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[Shadow of Light Dragon]

przemichal wrote...

So, I dunno, HELP ME, how can you be so excited about it? Cause I can't and can't and can't and the more screenshots and trailers and details surface the more afraid I am I'm not going to buy this game : / cause seriously, I know it was discussed over and over again, but the second installment really did kill all the magic, it really, really, really, really, really did, it ENDED it, simply put. (Even the menus in this game were so horrible, gawd.)

With the latest reveals on races etc. I've upgraded my attitude to 'cautiously optimistic', but excited is something that won't happen until the game is released and I see what my peers think of it.

I'm not hyped, though I genuinely hope the game turns out to be a good, fun RPG of the sort I like to play,  that deserves to be bought.

If that turns out to be the case, I will get excited again.  

[Nohvarr]

I'm always fascinated when people imply (either intentionally or not) that other people's excitement for a game/film/product bothers them in some way. It's not like the person is spending the money of the one concerned, they just happen to enjoy a product another does not. I don't get upset with people who enjoy Football despite the fact that I do not care about the sport at all, just like I am not bothered by people who LOVE Final Fantasy 13 and are chomping at the bit for the next expansion, despite my supreme loathing of the 13 saga.

I would honestly encourage the OP to remain skeptical and wait for reviews both professional and from fans they trust before buying the game if they are really that concerned about it.

[Deflagratio]

All signs point to DA: I kicking major ass right now. The Mistakes (And occasional success) of DA2 I believe have been taken to heart, DA:I has been given the time these kinds of games really deserve and Bioware as a studio is just so damn talented. When you're biggest "Failure" is Dragon Age 2, I think you can kind of hold your head up high.

Right now my only real concern (And this isn't limited to DA: I By the way) is that Inquisition is a Cross-gen game. I'm not sure how to reconcile the tech gap between say, X360 and X1. Destiny is Cross-Gen too, and pretty much every AAA game will be until 2015 I reckon. Still, given the unparalleled enthusiasm (See: Pre-Order and Backorder rates) of the next consoles... Maybe this problem won't last too long.

I keep my expectations reasonable though. Crushing disappointment can ruin even an amazing experience because you built it too high. Like I did with Oblivion. I figured that game would just be everything Morrowind was + everything I wanted Morrowind to be... And unfairly though it was pretty lame when it failed to meet those unreasonable standards. I've grown since then. (See: Cynical)

[Deflagratio]

MasterScribe wrote...

Deflagratio wrote...

I keep my expectations reasonable though. Crushing disappointment can ruin even an amazing experience because you built it too high. Like I did with Oblivion. I figured that game would just be everything Morrowind was + everything I wanted Morrowind to be... And unfairly though it was pretty lame when it failed to meet those unreasonable standards. I've grown since then. (See: Cynical)

Skyrim failed too, at least according to many Bethesda Community Discussion posters.

For me, it fixed some things and broke others.

DAI could end up doing the same for its franchise.

That's how every new ES game is. It started with Daggerfall transistion. Because Morrowind wasn't Daggerfall 2. And then Oblivion wasn't Morrownd 2 and Skyrim wasn't Oblivion 2.

It's just part of the collateral damage Bethesda has to take because they pretty much tear the game entirely down and start over. Most people expect a standard Sequel experience like say, KotoR to KotoR2. Same stuff, but +  New stuff. I always argue "That's what expansions are for", and when you consider Bethesda's expansions are usually bigger than most games released nowadays... I don't think anyone has room for an argument.


Just looking at DA:I you can tell it's not going to be Origins 2. I'm fine with that. Hell, aside from the Lack of Mako Exploration (I know, yell at me, but I loved the sense of scale that gave the Galaxy) I absolutely though Mass Effect 2 was every bit superior to Mass Effect 1, but they play radically different. (I guess I'll say I really missed looting from Mass Effect 1 as well)

[-TC1989-]

Personally I'm not going to walk into Inquisition as blindly as I did DA: 2. When I was purchasing DA: 2 at the time (which was a day one purchase), I only thought "Man Bioware is at a really good place right now, Origins was amazing, and so far the Mass Effect series is awesome too". Sadly, I was pretty disappointed with DA: 2, but it wasn't a "bad" game by any means.

