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[maliluka]

don't "races" already frown upon you being in a relationship with another race anyway, its sort of like the forbidden object, typical behavior telling someone they cant have something just makes it all that more desirable. I could maybe see additional dialog added in from companions from the humorous to the shocked depending on the LI, but restriction based on restriction...Nah.

Modifié par maliluka, 17 septembre 2013 - 05:55 .

[Taura-Tierno]

lol, this is much more than being taller or more muscular. Qunari are literally beasts, bro.

"Literally beasts"? Beasts that look like somewhat overgrown humans (who happen to have horns), but are otherwise very much humanoid, intelligent and capable of feeling emotions? How are they any more "beasts" than an Asari, or a Turian? Quite frankly, I think Turians look much less human than Qunari. 

[esper]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Was Varric not dating Hawke because he prefers Dwarves prejudice?

Varric was not dating Hawke because he was not a LI for Hawke. That means he does not fall in love with Hawke.

If an party member is written to have a romance arc includced it means that they are written to be able to fall in love with the kind of person the Inqusitor is.

That likely (we don't know how many LI's bioware makes, but I doubt all nine of them are) means thats all the Li's are capable of being attracted to the race of the Inqusitor.

Who knows what limiters bioware will write into the game, but if the limits aren't there it means it is part of the character and thus realistic.

Also party members in DA have never been example of their race, they have always been exptions, or in special circumstances, if they weren't they couldn't keep up with the PC - LI or not.

[mikeymoonshine]

EntropicAngel wrote...

mikeymoonshine wrote...

Well she joined the Inquisition which has been described as being in oposition to the chantry. I don't think she will lose her faith but I believe she has grown tired of the uselessness of the Chantry. 

Plus you are assuming Cassandra will have a problem with all Qunari even those who do not follow the Qun

They adjusted their description of the Inquisition to be you can oppose or support--they aren't forcing into either position.

I'm "assuming" that about Cassandra based on how human nature works.

Well what I assumed was essentailly you are defying the chantry by setting up your own powerful organisation that does what it wants and doesn't have to follow the Chantry rules. 

So yeah a player can choose to support the Chantry if they want to but like with all the groups you have to earn/ demand their respect. 

Oh and the human nature argument was idiotic tbh. 

[Former_Fiend]

It's more to do with a character. A character like Cass would simply not be into Qunari. I fear that if she is a lI, the writers will scerfice her character just so she can be romanced by a qunari to make the romance people happy and I don't like that. In DAO Morrigan being able to romance a dwarf just didn't fit for me, there was other issues like making a chantry hating blood elf mage fanatic romance Alistair. This stuff hurts the character. In fact I find the non-LI companions better written because stuff like this does not happen to them.

We have literally never seen Cassandra interact with a member of the qun. And her statements in Mark of the Assassin seem to indicate that she can separate the difference between one of the big guys and gals with horns and a follower of the religion.

Mind you, I don't entirely disagree with your point. I just think that insteady of putting a blanket "NO" on the deal, the romance between Cassandra and a qunari should play out differently. They should acknowledge the fact that she's romancing a qunari and explore the implications of that instead of shutting it down.

Modifié par Former_Fiend, 17 septembre 2013 - 05:59 .

[Wulfram]

I guess I don't have a problem in principle with characters just not being into giant horny people or whatever, but it doesn't seem like it's a good use of resources.  And if LIs are to become more picky I'd very much rather they focus on the PC's character and actions than race.  No bonking Leliana after defiling Andraste's remains, please.

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Was Varric not dating Hawke because he prefers Dwarves prejudice?

When does Varric state his no-humans policy, BTW?  I only recall him proclaiming his loyalty to Bianca when he was turning Hawke down.

Modifié par Wulfram, 17 septembre 2013 - 06:00 .

[vertigomez]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Giant beings with horn that can literally break you in half with one swift motion and usually don't have any qualms about it? Yeah, I'd say my term fits the bill.

What makes you say that? As far we know, the qunari Inquisitor won't be a follower of the Qun. Why on earth would they not have any qualms with breaking their loved one in half? That makes no sense.

edit: And it's not like no one in-universe finds the qunari attractive. Morrigan flirts with Sten and Merrill says the soldiers on the docks are "easy on the eyes".

Modifié par mutant_anemone, 17 septembre 2013 - 06:07 .

[Ryzaki]

Wulfram wrote...

I guess I don't have a problem in principle with characters just not being into giant horny people or whatever, but it doesn't seem like it's a good use of resources.  And if LIs are to become more picky I'd very much rather they focus on the PC's character and actions than race.  No bonking Leliana after defiling Andraste's remains, please.

The bolded so hard.

[Sifr]

If I recall correctly, Varric refers to Fem Hawke as being a beautiful woman, even though he's not into humans as a general rule. This implies that he does have some minor degree of attraction to human women, but his personal preference is towards dwarven women.

[vertigomez]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

You made a lot of assumptions there, bud. I never said anything about an LI. If we know anything about the Qun, it's that it allows for the killing of anyone they see as dishonorable. That's really where the comment came from.

My mistake. The current conversation tract threw me off.

But, again... we don't know that our PC will follow the Qun, and even if they did it's not like qunari just murderize people for the lulz. You could gain Sten's respect fairly easily.

[Ryzaki]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

mutant_anemone wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Giant beings with horn that can literally break you in half with one swift motion and usually don't have any qualms about it? Yeah, I'd say my term fits the bill.

