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[Steelcan]

And idk about you, but pissing off a powerful apostate (possibly even a blood mage) with friends in the City Guard and who works directly for the Viscount is not a plan with a long term benefits.

[Maria Caliban]

greengoron89 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Do you have proof that only 2% of the Dragon Age community would play as a dwarf?

The evidence would be that only 5% of players picked a dwarf as PC in DA:O.

We are the elite. The other 95% didn't play as a dwarf because they are unworthy of playing as a dwarf. :innocent:

Quality > Quantity

[AlexanderCousland]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Note there's an implication that when one says "I don't find black females attractive" that includes "of ones that I have seen."

There's also a difference in simply saying "I don't find black females attractive" and then saying "I don't like them specifically because they have black skin."

There's also a sociocultural context as well. I don't find people with neck rings attractive in the slightest, but there are cultures out there that do.

If a person finds that they don't get the physiological response for attraction for a particular physical trait, while it may be unfortunate it's also somewhat symptomatic of the environment and so forth. And honestly could simply be the way he is.

There really isn't a clear cut way to slice that one. For what other reason would one specifically single out a group of women and the give their identifying characteristic as the reason why they are a unattractive? 

I don't find BLACK (identifying characteristic) Women attractive. 

It's pretty clear to me, any other reason would involve you offering up some short sided stereotype. Im certainly not advocating that every race must be attracted to any race. But we can be honest with ourselves.

[Ryzaki]

Steelcan wrote...

And idk about you, but pissing off a powerful apostate (possibly even a blood mage) with friends in the City Guard and who works directly for the Viscount is not a plan with a long term benefits.

It isn't.

Hawke's possibly friends with: 

Mercenaries or thieves, an underground mage group or templars, Varric (and by extension I'd assume the mercent guild with some carta friends), city guard, Vicount, might have the favor of the Magistrate (if you decided to save his waste of space son), a local healer that even nobles go to for treatments, possibly a renowed pirate, and he has ties to the Qunari.

Just...why would you even poke that beehive? What do you stand to gain? 

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

It's funny how racism is such a thing we want in games as long as it's between humans and pointy eared humans instead of black and white. Everyone's like "I want the game to treat me differently!" whereas in real life people are like "stop pulling me over" "don't shoot me" "give me a job"

[Iakus]

Ryzaki wrote...

You mean the child they allowed to stay in their clan? That one?

I mean sure they wouldn't be pleased but it doesn't seem excessive. As for talking about anyone not just Merrill the discussion is about Merrill and Hawke. Merrill's done far worse things than sleep with a human.

Different clan.  And different circumstances.  Merrill is actually shocked that Marethari takes the actions she does.

Yeah I know this. That however isn't what I was discussing. We were talking about Hawke.

Hawke pretty much throws the rulebook out the window.  I mean, we could be talking about an apostate blood mage who becomes Viscount with templar backing 

Dalish are willing to kill outsiders because outsiders tend to kill/attack them. Even if you peacefully let the human in the origin group go they organize a group to attack your clan.

And this is just one example of how interpecies romances face inherent difficulties in Thedas

Modifié par iakus, 18 septembre 2013 - 01:54 .

[Br3admax]

FreshIstay wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Note there's an implication that when one says "I don't find black females attractive" that includes "of ones that I have seen."

There's also a difference in simply saying "I don't find black females attractive" and then saying "I don't like them specifically because they have black skin."

There's also a sociocultural context as well. I don't find people with neck rings attractive in the slightest, but there are cultures out there that do.

If a person finds that they don't get the physiological response for attraction for a particular physical trait, while it may be unfortunate it's also somewhat symptomatic of the environment and so forth. And honestly could simply be the way he is.

There really isn't a clear cut way to slice that one. For what other reason would one specifically single out a group of women and the give their identifying characteristic as the reason why they are a unattractive? 

I don't find BLACK (identifying characteristic) Women attractive. 

It's pretty clear to me, any other reason would involve you offering up some short sided stereotype. Im certainly not advocating that every race must be attracted to any race. But we can be honest with ourselves.

You used Beyonce, who is not what the typical black women looks like, as your defense for why this is true. Are you sure that you are attracted to the typical black women? Or just the ones that look atypical who become the face of black women?

[Bionuts]

"I don't find black females attractive"

Lol. Right. And I'm the queen of Antiva.

There might not be many black women you find attractive, but there are more than a few you'd drop your pants for given the chance.