As I've said before, I hold faith in them to make this a good comeback game. But I'm not sure if I'm going to be as hasty this time, and might wait for a review or something first.

Modifié par -TC1989-, 13 septembre 2013 - 04:18 .

[Deflagratio]

I definitely don't think I'll be a blind buyer of DA:I. I managed to dodge the bullet with Dragon Age 2, because once I saw the art style I could immediately tell this wasn't going to be my unanticipated joy like the original was. And then bad news just kept rolling in from there.

I'll point out that the first times I saw DA2 I had no enthusiasm about it at all, but with DA:I all the stuff that came out of GI and PAX just looks so damn good. I'm usually pretty good about feeling out games I'll like just by watching and reading about them. Then again, I did buy Armored Core 4, and that game blew ass.

[Allan Schumacher]

I keep my expectations reasonable though. Crushing disappointment can ruin even an amazing experience because you built it too high.

Expectation management is very important. Rarely do I buy a game and go "ugh I just don't like that." The last one I can remember off the top of my head is Empire: Total War. Though I have since still been able to pick up Shogun 2 and Rome 2 and have enjoyed both of them immensely.

[Deflagratio]

Dev quoted my post.

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Seriously though, my lesson was hard learned, I was so disappointed with Oblivion that I couldn't even see all the stuff it did way better than its predecessor. It wasn't until I revisited the game some years later that I realized how stupid and unreasonable I was being.

I've been thinking about going back to DA:O, but in retrospect of mistakes passed, I'd rather not have my expectations colored and just let Inquisition come at me fresh. I remember my time just well enough that I'll be able to mess with Dragon Age Keep.

VampireSoap wrote...

.So some of us are watching the development of DAI very closely.

That's kind of your responsibility as a consumer anyway. Esepcially because of some of the ...speaking frankly here... anti consumer measures the games industry has in place.  You buy a game that is an unequivicable piece of ****, and you're stuck with it.

Modifié par Deflagratio, 13 septembre 2013 - 06:55 .

[Hi my name is Ryan]

Despite the fact that Bioware has recently produced some of the worst games ever made, DA:I seems like it might possibly be worth playing (used).

[Deflagratio]

Hi my name is Ryan wrote...

Despite the fact that Bioware has recently produced some of the worst games ever made, DA:I seems like it might possibly be worth playing (used).

Couldn't be a lamer attempt at flame-bait if it had no legs and was soaked in oil.

[AntiChri5]

Deflagratio wrote...

Hi my name is Ryan wrote...

Despite the fact that Bioware has recently produced some of the worst games ever made, DA:I seems like it might possibly be worth playing (used).

Couldn't be a lamer attempt at flame-bait if it had no legs and was soaked in oil.

And yet you responded to it.

[Deflagratio]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Deflagratio wrote...

Hi my name is Ryan wrote...

Despite the fact that Bioware has recently produced some of the worst games ever made, DA:I seems like it might possibly be worth playing (used).

Couldn't be a lamer attempt at flame-bait if it had no legs and was soaked in oil.

And yet you responded to it.

I was in the neighborhood.

[zMataxa]

Hi my name is Ryan wrote...

Despite the fact that Bioware has recently produced some of the worst games ever made, DA:I seems like it might possibly be worth playing (used).

______

Hahaha so says a BSN member who's played both and takes the time to post on BSN.
For the good of the Fade and preventing veil tears, perhaps?

[Johanna]

The fact that you're here at all suggests that you are interested in DA:I. What's the problem, then?

I liked DA2 well enough, and I felt that I got my money's worth. It's done with, move on.

Modifié par pants witch, 13 septembre 2013 - 07:08 .

[Hi my name is Ryan]

Deflagratio wrote...

Hi my name is Ryan wrote...

Despite the fact that Bioware has recently produced some of the worst games ever made, DA:I seems like it might possibly be worth playing (used).

Couldn't be a lamer attempt at flame-bait if it had no legs and was soaked in oil.

Nope. ME2, ME3,and DA2 are some of the most joyless experiences I've ever had and I'm not blindly hopping on the Inquisition hype train.

For the good of the Fade and preventing veil tears, perhaps?[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]

Something like that. Also blood magic. Blood Magic. Blood Magic.

