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[Ridwan]

So from what I know, the Qunari are super duper fundementalists in their belief of the Qun. So how does it work with a player character? For example if you remember talking to Sten in DA:O when the player character asked about female warriors, Sten remarked "Why would our women want to become men?" meaning that women in the Qunari society do not fight as warriors. Hell, wouldn't a Qunari inquisitor be seen as a traitor or something?

If so, then wouldn't our Qunari inquisitor be a Tal Vasoth (yeah I know, I spelled it wrong) and be kill on sight for all the other Qunari?

Modifié par M25105, 15 septembre 2013 - 06:56 .

[caradoc2000]

Your PC is Tal Vashoth.

Side note, this is in the wrong forum.

[Ridwan]

caradoc2000 wrote...

Your PC is Tal Vashoth.

Side note, this is in the wrong forum.

That would make approaching any Qunari faction kinda difficult. Thanks for the answer.

[caradoc2000]

The actual background story of the Kossith PC has not been revealed, but as you said in your OP, being a Qunari and an Inquisitor makes little sense.

They have stated though that this will be addressed.

[LobselVith8]

M25105 wrote...

So from what I know, the Qunari are super duper fundematalists in their belief of the Qun. So how does it work with a player character? For example if you remember talking to Sten in DA:O when the player character asked about female warriors, Sten remarked "Why would our women want to become men?" meaning that women in the Qunari society do not fight as warriors. Hell, wouldn't a Qunari inquisitor be seen as a traitor or something?

Well, Dragon Age II introduced Tallis in the DLC MoTA; Tallis was a Qunari elf, and she was a fighter (although she wasn't "technically" a fighter). Her reception seemed to divide fans (and caused many debates among fans for many reasons).

M25105 wrote...

If so, then wouldn't our Qunari inquisitor be a Tal Vasoth (yeah I know, I spelled it wrong) and be kill on sight for all the other Qunari? 

We don't know what it means to be the Inquisitor; there's certainly a lot of speculation about what it could mean, but not too many facts about the organization. The developers have said we won't be forced to work for the Chantry of Andraste or the Order of Templars as the Inquisitor, so I don't see why the Kossith protagonist couldn't (hypothetically) be Qunari.

A Qunari Inquisitor could be serving the interests of the Qun while being the Inquisitor. Fans have said that a Dalish protagonist would be available, and I doubt the elven protagonist from this background would be forced to serve the Chantry (any more than the Qunari Inquisitor would), especially given the history between the Dalish and the Andrastian Chantry (which is just as bitter as the one between the Chantry of Andraste and the Qunari, who also went to war with each other).

[Ridwan]

LobselVith8 wrote...

M25105 wrote...

So from what I know, the Qunari are super duper fundematalists in their belief of the Qun. So how does it work with a player character? For example if you remember talking to Sten in DA:O when the player character asked about female warriors, Sten remarked "Why would our women want to become men?" meaning that women in the Qunari society do not fight as warriors. Hell, wouldn't a Qunari inquisitor be seen as a traitor or something?

Well, Dragon Age II introduced Tallis in the DLC MoTA; Tallis was a Qunari elf, and she was a fighter (although she wasn't "technically" a fighter). Her reception seemed to divide fans (and caused many debates among fans for many reasons).

M25105 wrote...

If so, then wouldn't our Qunari inquisitor be a Tal Vasoth (yeah I know, I spelled it wrong) and be kill on sight for all the other Qunari? 

We don't know what it means to be the Inquisitor; there's certainly a lot of speculation about what it could mean, but not too many facts about the organization. The developers have said we won't be forced to work for the Chantry of Andraste or the Order of Templars as the Inquisitor, so I don't see why the Kossith protagonist couldn't (hypothetically) be Qunari.

A Qunari Inquisitor could be serving the interests of the Qun while being the Inquisitor. Fans have said that a Dalish protagonist would be available, and I doubt the elven protagonist from this background would be forced to serve the Chantry (any more than the Qunari Inquisitor would), especially given the history between the Dalish and the Andrastian Chantry (which is just as bitter as the one between the Chantry of Andraste and the Qunari, who also went to war with each other).

Didn't know about the Tallis thing, never bought any of the DA 2 dlc.

[caradoc2000]

Tallis was following the Qun and her role as a Ben-Hassrath.

[Silfren]

M25105 wrote...

So from what I know, the Qunari are super duper fundementalists in their belief of the Qun. So how does it work with a player character? For example if you remember talking to Sten in DA:O when the player character asked about female warriors, Sten remarked "Why would our women want to become men?" meaning that women in the Qunari society do not fight as warriors. Hell, wouldn't a Qunari inquisitor be seen as a traitor or something?

If so, then wouldn't our Qunari inquisitor be a Tal Vasoth (yeah I know, I spelled it wrong) and be kill on sight for all the other Qunari?

Just an FYI, Sten's comment wasn't specific to the Qunari, it was general to all people.  He didn't say "Why would our women want to become men?" Rather, it was "Why would women ever wish to become men, it makes no sense."  For him and other Qunari, roles are so rigidly defined for gender that they can't conceive of it under any circumstance.

[Treacherous J Slither]

Silfren wrote...

M25105 wrote...

So from what I know, the Qunari are super duper fundementalists in their belief of the Qun. So how does it work with a player character? For example if you remember talking to Sten in DA:O when the player character asked about female warriors, Sten remarked "Why would our women want to become men?" meaning that women in the Qunari society do not fight as warriors. Hell, wouldn't a Qunari inquisitor be seen as a traitor or something?

If so, then wouldn't our Qunari inquisitor be a Tal Vasoth (yeah I know, I spelled it wrong) and be kill on sight for all the other Qunari?

Just an FYI, Sten's comment wasn't specific to the Qunari, it was general to all people.  He didn't say "Why would our women want to become men?" Rather, it was "Why would women ever wish to become men, it makes no sense."  For him and other Qunari, roles are so rigidly defined for gender that they can't conceive of it under any circumstance.

^I've always had a problem with that. It's illogical to be unable to understand that it's possible for a woman to fight. She has all of the organs and appendages necessary so it would be entirely possible if it were something she chose to do. No intelligent persons brain is unable to figure this out. Now if the individual feels as if a woman would make an inferior fighter then that's a logical conclusion. Though that also wouldn't really make sense in the Dragon Age world seeing as how there are female fighters everywhere and they seem to perform just as well as any males in combat. We also don't see female qunari mages either as if there is somehow a difference between men and women in magical ability.

Honestly I just chalk it up to BioWare being lazy with the character models just like in Mass Effect and trying to explain it away in the lore regardless of whether or not it makes any sense.

[Ferretinabun]

I think it makes sense. Different cultures view the world with different eyes, and what is obvious to one person can be extremely confusing to another.

I think the point of the Qunari is that they see themselves (and others) in terms of the roles they play. A Sten is a Sten - that is his job, his role, his lot in life. To abandon that role is to abandon the Qun which, as far as the Qunari are concerned, is not just heretical, but nonsensical. Similarly, women have certain roles, and men others. Men's jobs include fighting, women's do not. So to see a woman performing a man's job would be like seeing a Lord making tea for his butler, or a mechanic paying a chef to fix his car - logically possible, granted, but a confusing swap of the roles they ought to be playing.

There may be female fighters all over Thedas, but presumably there aren't in Par Vollen, or wherever the Qunari come from (can't quite remember), and the rest of Thedas is still a foreign country to them.

[shingara]

I think it all revolves around a cast system, when sten said women cannot be warriors, i think he was refering to his cast more then a women who is a fighter.

Modifié par shingara, 17 octobre 2013 - 05:26 .