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XenirAhlen

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 Some wardens including my own went through the portal with Morrigan at the end of witch hunt, apart from being fed to the god child i dont see how he couldn't be in inquisition. If not what could have happened to him?

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Knight of Dane

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Anything you like, I see no reason for him to be in Inqusition. He wasn't in DA2 and that had a Eluvian.

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Angrywolves

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Better suited to the DAO forum.
Bioware is finished with the warden and hawke, despite the wishful posts of a few overly optimistic fans.
They won't ever return .
Not as playable characters or npcs.
Maybe someday when Gaider is in a good mood he'll write something , maybe for DAI, maybe for some future game where we players learn hawke's fate and we learn the warden's fate.

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When the Veil opens, Morrigan and your Warden will be forced back to Thedas through the tear, and while Morrigan can safely flutter down as a bird, your Warden will fall from the sky and break every bone in their body.

Insert Wilhelm scream.

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 15 septembre 2013 - 08:18 .


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Knight of Dane wrote...

Anything you like, I see no reason for him to be in Inqusition. He wasn't in DA2 and that had a Eluvian.


this i also don't see reason as well he should do anything we choose him to do and as well he isn't in game we can asume that one warden helped inquisitor but we don't see that or just sits on his ass and do nothing or something else.:)


Angrywolves wrote...

Better suited to the DAO forum.
Bioware is finished with the warden and hawke, despite the wishful posts of a few overly optimistic fans.
They won't ever return .
Not as playable characters or npcs.
Maybe
someday when Gaider is in a good mood he'll write something , maybe for
DAI, maybe for some future game where we players learn hawke's fate
and we learn the warden's fate.


To be honest i m little worried because some dev comments may imply that they will be in dai.i hope you are right . 

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 15 septembre 2013 - 08:21 .


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XenirAhlen wrote...

Some wardens including my own went through the portal with Morrigan at the end of witch hunt, apart from being fed to the god child i dont see how he couldn't be in inquisition. If not what could have happened to him?


I imagine my Surana Warden remained at Morrigan's side, along with their son (and their faithful Mabari Hound). It's possible that choice to remain with Morrigan will be reflected in Inquisition, since the Hero of Ferelden left everyone and everything behind, and Ariane and Finn were left with some "gift" from Morrigan, as well as the Dalish tome she stole from Ariane's clan.

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SergeantSnookie wrote...

When the Veil opens, Morrigan and your Warden will be forced back to Thedas through the tear, and while Morrigan can safely flutter down as a bird, your Warden will fall from the sky and break every bone in their body.

Insert Wilhelm scream.


Bioware, listen to his ideas! I implore you! :D

Modifié par Milan92, 15 septembre 2013 - 08:38 .


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I hope the Warden is in Inquisition. Annnnnd s/he just may be. There have been dev comments that are vague enough to still inspire hope. U:

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I can understand how there a lot of decisions the warden made that they don't want to spend time writing in for DAI but the witch hunt is a different case seeing as how it involved your warden going off with morrigan. At least some kind of explanation should be given as to where he went and why he is no longer with her.

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SergeantSnookie wrote...

When the Veil opens, Morrigan and your Warden will be forced back to Thedas through the tear, and while Morrigan can safely flutter down as a bird, your Warden will fall from the sky and break every bone in their body.

Insert Wilhelm scream.


"Ah, okay. There's my Warden's appearance. Now to find Hawke.."

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The Warden is taking care of other business (possibly taking care of OGB?) while Morrigan is taking care of things in Orlais.

I guess the Warden would have to be male and in a relationship to go through the mirror if I remember correctly.

So, he could have went back to help the Wardens with whatever important thing they were dealing with in DA2, he could have been captured and killed by the Big Bad in Inquisition (so Morrigan helps the Inquisition?), he could be making sure Morrigan's resources remain open in other parts of Thedas, he could be in communication with Morrigan and is conveniently away when the Inquisitor visits with Morrigan, or.... I don't know, we don't even know Morrigan's role so it is difficult to narrow down what her lover could be up to in Inquisition.

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Angrywolves wrote...

Better suited to the DAO forum.
Bioware is finished with the warden and hawke, despite the wishful posts of a few overly optimistic fans.
They won't ever return .
Not as playable characters or npcs.
Maybe someday when Gaider is in a good mood he'll write something , maybe for DAI, maybe for some future game where we players learn hawke's fate and we learn the warden's fate.


No offense, but I often wonder how people like you can be so certain about this...It's almost like you guys work for Bioware or something

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Even if you went through the Eluvian, Alistair and Teagan mention that the Warden's visiting Denerim about four years after Witch Hunt. Apparently it wasn't a permanent stay.

I like to think my warden's chillin' in Gwaren with the OGB, teaching him how to swing a sword and telling him stories about griffons.

Modifié par Former_Fiend, 15 septembre 2013 - 08:37 .


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I doubt we will ever know beyond what fans speculate personally.

The story of Hawke is far easier to close, but that said Bioware has acknowledged they have a responsibility to close the plot threads around the OGB.

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Former_Fiend wrote...

Even if you went through the Eluvian, Alistair and Teagan mention that the Warden's visiting Denerim about four years after Witch Hunt. Apparently it wasn't a permanent stay.

