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Bionuts wrote...

People can talk all about what they prefer, I don't care. We all have preferences. Hell, if it was up to me, I'd be marrying a live version of Lara Croft. Not happening.

At the end of the day, if you're a man that is attracted to women (I'm not a woman, so leave me out of that), and a hot black female is in her bikini next to you, you're going to be sexually aroused. Unless you close your mind off.


The word "hot" is supremely subjective. You may find [insert black female celebrity here] "hot" while I don't at all.

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Bionuts wrote...

People can talk all about what they prefer, I don't care. We all have preferences. Hell, if it was up to me, I'd be marrying a live version of Lara Croft. Not happening.

At the end of the day, if you're a man that is attracted to women (I'm not a woman, so leave me out of that), and a hot black female is in her bikini next to you, you're going to be sexually aroused. Unless you close your mind off.

ummmmm no, some people are just not attracted to certain types.

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Bionuts wrote...


People can talk all about what they prefer, I don't care. We all have preferences. Hell, if it was up to me, I'd be marrying a live version of Lara Croft. Not happening.


Which version are we talking about? Cause if it's the 2013 version, I'm afraid you're gonna have to get past me.



Bionuts wrote...
At the end of the day, if you're a man that is attracted to women (I'm not a woman, so leave me out of that), and a hot black female is in her bikini next to you, you're going to be sexually aroused. Unless you close your mind off.


See, 'hot' is subjective.
I'm a woman that is attracted to women, but I don't get hot and bothered because a woman in a bikini stands next to me, especially if I'm not attracted to her.

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Wait wait wait ... I thought we were getting to play the Kossith race not necessarily Qunari?


"Kossith" is a nonsense word. Qunari refers to the race as well as the philosophy, we've been told.

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Flurdt07 wrote...

Wait wait wait ... I thought we were getting to play the Kossith race not necessarily Qunari?


We are.
People here just like to argue.

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Really surprised Schumacher didn't lock the thread.
But I'm sure he'll watch for a little bit to see if things get out of hand.
The "I'm not attracted to black females because a) I've never met the right one, B) It's impossible for me to ever be attracted to one, or c) I don't like black skin color/or possibly other racial features common to black people .
That's that poster's choice .
Not mine. I'm a hopeless romantic .
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Except Hawke could romance Merrill in Act II, before the Qunari invade and before Meredith takes control of Kirkwall.

Merrill hasn't officially moved in at that point. And what exactly would happen? Just some unpleasant person saying something bigoted and then being unable to back it up with anything?


Hawke invites Merrill to move in with him (or her) in Act II. They are in a relationship. And having no one react to their relationship made as little sense as everyone being blind to apostate Hawke being an illegal mage.

How would you have done it, exactly?


Merrill's codex entry in Act 3:
Merrill moved into Hawke's Mansion in Hightown ― and not as a servant, much to the horror of the neighbours. She further scandalized the neighborhood by wandering around with no shoes on, picking the flowers out of other people's gardens, and cooing cheerfully at their attack dogs. Several angry letters were sent to the Champion and the seneschal, but the situation remains unchanged. She continues to return to her ramshakle house in the alienage, spending a great deal of time working on her mirror

This might have been cool to see rather than just read about.

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Angrywolves wrote...

Really surprised Schumacher didn't lock the thread.
But I'm sure he'll watch for a little bit to see if things get out of hand.
The "I'm not attracted to black females because a) I've never met the right one, B) It's impossible for me to ever be attracted to one, or c) I don't like black skin color/or possibly other racial features common to black people .
That's that poster's choice .
Not mine. I'm a hopeless romantic .
smiles.


It's not hostile...yet.
Though I guess it is rather off-topic. I'd actually be grateful if this got locked so I can stop sitting in front of my computer like some addict and go to bed. It's 4 am. :crying:

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I can assure you that it has nothing to do with c) when I say that I find white women more attractive.

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I'm also curious about how much time any of you even spend around African-Americans. If you grew up in a community with many of them, or spent years around thousands of them, you'd know that their features are not all so stereotypical (not a bad thing, but still).

Apart from her overall beauty, Beyonce has typical African-American features. Her skin color is a bit light, but her features are common.

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Sorry, but' s it's pretty racist to say a whole group of females are unattractive because of their skin color. It's not racist to say, "I usually dont prefer black women",  It is very racist to say every single woman who is black is unattractive because she is black. It's perfectly fine to have preferences though. 


Sorry, i disagree completely. My attraction or lack therof has no bearing whatsoever on how I treat someone, or even how much i like them as a person--hence, it's not racism. 


Oh, okay let's just say "prejudice against" dating black women, I mean if Kerry Hilson asked you for a date you'd be like "hey sorry your black skin makes your kind unattractive to me" and then deny all of her friends because they may be black as well, yea your right...not racist at all. Sorry.

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The templars could walk in on a blood sacrifice in the Hawke basement and he'd still convince them otherwise.  Not sure to who's credit that speaks more to...


Considering Cullen can be wardened about Anders bomb...yeah...

As for the attraction arguement eh I can't say anything. I find plenty of people attractive. Now would I sleep with them is a different matter but it's not much for me to find someone good looking. You can appreciate aesthetics without wanting to sleep with someone.

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And idk about you, but pissing off a powerful apostate (possibly even a blood mage) with friends in the City Guard and who works directly for the Viscount is not a plan with a long term benefits.


There's a trope for that.

