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Plaintiff wrote...
So make your own thread and post in it.Zkyire wrote...
What I hate most is that of all the aspects of the games that Bioware offer, it's the romance threads that get the most posts.
Modifié par Zkyire, 18 septembre 2013 - 02:18 .
mutant_anemone wrote...
Steelcan wrote...
And idk about you, but pissing off a powerful apostate (possibly even a blood mage) with friends in the City Guard and who works directly for the Viscount is not a plan with a long term benefits.
There's a trope for that.
At any rate, I think if you're in an interracial relationship it should be acknowledged... even if it's a one-off line about how it doesn't change your feelings for that person. It doesn't have to be something huge that'll take away from one's enjoyment of the romance; as I said before, I always liked Alistair's fretful "I was worried you'd think I was too tall" comment to dwarf PCs. Even Gamlen's inappropriate (inappropriate IRL, I mean... obviously it was true to his character, lol) comment to m!Hawke romancing Fenris: "So... you're into elves, huh? Guess I don't have to ask which one of you's the girl..." It's all about context.
But what I can't understand is why some people would rather have, say, four love interests... and have one or two or ALL of them say, "I just don't do dwarves." Why not make an NPC who says that? Why does it have to be a romanceable character, one of approximately four people in the entire WORLD who might be interested in your PC, who turns around and says... "NOPE, you have pointy ears, gtfo."
Zkyire wrote...
What I hate most is that of all the aspects of the games that Bioware offer, it's the romance threads that get the most posts.
Br3ad wrote...
I'm black. Your argument just died.Bionuts wrote...
I'm also curious about how much time any of you even spend around African-Americans. If you grew up in a community with many of them, or spent years around thousands of them, you'd know that their features are not all so stereotypical (not a bad thing, but still).
Apart from her overall beauty, Beyonce has typical African-American features. Her skin color is a bit light, but her features are common.
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FreshIstay wrote...
Oh, okay let's just say "prejudice against" dating black women, I mean if Kerry Hilson asked you for a date you'd be like "hey sorry your black skin makes your kind unattractive to me" and then deny all of her friends because they may be black as well, yea your right...not racist at all. Sorry.
Now, to understand that we need to know the definition of discrimination.Miriam-Webster on racism:
1: a belief that ]race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race2: racial ]prejudice or discrimination
Miriam-Webster on prejudice:
an unfair feeling of dislike for a person or group because of race, sex, religion, etc.: a feeling of like or dislike for someone or something especially when it is not reasonable or logical
My family is also black. I lived in very highly populated by African Americans neighborhoods. I'm a part of the black student body organization at my college. We are all black together in our African Americanness. Did I mention that my ery extended family is also black. That's kind of important. I still find white women more attractive. Guess I have problems according to you, sense you know my life better than me.Bionuts wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
I'm black. Your argument just died.
No it didn't. I've spent more time around African-Americans than you, most likely.
Modifié par Br3ad, 18 septembre 2013 - 02:20 .
mutant_anemone wrote...
There's a trope for that.
At any rate, I think if you're in an interracial relationship it should be acknowledged... even if it's a one-off line about how it doesn't change your feelings for that person. It doesn't have to be something huge that'll take away from one's enjoyment of the romance; as I said before, I always liked Alistair's fretful "I was worried you'd think I was too tall" comment to dwarf PCs. Even Gamlen's inappropriate (inappropriate IRL, I mean... obviously it was true to his character, lol) comment to m!Hawke romancing Fenris: "So... you're into elves, huh? Guess I don't have to ask which one of you's the girl..." It's all about context.
But what I can't understand is why some people would rather have, say, four love interests... and have one or two or ALL of them say, "I just don't do dwarves." Why not make an NPC who says that? Why does it have to be a romanceable character, one of approximately four people in the entire WORLD who might be interested in your PC, who turns around and says... "NOPE, you have pointy ears, gtfo."
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Bionuts wrote...
I'm also curious about how much time any of you even spend around African-Americans. If you grew up in a community with many of them, or spent years around thousands of them, you'd know that their features are not all so stereotypical (not a bad thing, but still).
Apart from her overall beauty, Beyonce has typical African-American features. Her skin color is a bit light, but her features are common.
Ryzaki wrote...
to be frank Merrill kind of is a racist douche at times. "She'd invite that filthy half blood into the clan but not me?" Nice Merrill real nice.
What do you mean different clan? Merrill's clan is the clan from the DAO origin.
I know which is why my reaction to the whole "Merrill and Hawke not experiencing discrimination is weird" thing was... "wait what?"
Yep. They still occur though. Not to mention the PC probably isn't going to be around his/her clan. Now sure said clan can express displeasure but it's not like you're gonna be sticking around long enough for it to be a problem.
Plaintiff wrote...
So make your own thread and post in it.Zkyire wrote...
What I hate most is that of all the aspects of the games that Bioware offer, it's the romance threads that get the most posts.
Let us join togeher in our shared self hate. Admitance is the first step.EntropicAngel wrote...
I'd be in sorry shape if I did, because looking in the mirror would make me start disliking myself.
Br3ad wrote...