What makes you say that? As far we know, the qunari Inquisitor won't be a follower of the Qun. Why on earth would they not have any qualms with breaking their loved one in half? That makes no sense.

You made a lot of assumptions there, bud. I never said anything about an LI. If we know anything about the Qun, it's that it allows for the killing of anyone they see as dishonorable. That's really where the comment came from.

What? 

Are we talking about a Qunari follower of the Qun LI or a Qunari race LI. The latter has the same size issues. Also given Tal Vasoth probably don't all fall in line to one belief system how are you to say the LI is going to be like that? (and even if he/she was you think that's restricted to qunari? You think Isabela, Anders, Fenris, Varric would have any qualms about killing someone they thought needed to be killed? that's pretty much par for course for most BW companions).

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

Height differences can make it harder to kiss during intercourse.

I get the sense that Qunari kiss a lot.

What am I even...O_o

[Former_Fiend]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

mutant_anemone wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Giant beings with horn that can literally break you in half with one swift motion and usually don't have any qualms about it? Yeah, I'd say my term fits the bill.

What makes you say that? As far we know, the qunari Inquisitor won't be a follower of the Qun. Why on earth would they not have any qualms with breaking their loved one in half? That makes no sense.

You made a lot of assumptions there, bud. I never said anything about an LI. If we know anything about the Qun, it's that it allows for the killing of anyone they see as dishonorable. That's really where the comment came from.

Given the average body count our non-qun following pc's have already wracked up, I hardly see how that's qunari specific. Especially seeing as how they've blanket said that our qunari inquisitor will not be a follower of the qun.

Interesting note, in act III of DA2, Merrill will comment on how she misses the qunari being in the city because she found them "easy on the eyes". Merrill, the tiniest, physically weakest member of your party. Likewise, Morrigan was obviously extremely attracted to Sten, and Morrigan is also described as physically weak. And, both being mages, aren't exactly beloved by qunari.

[Former_Fiend]

Ryzaki wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I guess I don't have a problem in principle with characters just not being into giant horny people or whatever, but it doesn't seem like it's a good use of resources.  And if LIs are to become more picky I'd very much rather they focus on the PC's character and actions than race.  No bonking Leliana after defiling Andraste's remains, please.

The bolded so hard.

I absolutely agree. 

[Will-o'-wisp]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Giant beings with horn that can literally break you in half with one swift motion and usually don't have any qualms about it? Yeah, I'd say my term fits the bill.

Taking out the horns part I don't see any real difference between a Qunari and a very tall and muscular human.

The bold part is nothing more than an assumption of yours, so i don't see any justification for calling the Qunari "beasts", but whatever.

I personally wouldn't mind if there was like one LI who wouldn't romance a Qunari / dwarf / etc. because he/she just can't wrap his/her head around the PCs appearance, if it fits that LI.
But in the end, romance is about one's personality and if someone is written as an LI that falls in love with the inquisitor under certain circumstances, I don't see why the race would be that big of a deal.

Modifié par Poison93, 17 septembre 2013 - 06:16 .

[esper]

Former_Fiend wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I guess I don't have a problem in principle with characters just not being into giant horny people or whatever, but it doesn't seem like it's a good use of resources.  And if LIs are to become more picky I'd very much rather they focus on the PC's character and actions than race.  No bonking Leliana after defiling Andraste's remains, please.

The bolded so hard.

I absolutely agree. 

Agree. I just think it will be more fun, since its has some gameplay vesurs automatically be locked out.

[Ryzaki]

Former_Fiend wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I guess I don't have a problem in principle with characters just not being into giant horny people or whatever, but it doesn't seem like it's a good use of resources.  And if LIs are to become more picky I'd very much rather they focus on the PC's character and actions than race.  No bonking Leliana after defiling Andraste's remains, please.

The bolded so hard.

I absolutely agree. 

Yeah it was hilarious and a bit sad that Alistair would romance my bloodmage Warden who sided with the werewolves, constantly killed people for the lulz, eagerly took slavery money and let said slaves be sold off, and was an all around douchebag to anyone but him.

[lady_v23]

....no.

[Taura-Tierno]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Taura-Tierno wrote...

lol, this is much more than being taller or more muscular. Qunari are literally beasts, bro.

"Literally beasts"? Beasts that look like somewhat overgrown humans (who happen to have horns), but are otherwise very much humanoid, intelligent and capable of feeling emotions? How are they any more "beasts" than an Asari, or a Turian? Quite frankly, I think Turians look much less human than Qunari. 

Giant beings with horn that can literally break you in half with one swift motion and usually don't have any qualms about it? Yeah, I'd say my term fits the bill.

By that definition, there are humans who are beasts as well. There are men who are large and muscular enough that they could lift up a small woman and crush her. Not to mention what such a man could to to an even frailer elf. Does that make such a man a "beast"? A Qunari male would not be able to lift and break a large man in half, for that matter. Also, female Qunari seem to be quite a lot slimmer than male Qunari (there's a shocker). 

And some people are really into big, well-muscled men (or women). Not up to you to say what people are attracted to. 

[Iakus]

Ryzaki wrote...

Yeah it was hilarious and a bit sad that Alistair would romance my bloodmage Warden who sided with the werewolves, constantly killed people for the lulz, eagerly took slavery money and let said slaves be sold off, and was an all around douchebag to anyone but him.

The man does love his stone carvings

[Ryzaki]

iakus wrote...
The man does love his stone carvings

XD

Don't forget the Warden doll :3