I think most of us agree that Shepard has more important things on her/his mind than a random kid who died on Earth. That's assuming that the kid was real to begin with but that's thread for another day. I would have Shepard's dream depend on Shepard's past. I'm a war hero engineer colonist, so she'd dream of Skylian Blitz exect it would be on Mindoir. You play as shepard as a teenager, some of the enemies would be characters from previous games like Balak, Elenor, Merc I pushed out of the window, Toombs, Saren. Also it's a dream so why not have some EA fun with it? Have Shepard dream s/he's on that derelict reaper again but now it's filled with Necromorphs (If you have deadspace or something) What do you think?
What should have Shepard dreamed about?
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 08:23
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It might've been a good time to utilize the Psyche profile, yeah (seeing as it isn't very utilized at all). Even if it was just audio.. maybe Shep would hear batarians, gunfire, or thresher maws.. and screaming. Don't forget the screaming. Gotta have some of that.
I believe the child is in ME3 because Walters said he was inspired by watching Gladiator. Maximus had similar dreams, but it was his own family. Not a random kid.
I believe the child is in ME3 because Walters said he was inspired by watching Gladiator. Maximus had similar dreams, but it was his own family. Not a random kid.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 08:24
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It makes little sense for Shepard to suddenly start being torn up over such events in ME 3.
The dreams should have just been scrapped entirely.
The dreams should have just been scrapped entirely.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 08:27
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David7204 wrote...
It makes little sense for Shepard to suddenly start being torn up over such events in ME 3.
The dreams should have just been scrapped entirely.
Yep trying to take over characterisation through dream sequences should have been scrapped.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 08:33
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I could take or leave it. Especially leave the child though. I thought the dead squad members' lines were a nice touch at least. It was interesting what lines they chose to represent various characters. Some of them gave me the chills, actually.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 08:33
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David7204 wrote...
It makes little sense for Shepard to suddenly start being torn up over such events in ME 3.
The dreams should have just been scrapped entirely.
I agree.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 08:48
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My Shep dreamed about how he will find me3 lead writer.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 08:52
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Shepard should dream about becoming a millionaire inventing a new device that changes modern life as we know it in the galaxy, but then wakes up and goes mad being unable to remember what the device was.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 09:02
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Penguins.
Shepard is walking on the streets of Earth/Mindoir/whatever her backround is, and all of a sudden the universe will be taken over by penguins. Shepard will then watch in horror as the random child at the beginning of the game is devoured alive by a flock of those accursed penguins. Then it will randomly cut to a black backround with Shepard's LI. The two will embrace, and all of a sudden he will turn into a penguin as well; and explode into a bunch of little penguins.
Then Shepard will find that she is turning into a penguin by looking at her hands becoming wings or whatever, and then she will wake up in shock.
Shepard is walking on the streets of Earth/Mindoir/whatever her backround is, and all of a sudden the universe will be taken over by penguins. Shepard will then watch in horror as the random child at the beginning of the game is devoured alive by a flock of those accursed penguins. Then it will randomly cut to a black backround with Shepard's LI. The two will embrace, and all of a sudden he will turn into a penguin as well; and explode into a bunch of little penguins.
Then Shepard will find that she is turning into a penguin by looking at her hands becoming wings or whatever, and then she will wake up in shock.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 09:16
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For once I agree with David, scrap them.
On the other hand, if the dream sequences absolutely have to be there...then have the people that Shepard's lost or would be devastated if lost be there, not some random kid. For example for my Commander it would be Kaidan (virmire death), the rest of his squad from the Thresher Maw backstory, and depending on how far he got into the story; Mordin, Thane, Legion as well. Also some of his previous adversaries would appear taunting him, trying to weaken or break his resolve like Saren, Sovereign, Harbinger, even his own doubts in the form of himself.
All of this taking place in a destroyed city of burning corpses, Shepard's own personal hell not some foggy forest.
If the dreams were supposed to show how Shepard's starting to suffer from PTSD, might as well go all the way and make it grim and dark. As for why so dark compared to the rest of the game? Even in the most stalwart warrior, the subconscious mind can be one of the most difficult foes to best, also the most destructive.
