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[zMataxa]

Mr.House wrote...

franciscoamell wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

mikeymoonshine wrote...

I assumed it was coz of Bianca or even just the fact that he wasn't an LI in DA2 but did allot of flirting. Therefore they had to make it clear that he isn't available.

It does not matte,r Varric has made it clear he's not into humans, if he is a LI and he can be romanced by a human, that goes against established canon.

Why do you care so much? Just don't romance him as a human. Problem solved.

You might buy this, I don't. Anything that goes against canon I'm against. You can choose to ignore it all you want, others don't.

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@Mr.House
Hey I would agree that preserving Canon is a worthwhile goal for such a compelling story.
But, problem in this case, there are NOT enough deep LI's around.
So in this case, because this is a form of chopose your own adventure and due to limited resources, the canon becomes more what each player wants it to be - to a point.
I think it's a reasonable compromise.

[Allan Schumacher]

Of course not, but not all people should be open to the idea. We've had non-LIs have this train of tohught in the games, why can't we have some Lis who do to?

That's fair. Though note, one person being open is not "all people" as well.

Note that my question was directed more towards the idea of whether or not it is logical or it makes sense given common attitudes throughout Thedas.


Is your issue, however, really that the romances are all available, or that they all tend to be the same?

[zMataxa]

EntropicAngel wrote...

zMataxa wrote...

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I'm curious, why would you say disturbing?

It's extensive sexualization, because sexualization.

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Always neat to see where someone else's boundaries are.
Thanx for sharing that:)

[Mr.House]

There is 9 companions, there is enough npcs to make a LI that is not Varric and start destroying his established canon.

If romances are that big of a threat to canon, then cut them.

[vertigomez]

Mr.House wrote...
What happens if Varric flirts with my human first, huh? What good excuse do you have then? What happens if all the LIs hit on my qunari first? It's happening in my game.

Plenty of people flirt for fun. You can choose not to take it at face value if it bothers you THAT much.

And "all the LIs", really? When has every single available love interest come onto the PC without the player's prompting?

[Dycho]

To OP, your first point responding to a dev can easily be pushed aside with the fact that the rareity IS rare. your the first inquisitor in who knows how long? I wish people would stop acting like if my character does it then its not rare >_> your pc is rare, as such your pc CAN be that exception

[Mr.House]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Of course not, but not all people should be open to the idea. We've had non-LIs have this train of tohught in the games, why can't we have some Lis who do to?

That's fair. Though note, one person being open is not "all people" as well.

Note that my question was directed more towards the idea of whether or not it is logical or it makes sense given common attitudes throughout Thedas.


Is your issue, however, really that the romances are all available, or that they all tend to be the same?

It's more to do with a character. A character like Cass would simply not be into Qunari. I fear that if she is a lI, the writers will scerfice her character just so she can be romanced by a qunari to make the romance people happy and I don't like that. In DAO Morrigan being able to romance a dwarf just didn't fit for me, there was other issues like making a chantry hating blood elf mage fanatic romance Alistair. This stuff hurts the character. In fact I find the non-LI companions better written because stuff like this does not happen to them.

Modifié par Mr.House, 17 septembre 2013 - 05:05 .

[zMataxa]

hhh89 wrote...

zMataxa wrote...


If logic is your primary concern, then perhaps - you should not have a blue Asari as your logo.
I'm 100% sure YOU are not an blue Asari, nor can you become one.
Peace out.

....... What?

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OP's opening page had as it's main underlying argument that logic dictates that race restrictions are logical.
To me, it seemed ironic that OP's avatar is a "blue Asari" - leading to the point that sometimes we don't like the restrictions of this, that or the other thing, whether it be our LI, or PC choices.

Modifié par zMataxa, 17 septembre 2013 - 05:11 .

[Allan Schumacher]

a) These stories are extremely rare.

How rare are events such as those described in Romeo and Juliette?

They should be done in great detail, because of sheer complexity of issues like love, prejudice, racism, xenophobia. Can developer team do this kind of romance and will you have time for that? It's easy to make interracial romance. The real challenge is to make it believable and not just some fanservice.

So for you the issue is more that they are the same, rather than the actual existence?

[Wulfram]

Mr.House wrote...

 A character like Cass would simply not be into Qunari.

Why not?

[zMataxa]

Mr.House wrote...

There is 9 companions, there is enough npcs to make a LI that is not Varric and start destroying his established canon.

If romances are that big of a threat to canon, then cut them.

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9 = That's only true, if you play as hetero, gay and lesbian.
As for cutting romances - there is only word that comes to mind - BLASPHEMY:P
I still think a half solid/half dynamic canon is a reasonable way to keep all of Bioware's fans more or less happy.
If it was perfect, we'd have no reason to be here

[zMataxa]

EntropicAngel wrote...

zMataxa wrote...

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Always neat to see where someone else's boundaries are.
Thanx for sharing that:)

You're welcome.

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Awwwwwwwwwwwww. 

[nightscrawl]

Star fury wrote...

There needs to be some restrictions in place for romances. I mean dwarves could romance dwarves only, same with qunari. Humans and elves can romance each other but not qunari or dwarves. Everyone can understand why, qunari have one thing called the Qun and they have very strict rules. Dwarves have a very rigid social system and castes. So it's only logical thing to do. Not even mentioning physiology. 
Also we should consider that Thedas has it's fair share of xenophobia and racism.

I wouldn't mind if it were a personality trait of a specific LI, but as a general rule for ALL LI? No. That really limits characterization, and doesn't allow for characters for whom such differences don't matter (like Isabela).

Modifié par nightscrawl, 17 septembre 2013 - 05:11 .

[zMataxa]

EntropicAngel wrote...

zMataxa wrote...

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Awwwwwwwwwwwww. 

What?

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Just liked the deft answer finished with a playful wink.  That's all.

[Fast Jimmy]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Why not?

She's a fierce Chantry supporter, and you may recall from DA ][ that the Chantry and the Qunari...do not get along.

Do two people have to get along in order to get it on?

[ScarMK]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Do two people have to get along in order to get it on?

According to DA2, no. 

[Fast Jimmy]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Do two people have to get along in order to get it on?

Erm....um...

You're joking again, aren't you.

Is it a day ending in Y?

[Star fury]

Allan Schumacher wrote...
How rare are events such as those described in Romeo and Juliette?

My guess is that such events are very rare. Not many couples will have determination to go against their families and society.

Allan Schumacher wrote...
So for you the issue is more that they are the same, rather than the actual existence?

Let's say I'm not sure they can be done with sufficient complexity and realism, if they're not a main element of the plot.

[Topsider]

A Qunari / dwarf romance would be strange to say the least, so it's probably best to have some restrictions. I know that rules out Varric if he's romanceable, but not every race should have the same options. That's if the goal is to make them distinct from each other. A different appearance doesn't always sell that you're playing another race - you need unique dialogue and choices limited to them... even exclusion when it makes sense.