[Steelcan]

Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

And idk about you, but pissing off a powerful apostate (possibly even a blood mage) with friends in the City Guard and who works directly for the Viscount is not a plan with a long term benefits.

It isn't.

Hawke's possibly friends with: 

Mercenaries or thieves, an underground mage group or templars, Varric (and by extension I'd assume the mercent guild with some carta friends), city guard, Vicount, might have the favor of the Magistrate (if you decided to save his waste of space son), a local healer that even nobles go to for treatments, possibly a renowed pirate, and he has ties to the Qunari.

Just...why would you even poke that beehive? What do you stand to gain? 

tah evul mage, arrest him

[citation needed]

[Steelcan]

Bionuts wrote...

"I don't find black females attractive"

Lol. Right. And I'm the queen of Antiva.

There might not be many black women you find attractive, but there are more than a few you'd drop your pants for given the chance.

I'm sure you are supremely qualified to tell somone what their personal preferences are.

[Iakus]

fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

It's funny how racism is such a thing we want in games as long as it's between humans and pointy eared humans instead of black and white. Everyone's like "I want the game to treat me differently!" whereas in real life people are like "stop pulling me over" "don't shoot me" "give me a job"

I don't think it's a matter of "want" as "want to overcome"

[RZIBARA]

Bionuts wrote...

"I don't find black females attractive"

Lol. Right. And I'm the queen of Antiva.

There might not be many black women you find attractive, but there are more than a few you'd drop your pants for given the chance.

please tell me more about my own preferences

[Xilizhra]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Except Hawke could romance Merrill in Act II, before the Qunari invade and before Meredith takes control of Kirkwall.

Merrill hasn't officially moved in at that point. And what exactly would happen? Just some unpleasant person saying something bigoted and then being unable to back it up with anything?

Hawke invites Merrill to move in with him (or her) in Act II. They are in a relationship. And having no one react to their relationship made as little sense as everyone being blind to apostate Hawke being an illegal mage.

How would you have done it, exactly?

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Except Hawke could romance Merrill in Act II, before the Qunari invade and before Meredith takes control of Kirkwall.

Merrill hasn't officially moved in at that point. And what exactly would happen? Just some unpleasant person saying something bigoted and then being unable to back it up with anything?

Hawke invites Merrill to move in with him (or her) in Act II. They are in a relationship. And having no one react to their relationship made as little sense as everyone being blind to apostate Hawke being an illegal mage.

How would you have done it, exactly?

Have MageHawke cut a deal with the Viscount

[AlexanderCousland]

Br3ad wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Note there's an implication that when one says "I don't find black females attractive" that includes "of ones that I have seen."

There's also a difference in simply saying "I don't find black females attractive" and then saying "I don't like them specifically because they have black skin."

There's also a sociocultural context as well. I don't find people with neck rings attractive in the slightest, but there are cultures out there that do.

If a person finds that they don't get the physiological response for attraction for a particular physical trait, while it may be unfortunate it's also somewhat symptomatic of the environment and so forth. And honestly could simply be the way he is.

There really isn't a clear cut way to slice that one. For what other reason would one specifically single out a group of women and the give their identifying characteristic as the reason why they are a unattractive? 

I don't find BLACK (identifying characteristic) Women attractive. 

It's pretty clear to me, any other reason would involve you offering up some short sided stereotype. Im certainly not advocating that every race must be attracted to any race. But we can be honest with ourselves.

You used Beyonce, who is not what the typical black women looks like, as your defense for why this is true. Are you sure that you are attracted to the typical black women? Or just the ones that look atypical who become the face of black women?

I dont know, but then again I'm not sure wether Im attracted to White women or just the ones that look atypical and become the face of White Women either?!?!

I mean, Jessica Biel and Kate Upton arent your everyday kind of White girls.

[Br3admax]

Bionuts wrote...

"I don't find black females attractive"

Lol. Right. And I'm the queen of Antiva.

There might not be many black women you find attractive, but there are more than a few you'd drop your pants for given the chance.

What are their names? I think I might want to write this down. 

[Ryzaki]

iakus wrote...

Different clan.  And different circumstances.  Merrill is actually shocked that Marethari takes the actions she does.

to be frank Merrill kind of is a racist douche at times. "She'd invite that filthy half blood into the clan but not me?" Nice Merrill real nice.

What do you mean different clan? Merrill's clan is the clan from the DAO origin.