My family is also black. I lived in vvery highly populated by African American neighborhoods. I'm a part of the black student body organization at my college. We are all black together in our African Americanness. Did I mention that my ery extended family is also black. That's kind of important. I still find white women more attractive. Guess I have problems according to you, sense you know my life better than me.Bionuts wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
I'm black. Your argument just died.
No it didn't. I've spent more time around African-Americans than you, most likely.
Gwydden wrote...
Maybe he would, but I believe that we humans, as fairly rational beings, are capable of not shagging everything that arouses us, so there is a fundamental difference between what arouses someone and who will said someone be willing to be intimate with.
Eragon- wrote...
Blackrising wrote...
Angrywolves wrote...
Really surprised Schumacher didn't lock the thread.
But I'm sure he'll watch for a little bit to see if things get out of hand.
The "I'm not attracted to black females because a) I've never met the right one,It's impossible for me to ever be attracted to one, or c) I don't like black skin color/or possibly other racial features common to black people .
That's that poster's choice .
Not mine. I'm a hopeless romantic .
smiles.
It's not hostile...yet.
Though I guess it is rather off-topic. I'd actually be grateful if this got locked so I can stop sitting in front of my computer like some addict and go to bed. It's 4 am.
You weren't here for the 4th page till 7-8th page. All the fun posts are in there. Feel free to torture yourself
*I'm kidding. DO NOT GO THERE.
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...
I don't know, you don't necessarily have to be a **** to be a racist, you just have to treat someone differently. So your statement does sound racist if you're announcing that "all black women are unattractive, I would never date someone if they were black". You've already universally discounted every black women in existence simply due to their being black.
On the other hand, if what you really meant was more of an observation, ie. "so far I have not seem found any black women attractive at all" then no that's not racist.
I also think it's appalling how everyone one of these threads discussing fictional "race" (more like species or sub-species actually) devolves into a discussion about the unattractiveness of black women. I can't criticise how people feel, but it is sad nonetheless.
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Bionuts wrote...
No it didn't. I've spent more time around African-Americans than you, most likely.
Depends on what you mean by "black." I find a lot of African American features very unappealing to me sexually, but I'll still be friends with black chicks anyday.Ryzaki wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
My family is also black. I lived in vvery highly populated by African American neighborhoods. I'm a part of the black student body organization at my college. We are all black together in our African Americanness. Did I mention that my ery extended family is also black. That's kind of important. I still find white women more attractive. Guess I have problems according to you, sense you know my life better than me.Bionuts wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
I'm black. Your argument just died.
No it didn't. I've spent more time around African-Americans than you, most likely.
The bolded isn't strange or really unexpected given our civilization. (But that's a tangent for another forum). But do you find black women completely unappealing?
There's a difference in preferring one race and finding one completely unappealing.
Thought and actual game design experience and knowledge, which of course most players don't have.Fast Jimmy wrote...
Zkyire wrote...
What I hate most is that of all the aspects of the games that Bioware offer, it's the romance threads that get the most posts.
Nearly all other aspects of game design (and, hence, discussion of such) requires thought. Romance threads only require emotion.
Br3ad wrote...
Depends on what you mean by "black." I find a lot of African American features very unappealing to me sexually, but I'll still be friends with black chicks anyday.
Modifié par Ryzaki, 18 septembre 2013 - 02:23 .
AresKeith wrote...
FreshIstay wrote...
EntropicAngel wrote...
FreshIstay wrote...
Sorry, but' s it's pretty racist to say a whole group of females are unattractive because of their skin color. It's not racist to say, "I usually dont prefer black women", It is very racist to say every single woman who is black is unattractive because she is black. It's perfectly fine to have preferences though.
Sorry, i disagree completely. My attraction or lack therof has no bearing whatsoever on how I treat someone, or even how much i like them as a person--hence, it's not racism.
Oh, okay let's just say "prejudice against" dating black women, I mean if Kerry Hilson asked you for a date you'd be like "hey sorry your black skin makes your kind unattractive to me" and then deny all of her friends because they may be black as well, yea your right...not racist at all. Sorry.
This sounds more like you trying to find a reason to call someone a racist
Br3ad wrote...
My family is also black. I lived in very highly populated by African Americans neighborhoods. I'm a part of the black student body organization at my college. We are all black together in our African Americanness. Did I mention that my ery extended family is also black. That's kind of important. I still find white women more attractive. Guess I have problems according to you, sense you know my life better than me.
EntropicAngel wrote...
fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...
I don't know, you don't necessarily have to be a **** to be a racist, you just have to treat someone differently. So your statement does sound racist if you're announcing that "all black women are unattractive, I would never date someone if they were black". You've already universally discounted every black women in existence simply due to their being black.
On the other hand, if what you really meant was more of an observation, ie. "so far I have not seem found any black women attractive at all" then no that's not racist.
I also think it's appalling how everyone one of these threads discussing fictional "race" (more like species or sub-species actually) devolves into a discussion about the unattractiveness of black women. I can't criticise how people feel, but it is sad nonetheless.
The reason this is a topic of discussion is because it relates to party members having race restrictions. Just like real people have real life skin tones they do or do not find attractive, I put forth that party members can and should have racial romance restrictions based on party member.
You raise a good point--let's not forget the context of the discussion.
Modifié par Gwydden, 18 septembre 2013 - 02:26 .
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