The only way I was able to rationalize the dreams, at all, was during my mindoir shepard playthrough (I had to pretend she related to the scared little kid and had a rare moment of weakness) but that was pushing it.
Really if they had to implement this it should have been an interesting way to show shepard’s past decisions, enemies and loved ones. Not the same running kid...3 times.
What should have Shepard dreamed about?
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#127
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Posté 20 septembre 2013 - 02:26
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The underlying problem is that Bioware wants to consider Shepard their character. And it is.. For all intents and purposes, it is. It's just that they go out of their way in saying it loudly that it becomes annoying. They have no qualms about destroying the illusion that they don't make the old type of role playing games anymore. Crafting and controlling your character is becoming a thing of the past. Welcome the future of "cinematic flow". These things like the dreams are just a symptom of this underlying design.
Or don't welcome it. That works too. I'm still undecided. I thought ME2 was a good balance between developer and player control.
Or don't welcome it. That works too. I'm still undecided. I thought ME2 was a good balance between developer and player control.
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#128
Posté 20 septembre 2013 - 03:20
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I'd have no dream sequences in the game. Shep rarely sleeps and when she does its like a baby. No nightmares.
Maybe she dreams of a hot male love interest that should have been introduced to her in ME3.
Maybe she dreams of a hot male love interest that should have been introduced to her in ME3.
#129
Posté 20 septembre 2013 - 04:33
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I think the underlying problem is that BioWare chose to be very inconsistent.
They very much changed the degree of control you have over your character from game to game. I would never complain about Niko Bellic or Carl Johnson's dreams being something other than what I thought they should be, because it was established from minute one that they're not my characters.
Mass Effect however lulls you into feeling that you have a greater degree of control. Everything from the ME1/ME2 dialogue wheels to the career and psych history customization says this. If you can personalize your character's past, their decisions, their morality, and their personality, then like it or not you are in danger of feeling that you have more authority on what would haunt their dreams.
They very much changed the degree of control you have over your character from game to game. I would never complain about Niko Bellic or Carl Johnson's dreams being something other than what I thought they should be, because it was established from minute one that they're not my characters.
Mass Effect however lulls you into feeling that you have a greater degree of control. Everything from the ME1/ME2 dialogue wheels to the career and psych history customization says this. If you can personalize your character's past, their decisions, their morality, and their personality, then like it or not you are in danger of feeling that you have more authority on what would haunt their dreams.
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#130
Posté 20 septembre 2013 - 08:08
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StreetMagic wrote...
The underlying problem is that Bioware wants to consider Shepard their character. And it is.. For all intents and purposes, it is. It's just that they go out of their way in saying it loudly that it becomes annoying. They have no qualms about destroying the illusion that they don't make the old type of role playing games anymore. Crafting and controlling your character is becoming a thing of the past. Welcome the future of "cinematic flow". These things like the dreams are just a symptom of this underlying design.
Or don't welcome it. That works too. I'm still undecided. I thought ME2 was a good balance between developer and player control.
I certainly hope crafting & controlling your character isn't becoming a thing of the past. The noises coming out of DAI sound promising. Equally like you i thought ME2 did a good job of respecting player characterisation. I won't welcome or embrace the things i love in gaming being swept down the drain in the name of making games into movies(cinematic flow)
#131
Posté 20 septembre 2013 - 10:19
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abch4 wrote...
Dream sequence was fine
Nobody likes contrarians.
#132
Posté 20 septembre 2013 - 11:04
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The dream sequences would've been better, in my opinion, if they were like (or in some cases, exactly the same as) the clip that plays in ME2 Arrival if you wait for the timer to get to 00:00:00.
Variations on that clip depending upon how far through the game you are would've worked fantastically.
Variations on that clip depending upon how far through the game you are would've worked fantastically.
#133
Posté 22 septembre 2013 - 09:56
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Assuming Direct Control wrote...
The dream sequences would've been better, in my opinion, if they were like (or in some cases, exactly the same as) the clip that plays in ME2 Arrival if you wait for the timer to get to 00:00:00.
Variations on that clip depending upon how far through the game you are would've worked fantastically.
You mean this youtu.be/wYsUQqhvFdk
It's exactly what you see in thet dream youtu.be/wYsUQqhvFdk
That dream in slow motion youtu.be/wYsUQqhvFdk
#134
Posté 22 septembre 2013 - 10:23
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I just wish they were skippable. because going through them is torture.
#135
Posté 22 septembre 2013 - 03:17
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A slumber party pillow fight between Ashley, Miranda and Liara.
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Posté 22 septembre 2013 - 03:26
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No dreams. I didn't like them at all. I hated that they interrupted my game. That was very frustrating. And even worse, I had to 'play' through them. What point did it serve? Nonsense.
#137
Posté 22 septembre 2013 - 04:02
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Nightwriter wrote...
Dreams are personal. Make me dream about things that make my playthrough personal. People who have died, decisions I've made, etc.
Yes, yes, I know, the new players would have nothing to dream about, but what you need to understand about that is -- shut up.
I could get behind this. Honestly I didn't really dislike the idea behind the dreams, and I actually liked the idea of hearing your old squadmates based on who died, but I disliked that they were all the same slow paced run in the same dark place.
Maybe if the seperate sequences were different from each other, or had something related to your personal choices, like talking to someone you left behind, it could have had a little more impact.
#138
Posté 22 septembre 2013 - 06:05
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Here's what they should've done with the dream sequences.
- Check player's choices across all the games
- Show visions of peple who died
- Show visions of squadmates who're still alive
- make shepard chase them but making it impossible for him to do so because they drift away from him as the looming presence of a reaper closes in, and he wakes up.
- Check player's choices across all the games
- Show visions of peple who died
- Show visions of squadmates who're still alive
- make shepard chase them but making it impossible for him to do so because they drift away from him as the looming presence of a reaper closes in, and he wakes up.
