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Will the Templars attack mages in the Grey Wardens?


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So we know how templars loathe Grey Warden mages because they aren't under the control of the Chantry and can use any type of magic.Certain templars even try to defy the Grey Wardens by trying to capture mages under their command(Anders).

There are many mages among the Grey Warden ranks plus the Hero of Fereldan could be one of them,and the templars hate the fact that mages are allowed freedom when they are recruited into the Grey Wardens.So do you think they will be crazy enough to start a fight with the Grey Wardens by trying to capture/kill mages in their ranks?

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I'd love to see Templars try to capture Velanna.

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It's possible.

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I think they would probably be too busy with the rebellion to worry about hunting down grey wardens. But hey maybe.

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If they're stupid enough to attack Grey Wardens then the Templars aren't going to around for very long. Warden's are the best of the best from every walk of life, They could rip through an army of mentally deranged drug addicts in no time.

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They could attempt, but I'd like to see them try to capture a battle hardened mage with a ton of deadly and destructive magic all while having his other warden friends to back him up.

It wouldn't be easy and that's why I think most templars let the thought go.

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cjones91 wrote...

So we know how templars loathe Grey Warden mages because they aren't under the control of the Chantry and can use any type of magic.Certain templars even try to defy the Grey Wardens by trying to capture mages under their command(Anders).

There are many mages among the Grey Warden ranks plus the Hero of Fereldan could be one of them,and the templars hate the fact that mages are allowed freedom when they are recruited into the Grey Wardens.So do you think they will be crazy enough to start a fight with the Grey Wardens by trying to capture/kill mages in their ranks?


The Red Templars might. Hard to say if Lambert's faction will focus on the mages among the Grey Wardens (and even the Dalish) when it would give them more antagonists to deal with.

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You never know with fanatics,one templar was ballsy enough to attack the Warden Commander who could have been a mage just so she could capture Anders.Another one was planted inside the Grey Warden ranks where he tried to capture Anders again but failed.

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If they come across one, I'd say there's a good chance for it. But I don't think they're going to go out of their way just to hunt them.

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ScarMK wrote...

If they come across one, I'd say there's a good chance for it. But I don't think they're going to go out of their way just to hunt them.

Even if templars ambused lone Warden mages, if the Grey Wardens catch word of their mages being attacked then there would be hell to pay.

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ScarMK wrote...

If they come across one, I'd say there's a good chance for it. But I don't think they're going to go out of their way just to hunt them.


This


And maybe only the fanatics or resentfull will attack mage grey wardens. I don't think the chantry/templar order would officially allow the hunt for Grey Wardens.

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cjones91 wrote...

ScarMK wrote...

If they come across one, I'd say there's a good chance for it. But I don't think they're going to go out of their way just to hunt them.

Even if templars ambused lone Warden mages, if the Grey Wardens catch word of their mages being attacked then there would be hell to pay.

Like with Anders killing their own they'll probably do nothing.

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red templars would mostly likely do such things compare to the regular templars, which Cullen could possibly be leading. if there is such as two Templar factions.

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This seems very possible. All the Circles have fallen, and some mages may see the Wardens as a way to get out of Templars war path. The Templars won't like that.

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The Hierophant wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

ScarMK wrote...

If they come across one, I'd say there's a good chance for it. But I don't think they're going to go out of their way just to hunt them.

Even if templars ambused lone Warden mages, if the Grey Wardens catch word of their mages being attacked then there would be hell to pay.

Like with Anders killing their own they'll probably do nothing.

But that only happened because that templar caused other wardens to suspect Anders of being a abomination(which he was).If the templars start attacking mage Wardens out of the blue then I suspect the Grey Wardens will see that as a act of war.

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cjones91 wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

ScarMK wrote...

If they come across one, I'd say there's a good chance for it. But I don't think they're going to go out of their way just to hunt them.

Even if templars ambused lone Warden mages, if the Grey Wardens catch word of their mages being attacked then there would be hell to pay.

Like with Anders killing their own they'll probably do nothing.

But that only happened because that templar caused other wardens to suspect Anders of being a abomination(which he was).If the templars start attacking mage Wardens out of the blue then I suspect the Grey Wardens will see that as a act of war.

Act of war please. The Wardens already have enough on their plate in regards to politics, public support, etc. Killing a Templar who happens to be royalty or a noble from a powerful family is not a good look for an organization that's supposed to be neutral. The Qunari in Kirkwall attacked Stroud and his group yet we have heard no word of the Grey Wardens warring with them.