On the other hand, if the dream sequences absolutely have to be there...then have the people that Shepard's lost or would be devastated if lost be there, not some random kid. For example for my Commander it would be Kaidan (virmire death), the rest of his squad from the Thresher Maw backstory, and depending on how far he got into the story; Mordin, Thane, Legion as well. Also some of his previous adversaries would appear taunting him, trying to weaken or break his resolve like Saren, Sovereign, Harbinger, even his own doubts in the form of himself.
All of this taking place in a destroyed city of burning corpses, Shepard's own personal hell not some foggy forest.
If the dreams were supposed to show how Shepard's starting to suffer from PTSD, might as well go all the way and make it grim and dark. As for why so dark compared to the rest of the game? Even in the most stalwart warrior, the subconscious mind can be one of the most difficult foes to best, also the most destructive.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 09:22
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Secretlyapotato wrote...
Penguins.
Shepard is walking on the streets of Earth/Mindoir/whatever her backround is, and all of a sudden the universe will be taken over by penguins. Shepard will then watch in horror as the random child at the beginning of the game is devoured alive by a flock of those accursed penguins. Then it will randomly cut to a black backround with Shepard's LI. The two will embrace, and all of a sudden he will turn into a penguin as well; and explode into a bunch of little penguins.
Then Shepard will find that she is turning into a penguin by looking at her hands becoming wings or whatever, and then she will wake up in shock.
Man this sounds like if Shepard, and Billy Madison shared the same mind. What do you get when you combine Reapers, and Penguins? I guess it would be something like that...
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 09:33
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The dreams should have been scrapped.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 09:54
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David7204 wrote...
It makes little sense for Shepard to suddenly start being torn up over such events in ME 3.
The dreams should have just been scrapped entirely.
Couldn't agree more. The dreams were a wretched idea.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 10:23
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In all seriousness the dreams made very little sense but would have been a lot less annoying if we could have moved at a faster pace. If you want to add something useless to a game at least make it so we can get through it fast.
In all seriousness the dreams made very little sense but would have been a lot less annoying if we could have moved at a faster pace. If you want to add something useless to a game at least make it so we can get through it fast.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 10:49
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I didn't need the dreams. Especialy the way they were made.
Each Shep is different, a dream with no options doesnt belong.
Each Shep is different, a dream with no options doesnt belong.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 11:49
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Odd......TNT1991 wrote...
David7204 wrote...
It makes little sense for Shepard to suddenly start being torn up over such events in ME 3.
The dreams should have just been scrapped entirely.
I agree.
Anyway, Shepard should have never cared about anything, as was said. You can let and entire colony get nuked in ME2, which had plenty of children on it, but suddenly this one boy is the one that breaks them? Really?
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 12:31
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Brilliant! You should alert the medical profession as you have just proved that PTSD doesn't exist - since witnessing a single event cannot possibly cause it, it is not possible for anyone to develop PTSD.It makes little sense for Shepard to suddenly start being torn up over such events in ME 3.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 12:48
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His or her love interest, maybe? Deceased friends? Virmire sacrifice?
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 01:01
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I can't believe that I'm actually going to defend David here, but that wasn't the point at all. The point is, Shepard has seen far worse thing than one kid being blown up. Shepard has done far worse things. Shepard has blown up his/her own share of little kids. It makes no sense for this one to make them actually care.AlexMBrennan wrote...
Brilliant! You should alert the medical profession as you have just proved that PTSD doesn't exist - since witnessing a single event cannot possibly cause it, it is not possible for anyone to develop PTSD.It makes little sense for Shepard to suddenly start being torn up over such events in ME 3.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 01:10
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Any allies who have died over the last three games (the whispers were actually a nice touch in the dreams).
The Collector base
Earth in flames.
The possibility of
The LI dying
The Normandy's destruction
The Reapers winning.
Alternate, (more) disastrous outcomes of Tuchanka, Citadel coup, Rannoch, Thessia, Horizon.
