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codenamesource wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

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20-30 hours is just right, including side quests. Quality>quantity for me.


There aren't many video games I enjoy playing. Maybe like 10 in the past 15 years.

So, if I'm getting a game I want to play..... 50+ hours.

Origins easily lasts me 40+ hours in one play.


Origins had tons of filller content that felt like a chore to finish eg. the fade and the deep roads. 


Deep Roads is my favorite part of the game. As is Orzhammar. I spend 10+ hours in Orzhammar haha. And the Fade... I love to hate it. A great place to give personality to your character.

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leaguer of one wrote...

The majority of game play in jrpg's is grinding. And you don't need 40+ to do character growth. Heck, is doctor who can do it in an hour and then  video game does not need 40+ hour to do character growth.


We weren't talking about the majority of gameplay. We were talking about the story.

Do you "need" it? No, but it makes it easier. more natural.

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The reason they probably don't like to say is because player time is relative to each player. After all, I saw one of the comments suggesting that DAO is about 50 hours long, but my own initial play-through of DAO was over 140 hours (my DA2 initial run-through was about 75-80 hours). Because of my own proclivities of taking forever, I felt that DAO was too long, and some of the fat could've been trimmed, whereas I felt DA2 was sufficient, but could've been up to 20 hours longer without getting too long. There are players out there that can complete the exact same amount of material at half the time, and get the same enjoyment out of it, meaning they could have entirely differing opinions about the matter because of it.


TLDR: Different people can play the exact same amount of content in wildly varying times, leading to potential inaccuracy regardless of whatever number they give out. This is a likely reason for avoiding giving out such estimates in the first place.

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As for a game's length e.g. how many hours you need to finish it, did you know, you can finish Fallout 1 in about 15-20 minutes? Did you also know you can finish BG2 in about 2½-3 hours time.
I'm replaying DA:O right now (playing a mage this time) and so far I've spent I think about 40 hours in it. And I just barely scratched the surface if it. However,I think you can finish the game within 40 or 50 hours or so.

I would rather like a good quality game that I can play for say 50-60 hours (including side quests etc). than a 200 hour game with watered down content. And yes, I'm talking about Bioware's CRPGs here. Skyrim and the game's in the TES series are a different ball of yarn completely.

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Either.Ardrey wrote...

but my own initial play-through of DAO was over 140 hours


Did you stand around and observe the scenery or something?

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Bionuts wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

but my own initial play-through of DAO was over 140 hours


Did you stand around and observe the scenery or something?


Considering it takes dozens of professional artists years to make, is that such a terrible thing?

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A 140 hours uh how's that even possible my last run through was like 38 hours everything including stone, peak and Ostagar, another 12 hours for DAOA game glitched out one of my companion quests, Golems took like 46 minutes, Witch Hunt 1 hour 20ish minutes so 62 hours total, another one without the postgame stuff was 35 hours.

Anyway I'm hoping it will be like 40-75+ hours without DLC

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 14 septembre 2013 - 07:45 .


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It's this long:

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Bionuts wrote...

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Do you mean Point A as the very start of the game and Point B as the very end?

Are you considering side quests, alternate content and optional material, or just the prime, core main story? Are you talking about hours played by the player, or the actual game world time passing? If you are talking about the time the  player plays, does that include any replayability or instances where you would only be able to see content if you imported a different world state (like the OGB)? If you are talking about the time in the actual game, are you talking about where the main story truly starts and ends, or where the bulk of the game takes place (for instance, DA2 technically covered 10 years from the first scene in Lothering to the last scene of Cassandra interrogating Varric, but the bulk of Act 1 throuh 3 actually only occurs within a five year time span)?

Just trying to get some quantifiers to what you are asking.


1. The distance between areas. I want to know how many miles/days apart areas are from each other.

2. I'm thinking a hard difficulty run, completing 90% of the content.

3. I want to know how many years the story will be. I'm hoping the main storyline is 4-7 years long. Just something I want. From the very beginning of the game (where we take control of the PC), to the end where the credits roll.



With another year in development, it would  be pointless for them to say anything right now.  I can guarantee you that there are elements in the game now that will either be cut or changed, in whole or part, when it's actually released.  Bioware wouldn't want to mention things now that may not be true in 12 months.

Besides, this is such a minor thing that they probably don't see it as all that important.  I'm honestly curious as to why it's such a big deal for you.

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I miss the days when RPGs averaged in around 50+ hours. 20-30 is way too short.

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Besides, this is such a minor thing that they probably don't see it as all that important.  I'm honestly curious as to why it's such a big deal for you.


There aren't many video games I even like to play. And there are even less that I enjoy. So, when a game comes out that I do ENJOY, I want it to have a lot of content, as well as replayability.

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

but my own initial play-through of DAO was over 140 hours


Did you stand around and observe the scenery or something?


Considering it takes dozens of professional artists years to make, is that such a terrible thing?