The fact that you're here at all suggests that you are interested in DA:I

Well, I did say that it looked like it was worth buying.

Modifié par Hi my name is Ryan, 13 septembre 2013 - 07:25 .

[Deflagratio]

Hi my name is Ryan wrote...

Deflagratio wrote...

Hi my name is Ryan wrote...

Despite the fact that Bioware has recently produced some of the worst games ever made, DA:I seems like it might possibly be worth playing (used).

Couldn't be a lamer attempt at flame-bait if it had no legs and was soaked in oil.

Nope. ME2, ME3,and DA2 are some of the most joyless experiences I've ever had and I'm not blindly hopping on the Inquisition hype train.

That's fine. This should have been your post though because it expresses a (very valid) opinion as an opinion, instead of an opinion as absolute fact. Hence why I called your original "Lame Flame bait".

I can understand DA2 at least, as that game evoked a certain level of apathy in the brief time I played it. Curious as to what made ME3 and particularly ME2 so joyless. They're both far from perfect and there's plenty to dislike, but what in particular killed it for you?

Modifié par Deflagratio, 13 septembre 2013 - 07:24 .

[Allan Schumacher]

Cleaned up some posts. This thread isn't really the place to start tearing into other games that have frustrated you.

I'm well aware of Rome 2's problems (which fortunately haven't affected me). The statement was that it met my expectations and because of that, I am satisfied.

[fiveforchaos]

Nohvarr wrote...

I'm always fascinated when people imply (either intentionally or not) that other people's excitement for a game/film/product bothers them in some way. It's not like the person is spending the money of the one concerned, they just happen to enjoy a product another does not. I don't get upset with people who enjoy Football despite the fact that I do not care about the sport at all, just like I am not bothered by people who LOVE Final Fantasy 13 and are chomping at the bit for the next expansion, despite my supreme loathing of the 13 saga.

I would honestly encourage the OP to remain skeptical and wait for reviews both professional and from fans they trust before buying the game if they are really that concerned about it.

I can get it. It's lonely not liking something when everyone else is super excited about it, always more fun to be part of a fandom than a hatedom after all. Sometimes the loneliness turns into resentment for the people who do enjoy whatever's being hyped.

[Andraste_Reborn]

I'm ridiculously over-excited about Inquisition, for the same reason I'm ridiculously over-excited about the incipient arrival of the Twelfth Doctor. I've loved both previous DA games and eleven previous Doctors, why wouldn't I assume that I'll love the next one too? Especially since the trailers look great and Peter Capaldi is awesomesauce.

For those who hated DA2, I think more caution is warranted. I'm glad that the return of race selection, the tactical camera, etc. seem to have made people more optimistic, but if you hated the last game I think it would be a good idea to wait for reviews, more game play footage and/or a demo before you make up your mind.

I do find it a bit odd when people tell me I shouldn't be enthusiastically squeeing and planning eight imports. I'm not expecting a flawless game - I could probably sit here all evening and tell you what was wrong with DAO and DA2. (Or my other favourite games, like the Baldur's Gate series and Grim Fandango. Man, that game has a dreadful control system.) But I am expecting to like it, based on all the evidence I have available and my previous experience of BioWare and this series in particular.

Modifié par Andrastee, 13 septembre 2013 - 07:47 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

If you aren't interested in the game, can't can't can't can't can't get back into it, and have 0 ability to like anything you've seen or heard, why are you still bothering with the series?

Move. On. With. Your. Life.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 13 septembre 2013 - 07:48 .

[Pakundo]

Maybe because I'm a late newcomer to the series, I always knew to expect DA2 to be a very different game from DA:O, so when I went in and played it, I did so without any expectation at all.
Sure, DA2 was certainly... Different when compared to DA:O, it had its own strengths, its own good points.

And it didn't really damage the Dragon Age series for me at all.
Besides, I know now that Inquisition will bring back a sense of scale that even eclipses that of Origins, which is a plus!
The only thing I'm not eagerly expecting, though, is the return of the dialogue wheel.
Sure, it fit Mass Effect well enough (it was DESIGNED for it, after all), but after playing Origins, 6 dialogue options at most feels a bit constrictive.

Modifié par Pakundo, 13 septembre 2013 - 07:57 .