The Collector base
Earth in flames.
The possibility of
The LI dying
The Normandy's destruction
The Reapers winning.
Alternate, (more) disastrous outcomes of Tuchanka, Citadel coup, Rannoch, Thessia, Horizon.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 01:24
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AlexMBrennan wrote...
Brilliant! You should alert the medical profession as you have just proved that PTSD doesn't exist - since witnessing a single event cannot possibly cause it, it is not possible for anyone to develop PTSD.It makes little sense for Shepard to suddenly start being torn up over such events in ME 3.
It made little sense, even from a PTSD perspective, for a renegade Shepard, who butchered his entire team at Torfan, shot and killed his way through Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2, to suddenly grow a conscience. Even more so in Mass Effect 3 where he quite merrily allows Samara to shoot herself, then decides to kill Falere as well, finishes off Mordin, finishes off Wrex, watches Tali leap to her death and shrug it off. I'm sure a moral faculty has to be there to begin with for someone to become traumatised by extreme events - not traumatised by what is essentially a normal Sunday afternoon for renegade.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 01:40
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I'll have to agree with David here.
I'd also make note that the dreams were much more effective in conveying a sense of loss on playthroughs were Shepard lost more people during the course of the story (suicide mission with casualties, Wrex being dead, Virmire survivor dying during the coup, etc.) anything short of that made them feel really out of place and disconnected from Shepard.
I'd also make note that the dreams were much more effective in conveying a sense of loss on playthroughs were Shepard lost more people during the course of the story (suicide mission with casualties, Wrex being dead, Virmire survivor dying during the coup, etc.) anything short of that made them feel really out of place and disconnected from Shepard.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 01:42
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AlexMBrennan wrote...
Brilliant! You should alert the medical profession as you have just proved that PTSD doesn't exist - since witnessing a single event cannot possibly cause it, it is not possible for anyone to develop PTSD.It makes little sense for Shepard to suddenly start being torn up over such events in ME 3.
Except PTSD is actually illustrated through other characters in the story, like Corporal Toombs, and Lieutenant Zabaleta. It's one thing to show NPC's that are fixed to have serious emotional problems, but serious emotional problems should never exist universally for every path of a character whose behavior is optional. Shepard saw a colonist (if not Kelly Chambers) get melted in a tube. That is more nightmarish than watching a shuttle full of people get blown up.
David is right. The dreams were a bad idea, because they fix the character's emotional state to revolve around this one thing, which has a rather unpalatable side effect of resembling a premonition.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 01:55
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It's absolutely out of place.
Especially because the death of the kid has nothing to do with also witnessing the cradle of his/her species getting overrun by seemingly invunerable evil overlords who cut down each and everyone in rapid speed and not being able to stop them in the slightest. And of course my Shepard loves dead children.
Since it's unarguably canon that Shepard cares for his own species, neither availible background story or playthrough option makes for any possible Commander Shepard having seen anything even close in scale. On top of that, a colonist would IMO even be more vulnerable to snap right away than all the others. Not even beginning to mention that PTSD occurs for the most random of events. Etc. Etc.
Especially because the death of the kid has nothing to do with also witnessing the cradle of his/her species getting overrun by seemingly invunerable evil overlords who cut down each and everyone in rapid speed and not being able to stop them in the slightest. And of course my Shepard loves dead children.
Since it's unarguably canon that Shepard cares for his own species, neither availible background story or playthrough option makes for any possible Commander Shepard having seen anything even close in scale. On top of that, a colonist would IMO even be more vulnerable to snap right away than all the others. Not even beginning to mention that PTSD occurs for the most random of events. Etc. Etc.
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Posté 16 septembre 2013 - 03:26
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iakus wrote...
Any allies who have died over the last three games (the whispers were actually a nice touch in the dreams).
The Collector base
Earth in flames.
The possibility of
The LI dying
The Normandy's destruction
The Reapers winning.
Alternate, (more) disastrous outcomes of Tuchanka, Citadel coup, Rannoch, Thessia, Horizon.
I would accept even just one of those over what we got.
