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[Br3admax]

Eterna5 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

wat am I reading?

A thread about how good would it be if BioWare would show ancient Tevinter Empire in positive perspective. Even through the society is based on slavery. Also, it would be very nice if the Inquisitor could take some steps to bring the ancient Tevinter back.

It would be something like BioWare did to Geth by introducing the Legion... A good idea, don't you think so?

Maybe. 

But the last time Tevinter was in power they destroyed heaven and created a blight. 

It was always black. Chantry propaganda means nothing. 

[Steelcan]

Eterna5 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

wat am I reading?

A thread about how good would it be if BioWare would show ancient Tevinter Empire in positive perspective. Even through the society is based on slavery. Also, it would be very nice if the Inquisitor could take some steps to bring the ancient Tevinter back.

It would be something like BioWare did to Geth by introducing the Legion... A good idea, don't you think so?

Maybe. 

But the last time Tevinter was in power they destroyed heaven and created a blight. 

didn't Corpheyus allege that the city was already tainted?

[Steelcan]

Although given the other countries in Thedas I find myself more pro-Tevinter than any other nation, perhaps except Ferelden.

They speak well to my inner evil

Modifié par Steelcan, 19 septembre 2013 - 10:21 .

[Eterna]

Br3ad wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

wat am I reading?

A thread about how good would it be if BioWare would show ancient Tevinter Empire in positive perspective. Even through the society is based on slavery. Also, it would be very nice if the Inquisitor could take some steps to bring the ancient Tevinter back.

It would be something like BioWare did to Geth by introducing the Legion... A good idea, don't you think so?

Maybe. 

But the last time Tevinter was in power they destroyed heaven and created a blight. 

It was always black. Chantry propaganda means nothing. 

How dare you.

Maker turn his gaze from you! 

[Br3admax]

Yeah, you follow his rules and he doesn't even see you. Where is he? Why isn't he sealing the Veil that he let be torn? He obviously doesn't love you, since he let two mistakes fromr a very small minority of the people make him disown you.

[wolfhowwl]

Why was it a bad idea? Learning more about the Geth in ME2 was interesting and from what I remember Legion's inclusion in ME2 was quite well-received. 

Modifié par wolfhowwl, 19 septembre 2013 - 10:22 .

[Steelcan]

Lathrim wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Lathrim wrote...

You can. Just like I can insult you out of the blue for no reason at all. Doesn't mean it's correct.

No, I'm pretty sure any reasonable person would agree that a legal system that arrests rape victims for extra-marital sex is backwards.

And, again, because your own culture has taught you so. And I just happen to agree, as would most.

Regardless, there is a reason why Ethnocentrism is heavily criticised - because, in most cases, it leads to devaluation of X based solely on what your upbringing has given you.

I'd argue that some things are fundamentally good regardless of culture

[Seival]

wolfhowwl wrote...

Seival wrote...
Now think about this. How should some sane person treat his/her property? Obviously, handle the property carefully. Take care of it, so the property will serve you well, and for a long time. Who will buy a computer, for example, just to regularily throw it into dirt to have some fun? Only some psycho.

Seival, in Ancient Tevinter they used slaves as batteries and fodder to weaken the veil.

Seival wrote...
We know too little about ancient Tevinter. And I hope that BioWare will show it in a positive perspective in DA:I.

Oh I think we know plenty.

Unless you've been playing a different game than everyone else the DA series has provided plenty of evidence of their atrocities.

Or maybe everything we know about the ancient Tevinter is just a "thin case" made by the Chantry?

Modifié par Seival, 19 septembre 2013 - 10:23 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

[Steelcan]

Br3ad wrote...

Yeah, you follow his rules and he doesn't even see you. Where is he? Why isn't he sealing the Veil that he let be torn? He obviously doesn't love you, since he let two mistakes fromr a very small minority of the people make him disown you.

I'm increasingly of the opinion that he doesn't exist

[Steelcan]

Seival wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

Seival wrote...
Now think about this. How should some sane person treat his/her property? Obviously, handle the property carefully. Take care of it, so the property will serve you well, and for a long time. Who will buy a computer, for example, just to regularily throw it into dirt to have some fun? Only some psycho.

Seival, in Ancient Tevinter they used slaves as batteries and fodder to weaken the veil.

Seival wrote...
We know too little about ancient Tevinter. And I hope that BioWare will show it in a positive perspective in DA:I.

Oh I think we know plenty.

Unless you've been playing a different game than everyone else the DA series has provided plenty of evidence of their atrocities.

Or maybe everything we know about ancient Tevinter is just a "thin case" made by the Chantry?

I'm the first one to criticise the Chantry, but they were not wholly wrong.  Tevinter has a knack for blood magic at the expense of slaves.

[Eterna]

Br3ad wrote...