80+ hours is a lot of time to stand around, though.

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Bionuts wrote...

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Besides, this is such a minor thing that they probably don't see it as all that important.  I'm honestly curious as to why it's such a big deal for you.


There aren't many video games I even like to play. And there are even less that I enjoy. So, when a game comes out that I do ENJOY, I want it to have a lot of content, as well as replayability.


Erm. You started out talking about distances within the game, and overall timespan.  Are you still talking about that?  Because that was your original point and it's what I addressed.  But in-game distance and in-game timespan has nothing to do with how long the gameplay takes for a minimum-content playthrough.

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50+ hrs with sidequests would make me happy.
80+ hrs would be even better.

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Silfren wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

Silfren wrote...
Besides, this is such a minor thing that they probably don't see it as all that important.  I'm honestly curious as to why it's such a big deal for you.


There aren't many video games I even like to play. And there are even less that I enjoy. So, when a game comes out that I do ENJOY, I want it to have a lot of content, as well as replayability.


Erm. You started out talking about distances within the game, and overall timespan.  Are you still talking about that?  Because that was your original point and it's what I addressed.  But in-game distance and in-game timespan has nothing to do with how long the gameplay takes for a minimum-content playthrough.


This thread is about both how many years the story will take, as well as how long the game will take to complete. If you read the thread you would have seen that.

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Bionuts wrote...
This thread is about both how many years the story will take, as well as how long the game will take to complete. If you read the thread you would have seen that.


I AM aware of that, you smart ass.  But your OP indicated that your primary focus was on the timespan of the story and the in-game distances between cities, etc.  I ask again, why are those details so important--especially since Bioware's current plan for them could be vastly different from what we get in a year's time? 

They don't affect the hours of gameplay.  Origins took place between a year and almost two years, depending on what you go by, while DA2 took place over about seven years (with Cassandra interrogating Varric three years later), but DA2 was the shorter game.  

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Silfren wrote...

Bionuts wrote...
This thread is about both how many years the story will take, as well as how long the game will take to complete. If you read the thread you would have seen that.


I AM aware of that, you smart ass.  But your OP indicated that your primary focus was on the timespan of the story and the in-game distances between cities, etc.  I ask again, why are those details so important--especially since Bioware's current plan for them could be vastly different from what we get in a year's time? 

They don't affect the hours of gameplay.  Origins took place between a year and almost two years, depending on what you go by, while DA2 took place over about seven years (with Cassandra interrogating Varric three years later), but DA2 was the shorter game.  


I like to role play. Shocking. I like to know how many years are taking place in the game. It makes the story more interesting for me. Who the hell wants to finish the story in 1 month? The romances would suck, building an army would be stupid, etc.

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80 hours would be a dream...

ha! If only... 60+ and I'm good.

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I am hoping between 40 and 50 hours.

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It's really hard to make a game that goes beyond 40 hrs without extra padding. And Bioware loves to pad, so I'm not sure I'd be begging for length here.

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For me it is really more of a matter of how much time is spent doing various activities.

If it is 80 hours but 95% of that is trash mob combat... then no thanks. I'd rather have a shorter game with more focus in it than a longer game with a lot of filler.

But err if there is like 50-60 hours of content and thus because of our actions we only get access to 40-50 hours then it would be great. If it was 40-50 and only 30-40 total hours I'd still be fine.

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Anything over 50 hours would be nice.

If the story and characters are enjoyable, I wouldn't complain about the length of the game.

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I love extra padding. A lot of it.

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Bionuts wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Bionuts wrote...
This thread is about both how many years the story will take, as well as how long the game will take to complete. If you read the thread you would have seen that.


I AM aware of that, you smart ass.  But your OP indicated that your primary focus was on the timespan of the story and the in-game distances between cities, etc.  I ask again, why are those details so important--especially since Bioware's current plan for them could be vastly different from what we get in a year's time? 

They don't affect the hours of gameplay.  Origins took place between a year and almost two years, depending on what you go by, while DA2 took place over about seven years (with Cassandra interrogating Varric three years later), but DA2 was the shorter game.  


I like to role play. Shocking. I like to know how many years are taking place in the game. It makes the story more interesting for me. Who the hell wants to finish the story in 1 month? The romances would suck, building an army would be stupid, etc.


And it's a really silly thing to be worried about.  Bioware excels at storytelling.  I don't think you have to worry about a major world-changing war such as the one Inquisition will involve taking place over the span of a mere month.  I just don't see how this is such a hugely important detail as to warrant any concern.  Origins took place over the span of a year at least, closer to two years according to some, depending on which source you go by, but at least a solid year.  So why are you concerned that they'll suddenly drop the ball on that detail for Inquisition? 

Modifié par Silfren, 15 septembre 2013 - 03:11 .


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Oh it's long. Real long. Longer then any other. Might be too much for you to handle. [/end of sexual post]