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[SlottsMachine]

Plaintiff 1 - David 0

[Cainhurst Crow]

Glados is funny why are we talking about her?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Xilizhra wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I'm not 'knocking down' any games because I don't know of any games where the protagonist is intentionally made evil.

Overlord

Tropico

Grand Theft Auto, KotOR, TOR. 

What is an evil character? Define evil.

Out of curiosity, what would you call a light-sided Imperial?

An Imperial with a conscious?

What would you call Scourge? Or Vitiate? Or Revan (pre-memory loss)?

[Zu Long]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Well we're far off the rails NOW, aren't we...

We blasted past the moon a while back, yes.

[SlottsMachine]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Well we're far off the rails NOW, aren't we...

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[Zu Long]

Xilizhra wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I'm not 'knocking down' any games because I don't know of any games where the protagonist is intentionally made evil.

Overlord

Tropico

Grand Theft Auto, KotOR, TOR. 

What is an evil character? Define evil.

Out of curiosity, what would you call a light-sided Imperial?

In a word? Awesome. I have four of them.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Xilizhra wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I'm not 'knocking down' any games because I don't know of any games where the protagonist is intentionally made evil.

Overlord

Tropico

Grand Theft Auto, KotOR, TOR. 

What is an evil character? Define evil.

Out of curiosity, what would you call a light-sided Imperial?

Fun to play, soon to be dead via coup.

[Xilizhra]

An Imperial with a conscious?

What would you call Scourge? Or Vitiate? Or Revan (pre-memory loss)?

From what I know of Scourge, he's evil but thinks the Emperor's crazy. Vitiate is the Emperor, with all that entails. Revan... I'm not sure, I never played KotOR.

In a word? Awesome. I have four of them.

I have one. I'm making the best use of my timecard, then never subscribing again because Austin is a piece of ****.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 15 septembre 2013 - 01:11 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

Xilizhra wrote...

An Imperial with a conscious?

What would you call Scourge? Or Vitiate? Or Revan (pre-memory loss)?

From what I know of Scourge, he's evil but thinks the Emperor's crazy. Vitiate is the Emperor, with all that entails. Revan... I'm not sure, I never played KotOR.

In a word? Awesome. I have four of them.

I have one. I'm making the best use of my timecard, then never subscribing again because Austin is a piece of ****.

Wow. You're very mean.

[Zu Long]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I'm not 'knocking down' any games because I don't know of any games where the protagonist is intentionally made evil.

Overlord

Tropico

Grand Theft Auto, KotOR, TOR. 

What is an evil character? Define evil.

Out of curiosity, what would you call a light-sided Imperial?

Fun to play, soon to be dead via coup.

Who is going to coup them? Or did you mean they will die in the process of trying to perpetrate a coup on the Emperor?

[Xilizhra]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

An Imperial with a conscious?

What would you call Scourge? Or Vitiate? Or Revan (pre-memory loss)?

From what I know of Scourge, he's evil but thinks the Emperor's crazy. Vitiate is the Emperor, with all that entails. Revan... I'm not sure, I never played KotOR.

In a word? Awesome. I have four of them.

I have one. I'm making the best use of my timecard, then never subscribing again because Austin is a piece of ****.

Wow. You're very mean.

Austin's team does not deserve better.

[Zu Long]

Xilizhra wrote...

I have one. I'm making the best use of my timecard, then never subscribing again because Austin is a piece of ****.

Huh. I've been a subscriber since the beginning. No complaints yet, though I'll probably switch to Star Citizen once that comes out.

[David7204]

The premise is evil characters with no or few redeeming traits are generally unlikeable, yes. A lot of things depend on the narrative portrayal.

[Zu Long]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

This is true; in Portal, the protagonist is the evil one. She murders her only friend just to complete a test. Sickening.

But the Companion Cube isn't dead!

I admit, I had a major D'awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww moment when I realized that (and the turret choir may or may not have put a lump in my throat).

Portal 2 was a very good game.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

EntropicAngel wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

You ever watch Dexter?

I hate to take David's side but Dexter is not portrayed as evil, at all. He kills serial killers, not innocents.

You know why though? It's not because he cares, but because he has a code that he's been given that he follows that satisfies his urges and allows him to clean up the lowest denominator of society. 

In later seasons, he has indeed killed innocent people (while letting people who are guilty go free... like Hannah... and Zach... and Debra.)

He was fully prepared and indeed fullly intended to kill LaGuerta in Season 7 just because she was onto him. He killed Hannah's father, who, while being an ****, was innocent according to his code.

Dexter isn't a good guy. It's shown that he is objectively an evil guy that works for the good guys. A sociopathic hero. It's ironic since he becomes a much more normal and human character as the series progresses. He actually falls in love (with Hannah) and dreams of giving up the killing life to have a life with her... and it's ironic since this is the time when he's also killing people (or planning on killing people) that don't fit his code.

To quote Sherlock: "I may be on the side of the angels, but don't think for one second that I am one of them."

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 15 septembre 2013 - 01:21 .

[Fast Jimmy]

General Slotts wrote...

Plaintiff 1 - David 0

This is a battle I've long seen coming and have been thoroughly enjoying.

[Xilizhra]

Zu Long wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I have one. I'm making the best use of my timecard, then never subscribing again because Austin is a piece of ****.

Huh. I've been a subscriber since the beginning. No complaints yet, though I'll probably switch to Star Citizen once that comes out.

There are two major problems. The first is probably not really their fault, which is that this game should never have been an MMO to begin with; all that makes it is an inferior WoW clone with a whole bunch of wasted story potential. The second, which definitely is, is their utterly botched lack of attempt at romance equality, not to mention remarkably sexist writing within the romances themselves.

[Cainhurst Crow]

David7204 wrote...

The premise is evil characters with no or few redeeming traits are generally unlikeable, yes. A lot of things depend on the narrative portrayal.

Tell that to the tywin lannister fandom and everyone who likes warhammer 40K.

[David7204]

LindsayLohan wrote...

David7204 wrote...

The premise is evil characters with no or few redeeming traits are generally unlikeable, yes. A lot of things depend on the narrative portrayal.

So you agreee that the protagonist is largly based on presentation and not a bad story?

Everything in every story is always largly based on presentation. I'm unsure what your point is.