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But another question is how strong are a templars magic neutralizing powers to be able to attack a very powerful warden mage?

Could a lone templar do so?

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Bionuts wrote...

I'd love to see Templars try to capture Velanna.


you and me both pal :D (maybe we find some mangled remains in-game with a letter from her, to their commander?)

but in general, i would say:

NO - the grey are on top of their game again (the warden just defeated a blight - and it's even possible he/she was a mage!) and with all that popularity i would say they wouldn't dare (even more as wardens are well trained (and dangerous, too) - oh, and they have blood-mages in their ranks that even the templars wouldn't be able to handle without superior numbers (and an ambush!)...oh and they have lots of non-grey-warden mages to fight anyway (the ones hiding out at Andorals Reach (spelling?) - well, hiding is not the proper word...they are there because the reach offers protection)

and in addition, i don't think they want to fight the wardens as a whole (they tend to protect their own i would say) - they could lose that fight (at least if they have to fight the mages at the same time and without chantry aid (the wardens are not just a few people either!) - they can't rally the people to their cause and one warden can probably take on a few of the templars (wardens are after all selected for their prowess in combat, their special skills (from assassination to stealing and magic (even blood-magic!))

greetings LAX
ps: i would love the option of playing both of those organisations against the middle :)

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The Hierophant wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

ScarMK wrote...

If they come across one, I'd say there's a good chance for it. But I don't think they're going to go out of their way just to hunt them.

Even if templars ambused lone Warden mages, if the Grey Wardens catch word of their mages being attacked then there would be hell to pay.

Like with Anders killing their own they'll probably do nothing.

But that only happened because that templar caused other wardens to suspect Anders of being a abomination(which he was).If the templars start attacking mage Wardens out of the blue then I suspect the Grey Wardens will see that as a act of war.

Act of war please. The Wardens already have enough on their plate in regards to politics, public support, etc. Killing a Templar who happens to be royalty or a noble from a powerful family is not a good look for an organization that's supposed to be neutral. The Qunari in Kirkwall attacked Stroud and his group yet we have heard no word of the Grey Wardens warring with them.

So you don't think the Wardens will take issue with the templars trying to deprive them of one of their greatest weapons against the darkspawn?

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That might make for a good obstacle or storyarch in DAI, especially if your inquisitor is a mage, but they'd need to be careful not to rehash Anders' personal quest from DAOA.

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cjones91 wrote...

You never know with fanatics,one templar was ballsy enough to attack the Warden Commander who could have been a mage just so she could capture Anders.Another one was planted inside the Grey Warden ranks where he tried to capture Anders again but failed.

Seeing as that short story contradicts in-game, I'll take that with a grain of salt.

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Red Templars would kill anyone.

Any Templars that aren't part of the Red crew should hopefully be doing things more important than picking fights with Grey Wardens.

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Taleroth wrote...

Red Templars would kill anyone.

Any Templars that aren't part of the Red crew should hopefully be doing things more important than picking fights with Grey Wardens.

This.

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cjones91 wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

ScarMK wrote...

If they come across one, I'd say there's a good chance for it. But I don't think they're going to go out of their way just to hunt them.

Even if templars ambused lone Warden mages, if the Grey Wardens catch word of their mages being attacked then there would be hell to pay.

Like with Anders killing their own they'll probably do nothing.

But that only happened because that templar caused other wardens to suspect Anders of being a abomination(which he was).If the templars start attacking mage Wardens out of the blue then I suspect the Grey Wardens will see that as a act of war.

Act of war please. The Wardens already have enough on their plate in regards to politics, public support, etc. Killing a Templar who happens to be royalty or a noble from a powerful family is not a good look for an organization that's supposed to be neutral. The Qunari in Kirkwall attacked Stroud and his group yet we have heard no word of the Grey Wardens warring with them.

So you don't think the Wardens will take issue with the templars trying to deprive them of one of their greatest weapons against the darkspawn?

Of course they'll take issue if the RT attack them. I just don't see them fighting the RT unless they are attacked en masse.

Plus the Red Temps could easily lie and say that their mages had comprimised their supposed neutrality by aiding the CoM. A falsehood like that is easily corroborated by ex Grey Wardens like Fiona and Anders having roles in the conflict, but i wouldn't be surprised if the Wardens wisely called all their mage members back to the Anderfels to avoid this situation.

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