I like to think my warden's chillin' in Gwaren with the OGB, teaching him how to swing a sword and telling him stories about griffons.


Timeline wise, doesn't the Eluvian happen after Act III?

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In Exile wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

Even if you went through the Eluvian, Alistair and Teagan mention that the Warden's visiting Denerim about four years after Witch Hunt. Apparently it wasn't a permanent stay.

I like to think my warden's chillin' in Gwaren with the OGB, teaching him how to swing a sword and telling him stories about griffons.


Timeline wise, doesn't the Eluvian happen after Act III?


Witch Hunt takes place less than three years after Origins, putting it between acts I & II.

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Former_Fiend wrote...

Witch Hunt takes place less than three years after Origins, putting it between acts I & II.


Even if that's true, the imports were so badly b0rked in DA2 that I wouldn't put that much weight into it. 

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In Exile wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

Witch Hunt takes place less than three years after Origins, putting it between acts I & II.


Even if that's true, the imports were so badly b0rked in DA2 that I wouldn't put that much weight into it. 


Well, the Timeline puts it at two years after Origins(9:32 Dragon) I believe it's meant to be closer to three, but not quite.

It may well be a glitch, we'll have to wait and see.

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Former_Fiend wrote...
Well, the Timeline puts it at two years after Origins(9:32 Dragon) I believe it's meant to be closer to three, but not quite.

It may well be a glitch, we'll have to wait and see.


Thanks for the link. I believed you the first time, I just think Bioware's bad with timelines. See Anders in Kirkwall and Aramanthine for example. 

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XenirAhlen wrote...

 Some wardens including my own went through the portal with Morrigan at the end of witch hunt, apart from being fed to the god child i dont see how he couldn't be in inquisition. If not what could have happened to him?


We don't know anything about the nature of that other place Morrigan went to, but Morrigan hinted that it was incredibly dangerous. What if the Warden was killed during his time there?

Modifié par thats1evildude, 15 septembre 2013 - 09:30 .


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Bioware has said they don't want DA to be a series like ME was.
DA is about the world of Thedas and Dragon Age.
If old protagonists keep showing up in DAI, then Bioware runs the risk of them overshadowing the Inquisitor.
I don't expect Bioware would risk that.
I would like to see these developer comments that hint at the wardens or hawke's possible return .
Players who did the DR will probably see OGB.
The warden isn't taking care of OGB and we'll see that.
shrugs.

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Angrywolves wrote...

Bioware has said they don't want DA to be a series like ME was.
DA is about the world of Thedas and Dragon Age.
If old protagonists keep showing up in DAI, then Bioware runs the risk of them overshadowing the Inquisitor.
I don't expect Bioware would risk that.
I would like to see these developer comments that hint at the wardens or hawke's possible return .
Players who did the DR will probably see OGB.
The warden isn't taking care of OGB and we'll see that.
shrugs.


unless they end like revan :mellow:

http://uk.ign.com/ar...-save-transfers

"So does this mean Hawke and your Warden play an important role in
Inquisition? Darrah says yes -- but BioWare won't elaborate on that just
yet."

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 15 septembre 2013 - 09:40 .


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I keep seeing people so certain that they won't appear but multiple times they said IF they show up they will be NPC'S that we have a say only in how they look and that something happened in a plot we might not expect those were stated by Gaider.

Both Gaider and Schumacher said that them physically appearing is not off the table nor did they ever say they won't and as for why they don't give hints it's because according to Gaider "Some fans chafe at the mere mention of possibly giving them a role in Inquisition."

I'm not expecting or hoping anything but the only people who have a say in the warden and Hawke possibly returning is the writers not us, they aren't ours anymore, they don't really care what you consider your headcanon and said as much infact Gaider addressed this very thing awhile ago so no one can be sure of anything.


It's a "no matter what we do with them in the story as NPC's". They've already "disappeared", so you already have some going "but my X wouldn't have disappeared! They went off to do Y!" Says who? "Says me!" Well, too bad. As of the end of the game, you are no longer playing that character. "But I don't like that! You should leave that character alone forever, and never bring up any other character as a cameo unless it's vitally important ot the story (and I approve of their usage)!"

Again: too bad, sorry. We'll do our best to respect the choices that were made, but take no responsibility for headcanon with regards to what you believe those choices led to after the end of the game in which those characters appeared

Gaider 

http://social.biowar...ndex/17130247/4


I've said it before and I'll say it again: if Hawke and/or the Warden appear, they will not be playable. They are now NPC's. Ideally the player will have a say in their import state (and thus their appearance), but that does not extend to control over their actions following the end of the stories they originally appeared in. That said, I doubt we would go out of our way to have them do things which would be wildly problematic... but that really depends on what one personally considers "wildly problematic", particularly if they have very specific headcanon regarding what they believe their former PC's went on to do.



social.bioware.com/%20http:/social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/371/index/17301622/2

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 15 septembre 2013 - 09:58 .


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I would take comments with a grain of .
He doesn't say they'll show up in DAI.
The decisions and actions the warden and hawke carried out will have a big influence on DAI.
That's what I believe he means.
If other players believe it means the warden and hawke will show up in DAI, they're welcome to do so.

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As for spectre's post. which I didn't see, people can believe what they want.