At any rate, I think if you're in an interracial relationship it should be acknowledged... even if it's a one-off line about how it doesn't change your feelings for that person. It doesn't have to be something huge that'll take away from one's enjoyment of the romance; as I said before, I always liked Alistair's fretful "I was worried you'd think I was too tall" comment to dwarf PCs. Even Gamlen's inappropriate (inappropriate IRL, I mean... obviously it was true to his character, lol) comment to m!Hawke romancing Fenris: "So... you're into elves, huh? Guess I don't have to ask which one of you's the girl..." It's all about context.

But what I can't understand is why some people would rather have, say, four love interests... and have one or two or ALL of them say, "I just don't do dwarves." Why not make an NPC who says that? Why does it have to be a romanceable character, one of approximately four people in the entire WORLD who might be interested in your PC, who turns around and says... "NOPE, you have pointy ears, gtfo."

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What I hate most is that of all the aspects of the games that Bioware offer, it's the romance threads that get the most posts.

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Bionuts wrote...

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I'm sure you are supremely qualified to tell somone what their personal preferences are.


People can talk all about what they prefer, I don't care. We all have preferences. Hell, if it was up to me, I'd be marrying a live version of Lara Croft. Not happening.

At the end of the day, if you're a man that is attracted to women (I'm not a woman, so leave me out of that), and a hot black female is in her bikini next to you, you're going to be sexually aroused. Unless you close your mind off.


Maybe he would, but I believe that we humans, as fairly rational beings, are capable of not shagging everything that arouses us, so there is a fundamental difference between what arouses someone and who will said someone be willing to be intimate with.

Modifié par Gwydden, 18 septembre 2013 - 02:14 .


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Blackrising wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Really surprised Schumacher didn't lock the thread.
But I'm sure he'll watch for a little bit to see if things get out of hand.
The "I'm not attracted to black females because a) I've never met the right one, B) It's impossible for me to ever be attracted to one, or c) I don't like black skin color/or possibly other racial features common to black people .
That's that poster's choice .
Not mine. I'm a hopeless romantic .
smiles.


It's not hostile...yet.
Though I guess it is rather off-topic. I'd actually be grateful if this got locked so I can stop sitting in front of my computer like some addict and go to bed. It's 4 am. :crying:


You weren't here for the 4th page till 7-8th page. All the fun posts are in there. Feel free to torture yourself ^_^


*I'm kidding. DO NOT GO THERE.

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Bionuts wrote...

I'm also curious about how much time any of you even spend around African-Americans. If you grew up in a community with many of them, or spent years around thousands of them, you'd know that their features are not all so stereotypical (not a bad thing, but still).

Apart from her overall beauty, Beyonce has typical African-American features. Her skin color is a bit light, but her features are common.

I'm black. Your argument just died. 

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iakus wrote...
Merrill's codex entry in Act 3:
Merrill moved into Hawke's Mansion in Hightown ― and not as a servant, much to the horror of the neighbours. She further scandalized the neighborhood by wandering around with no shoes on, picking the flowers out of other people's gardens, and cooing cheerfully at their attack dogs. Several angry letters were sent to the Champion and the seneschal, but the situation remains unchanged. She continues to return to her ramshakle house in the alienage, spending a great deal of time working on her mirror

This might have been cool to see rather than just read about.


lol I'm thinking the angry letters were more of the result of her being in people's privacy and having no concept of personal property than anything.

But yeah nothing serious like I expected. And as expected no one else (other than said nobles) gave much of a damn. XD

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EntropicAngel wrote...

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Sorry, but' s it's pretty racist to say a whole group of females are unattractive because of their skin color. It's not racist to say, "I usually dont prefer black women",  It is very racist to say every single woman who is black is unattractive because she is black. It's perfectly fine to have preferences though. 


Sorry, i disagree completely. My attraction or lack therof has no bearing whatsoever on how I treat someone, or even how much i like them as a person--hence, it's not racism. 

I don't know, you don't necessarily have to be a **** to be a racist, you just have to treat someone differently. So your statement does sound racist if you're announcing that "all black women are unattractive, I would never date someone if they were black". You've already universally discounted every black women in existence simply due to their being black.

On the other hand, if what you really meant was more of an observation, ie. "so far I have not seem found any black women attractive at all" then no that's not racist.

I also think it's appalling how everyone one of these threads discussing fictional "race" (more like species or sub-species actually) devolves into a discussion about the unattractiveness of black women. I can't criticise how people feel, but it is sad nonetheless.

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FreshIstay wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

FreshIstay wrote...

Sorry, but' s it's pretty racist to say a whole group of females are unattractive because of their skin color. It's not racist to say, "I usually dont prefer black women",  It is very racist to say every single woman who is black is unattractive because she is black. It's perfectly fine to have preferences though. 


Sorry, i disagree completely. My attraction or lack therof has no bearing whatsoever on how I treat someone, or even how much i like them as a person--hence, it's not racism. 


Oh, okay let's just say "prejudice against" dating black women, I mean if Kerry Hilson asked you for a date you'd be like "hey sorry your black skin makes your kind unattractive to me" and then deny all of her friends because they may be black as well, yea your right...not racist at all. Sorry.


This sounds more like you trying to find a reason to call someone a racist

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Zkyire wrote...

What I hate most is that of all the aspects of the games that Bioware offer, it's the romance threads that get the most posts.

So make your own thread and post in it.

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I'd be more curious to see the neighbor's reactions to Isabella moving in

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Plaintiff wrote...

Zkyire wrote...

What I hate most is that of all the aspects of the games that Bioware offer, it's the romance threads that get the most posts.

So make your own thread and post in it.

And you failed to mention either blackjack or hookers, 0/10

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I'm black. Your argument just died. 


No it didn't. I've spent more time around African-Americans than you, most likely.

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Steelcan wrote...

I'd be more curious to see the neighbor's reactions to Isabella moving in


"Honey our neighbor is bring hookers into their home" :P