great comback there, champ. But that doesn't explain anything of your badly worded, erroneous in terms of grammar post.

So because europe doesn't exist, you should have asians in the game, because reasons?

And why not?  If Bioware wants to include people with Asian features, they can.

[sandalisthemaker]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

So what do people want when they're asking for asians in dragon age inquisition? Do they want an entirely new region of thedas's map to suddenly pop up and become important even though it wasn't in the other games that's the equivalent of ancient china or an amalgam of various asian countries? Do they want a "asian style" aesthetic to certain weapons and armors that reflect a more eastern design? Do they just want slanted eyes and a certain skin shade so they cane "look asian" without anything else attached?

What is it people want?

Why are you getting all bent out of shape over it?

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

Sandal, it's not just that in our world Black people come from Africa; we're not SAYING that Africa should be in Thedas.

However, safely assuming that evolution would have happened in Thedas, it simply does NOT make sense for all these different cultures to have evolved in exactly the same surroundings.

[Hazegurl]

ManchesterUnitedFan1 wrote...

As long as the kids don't siem to singporely, it will be ok.

Otherwise I will have to Chiang Mai friends.



Gosh, those puns were Laosy.

I see what you did there lol!

[Shadow Fox]

Hazegurl wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Why don't we shove some south americans into the game to, while we're at it? Maybe an eskimo people and some new zealanders to really diversify the continent.

Thedas's population doesn't need to be a multi-racial cornucopia, especially when there are probably other continents in the world than just thedas with these groups. Asian cultures didn't even travel outside of their countrys except on exploritoral missions, they were highly isolationist. I don't see why that shouldn't be the case for any asian equivilant race in thedas as well.

South America doesn't exist, neither does any of the places from our world, you know what else doesn't exist in Thedas? Europe.

*chuckles* ouch

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

@Hazegurl, respectfully, I may not agree with everything Brotarian says, but he does have actual points. He isn't just resorting to Ad Hominem.

[Cainhurst Crow]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Why don't we shove some south americans into the game to, while we're at it? Maybe an eskimo people and some new zealanders to really diversify the continent.

Thedas's population doesn't need to be a multi-racial cornucopia, especially when there are probably other continents in the world than just thedas with these groups. Asian cultures didn't even travel outside of their countrys except on exploritoral missions, they were highly isolationist. I don't see why that shouldn't be the case for any asian equivilant race in thedas as well.

South America doesn't exist, neither does any of the places from our world, you know what else doesn't exist in Thedas? Europe.

Nice one.

Great comback there, champ. But that doesn't explain anything of your badly worded, erroneous in terms of grammar post.

So because europe doesn't exist, you should have asians in the game, because reasons?

And why not?  If Bioware wants to include people with Asian features, they can.

Where did they come from? What nation do they hail from? What is that nations terms with the rest of thedas? Does thedas even know it exist?

There's a lot more to being a race than just a skintone and facial features. If you're just throwing it in there for no other reason than for it to exist, why can't you do so with more fantastical things? Like lizardmen? Or cat people?

[LobselVith8]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

But it is all about the features.
You talk as if there should be Asian nationality, as if Asia actually existed in Thedas.  It doesn't.  Neither do Europe or Africa.
What you do have are people in Thedas who have features and skin tone commonly associated with real world countries/cultures 

It is about features. I certainly find the ability to play as a Latino-equivalent character in Thedas appealing.

[sandalisthemaker]

ManchesterUnitedFan1 wrote...

Sandal, it's not just that in our world Black people come from Africa; we're not SAYING that Africa should be in Thedas.

However, safely assuming that evolution would have happened in Thedas, it simply does NOT make sense for all these different cultures to have evolved in exactly the same surroundings.

Who cares?
This is a fantasy world. It does not have to conform to real world anthropology.

[sandalisthemaker]

LobselVith8 wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

But it is all about the features.
You talk as if there should be Asian nationality, as if Asia actually existed in Thedas.  It doesn't.  Neither do Europe or Africa.
What you do have are people in Thedas who have features and skin tone commonly associated with real world countries/cultures 

It is about features. I certainly find the ability to play as a Latino-equivalent character in Thedas appealing.