Yeah, you follow his rules and he doesn't even see you. Where is he? Why isn't he sealing the Veil that he let be torn? He obviously doesn't love you, since he let two mistakes fromr a very small minority of the people make him disown you.

Blasphemer! The maker works in mysterious ways, you heretic! 

[Steelcan]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

Why was it a bad idea? Learning more about the Geth in ME2 was interesting and from what I remember Legion's inclusion in ME2 was quite well-received. 

Because it led to them becoming a retconned and inconsistent mess.

Not if you gave Cerberus an early Christmas present

Modifié par Steelcan, 19 septembre 2013 - 10:26 .

[wolfhowwl]

Seival wrote...
Or maybe everything we know about the ancient Tevinter is just a "thin case" made by the Chantry?

So destroying Arlathan with blood magic and enslaving the elves didn't happen? Odd that the Dalish would corrobate so-called Chantry propaganda.

Cthulhu42 wrote...
Because it led to them becoming a retconned and inconsistent mess.

Ah well. Such is the result of a rapidly-changing writing team. ME2 was better for its inclusion even if some people weren't happy with how things turned out in ME3. Tis a shame Chris L-Etoile left.

Modifié par wolfhowwl, 19 septembre 2013 - 10:31 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

Sign up now, and show those horned bastards that mageocracy will not fold.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 19 septembre 2013 - 10:27 .

[Steelcan]

wolfhowwl wrote...

Seival wrote...
Or maybe everything we know about the ancient Tevinter is just a "thin case" made by the Chantry?

So destroying Arlathan with blood magic and enslaving the elves didn't happen? Odd that the Dalish would corrobate so-called Chantry propaganda.

If you are trying to build support for an argument using the Dalish as support won't get you far

[Br3admax]

Eterna5 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Yeah, you follow his rules and he doesn't even see you. Where is he? Why isn't he sealing the Veil that he let be torn? He obviously doesn't love you, since he let two mistakes fromr a very small minority of the people make him disown you.

Blasphemer! The maker works in mysterious ways, you heretic! 

Mysterious as in nonexsitant ways. Listen kid, I used to be like you. Then I let the Old Gods into my life. Now, I get to worship my mutated, tainted son. You should try it. 

[Reaverwind]

Darth Brotarian wrote...



Sign up now, and show those horned bastards that mageocracy will not fold.

Too bad the magisters aren't Sith - the latter have better fashion sense. 

[Seival]

Eterna5 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

wat am I reading?

A thread about how good would it be if BioWare would show ancient Tevinter Empire in positive perspective. Even through the society is based on slavery. Also, it would be very nice if the Inquisitor could take some steps to bring the ancient Tevinter back.

It would be something like BioWare did to Geth by introducing the Legion... A good idea, don't you think so?

Maybe. 

But the last time Tevinter was in power they destroyed heaven and created a blight. 

The tale about destroyed heaven and creating a blight might be a lie. That would be a very interesting turn of events, if Tevinter wasn't actually responsible for all of that. Moreover, maybe ancient Tevinter tried to stop those events and suffered in the process.

[leaguer of one]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

Why was it a bad idea? Learning more about the Geth in ME2 was interesting and from what I remember Legion's inclusion in ME2 was quite well-received. 

Because it led to them becoming a retconned and inconsistent mess.

How can a race no one knows about get retconed? It's like some saying someone putting something in a blank space a retcon.

[Br3admax]

Seival wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

wat am I reading?

A thread about how good would it be if BioWare would show ancient Tevinter Empire in positive perspective. Even through the society is based on slavery. Also, it would be very nice if the Inquisitor could take some steps to bring the ancient Tevinter back.

It would be something like BioWare did to Geth by introducing the Legion... A good idea, don't you think so?

Maybe. 

But the last time Tevinter was in power they destroyed heaven and created a blight. 

The tale about destroyed heaven and creating a blight might be a lie. That would be a very interesting turn of events, if Tevinter wasn't actually responsible for all of that. Moreover, maybe ancient Tevinter tried to stop those events and suffered in the process.

So when the Teveinter Magister comes right out and admits it, he's lying. Yes, that does make perfect sense to me. 

[Steelcan]

Seival wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

wat am I reading?

A thread about how good would it be if BioWare would show ancient Tevinter Empire in positive perspective. Even through the society is based on slavery. Also, it would be very nice if the Inquisitor could take some steps to bring the ancient Tevinter back.

It would be something like BioWare did to Geth by introducing the Legion... A good idea, don't you think so?

Maybe. 

But the last time Tevinter was in power they destroyed heaven and created a blight. 

The tale about destroyed heaven and creating a blight might be a lie. That would be a very interesting turn of events, if Tevinter wasn't actually responsible for all of that. Moreover, maybe ancient Tevinter tried to stop those events and suffered in the process.