Zatharian's clan had negative run ins with humans as well.

Hawke pretty much throws the rulebook out the window.  I mean, we could be talking about an apostate blood mage who becomes Viscount with templar backing 

I know which is why my reaction to the whole "Merrill and Hawke not experiencing discrimination is weird" thing was... "wait what?" 

And this is just one example of how interpecies romances face inherent difficulties in Thedas

Yep. They still occur though. Not to mention the PC probably isn't going to be around his/her clan. Now sure said clan can express displeasure but it's not like you're gonna be sticking around long enough for it to be a problem.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 18 septembre 2013 - 02:01 .

[Bionuts]

Steelcan wrote...


I'm sure you are supremely qualified to tell somone what their personal preferences are.

People can talk all about what they prefer, I don't care. We all have preferences. Hell, if it was up to me, I'd be marrying a live version of Lara Croft. Not happening.

At the end of the day, if you're a man that is attracted to women (I'm not a woman, so leave me out of that), and a hot black female is in her bikini next to you, you're going to be sexually aroused. Unless you close your mind off.

[Br3admax]

FreshIstay wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Note there's an implication that when one says "I don't find black females attractive" that includes "of ones that I have seen."

There's also a difference in simply saying "I don't find black females attractive" and then saying "I don't like them specifically because they have black skin."

There's also a sociocultural context as well. I don't find people with neck rings attractive in the slightest, but there are cultures out there that do.

If a person finds that they don't get the physiological response for attraction for a particular physical trait, while it may be unfortunate it's also somewhat symptomatic of the environment and so forth. And honestly could simply be the way he is.

There really isn't a clear cut way to slice that one. For what other reason would one specifically single out a group of women and the give their identifying characteristic as the reason why they are a unattractive? 

I don't find BLACK (identifying characteristic) Women attractive. 

It's pretty clear to me, any other reason would involve you offering up some short sided stereotype. Im certainly not advocating that every race must be attracted to any race. But we can be honest with ourselves.

You used Beyonce, who is not what the typical black women looks like, as your defense for why this is true. Are you sure that you are attracted to the typical black women? Or just the ones that look atypical who become the face of black women?

I dont know, but then again I'm not sure wether Im attracted to White women or just the ones that look atypical and become the face of White Women either?!?!

I mean, Jessica Biel and Kate Upton arent your everyday kind of White girls.

That was kind of my point. What exactly about the average "ethnic woman" do you find attractive. I'm not saying that you shouldn't, just asking. 

[Ryzaki]

Steelcan wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

And idk about you, but pissing off a powerful apostate (possibly even a blood mage) with friends in the City Guard and who works directly for the Viscount is not a plan with a long term benefits.

It isn't.

Hawke's possibly friends with: 

Mercenaries or thieves, an underground mage group or templars, Varric (and by extension I'd assume the mercent guild with some carta friends), city guard, Vicount, might have the favor of the Magistrate (if you decided to save his waste of space son), a local healer that even nobles go to for treatments, possibly a renowed pirate, and he has ties to the Qunari.

Just...why would you even poke that beehive? What do you stand to gain? 

tah evul mage, arrest him

[citation needed]

Heck Hawke would probably stand there with a staff a lit on his back going . "Mage? What mage? He's clearly insane" and the templars will agree and drag the poor screaming noble away.

[Flurdt Vash]

Wait wait wait ... I thought we were getting to play the Kossith race not necessarily Qunari?

[Steelcan]

Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

And idk about you, but pissing off a powerful apostate (possibly even a blood mage) with friends in the City Guard and who works directly for the Viscount is not a plan with a long term benefits.

It isn't.

Hawke's possibly friends with: 

Mercenaries or thieves, an underground mage group or templars, Varric (and by extension I'd assume the mercent guild with some carta friends), city guard, Vicount, might have the favor of the Magistrate (if you decided to save his waste of space son), a local healer that even nobles go to for treatments, possibly a renowed pirate, and he has ties to the Qunari.

Just...why would you even poke that beehive? What do you stand to gain? 

tah evul mage, arrest him

[citation needed]

Heck Hawke would probably stand there with a staff a lit on his back going . "Mage? What mage? He's clearly insane" and the templars will agree and drag the poor screaming noble away.

The templars could walk in on a blood sacrifice in the Hawke basement and he'd still convince them otherwise.  Not sure to who's credit that speaks more to...