Yes. My avatar was the closest I could get in Origins, and I hope to be able to create a latino looking character in DA:I

[Angrywolves]

Why lock the thread just because some poster doesn't like it.
As far as it having been weighed in before anyone who says that provide a link.
Previous game comments shouldn't count.
As for darth's south american comment, that was preposterous.
This isn't a political correctness argument .
No argument .
The recent romance thread arguments seemed to go forever befitting they were locked.
Silly for someone to ask a mod to lock this thread.
I had a question , I asked it.
If other players don't like my asking too bad.
shrugs.

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

Then who cares if there ARE any asians either?

This is a fantasy world. It does not have to conform to real world anthropology.

[sandalisthemaker]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Why don't we shove some south americans into the game to, while we're at it? Maybe an eskimo people and some new zealanders to really diversify the continent.

Thedas's population doesn't need to be a multi-racial cornucopia, especially when there are probably other continents in the world than just thedas with these groups. Asian cultures didn't even travel outside of their countrys except on exploritoral missions, they were highly isolationist. I don't see why that shouldn't be the case for any asian equivilant race in thedas as well.

South America doesn't exist, neither does any of the places from our world, you know what else doesn't exist in Thedas? Europe.

Nice one.

Great comback there, champ. But that doesn't explain anything of your badly worded, erroneous in terms of grammar post.

So because europe doesn't exist, you should have asians in the game, because reasons?

And why not?  If Bioware wants to include people with Asian features, they can.

Where did they come from? What nation do they hail from? What is that nations terms with the rest of thedas? Does thedas even know it exist?

There's a lot more to being a race than just a skintone and facial features. If you're just throwing it in there for no other reason than for it to exist, why can't you do so with more fantastical things? Like lizardmen? Or cat people?

Rivaini's have dark skin and they are on the same continent.  People with Asian features could therefore be on the same continent.
Next.

[Cainhurst Crow]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

So what do people want when they're asking for asians in dragon age inquisition? Do they want an entirely new region of thedas's map to suddenly pop up and become important even though it wasn't in the other games that's the equivalent of ancient china or an amalgam of various asian countries? Do they want a "asian style" aesthetic to certain weapons and armors that reflect a more eastern design? Do they just want slanted eyes and a certain skin shade so they cane "look asian" without anything else attached?

What is it people want?

Why are you getting all bent out of shape over it?

Because ideas like these have massive implications for the setting, and if left unanswered, would simply leave a giant gaping logic problem. If there is a culture whose features are radically different from everyone else, why aren't people reacting to them like they would qunari? Why has no one ever mentioned this nationality group ever before? If they were a recent discovery, a civilization that went undetected until now, how did they intermingel so quickly that no one pays them any mind?

Just demanding things without giving thought to it is a recipie for disaster.

sandalisthemaker wrote...
Who cares?
This is a fantasy world. It does not have to conform to real world anthropology.

And I suppose we should add laser beams and giant robots as well. Afterall, it's just a fantasy world. Why have it conform to any sort of logic or reason at all?

[Hazegurl]

ManchesterUnitedFan1 wrote...

Sandal, it's not just that in our world Black people come from Africa; we're not SAYING that Africa should be in Thedas.

However, safely assuming that evolution would have happened in Thedas, it simply does NOT make sense for all these different cultures to have evolved in exactly the same surroundings.

Right, Removing the actual names of the continents and focusing on the environment alone you can see that based on environment, people in certain areas will develop slanted eyes, yellow skin et al. Just as certain areas are the cause of people evolving into having kinky hair and dark skin. If Thedas is like the planet Earth then it should have the same environments that would cause slanted eyes and yellow skin. Just not in the same area as the story setting.

Modifié par Hazegurl, 13 septembre 2013 - 12:11 .

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

Actually, who cares if there is gravity? Who cares if we eat water and drink bread? Who cares if sexual reproduction occurs in the nasal canal?

After all, this is a fantasy world. It does not have to conform to real world ideas.

[Han Shot First]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

So what do people want when they're asking for asians in dragon age inquisition? Do they want an entirely new region of thedas's map to suddenly pop up and become important even though it wasn't in the other games that's the equivalent of ancient china or an amalgam of various asian countries? Do they want a "asian style" aesthetic to certain weapons and armors that reflect a more eastern design? Do they just want slanted eyes and a certain skin shade so they cane "look asian" without anything else attached?

What is it people want?

I don't think expanding the world map or introducing new cultures is a necessity for DA:I. But if DA:I or any other Dragon Age game did that, I would probably welcome it. The lore is interesting so the more revealed about the world  the better, and I wouldn't object to the introduction of some eastern-looking weapons or armors.