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[Fawx9]

So after the nightmare that was the release of this game, over a year ago, Blizzard has been making tweeks through numerous patches to try and get it off of life support. Something that I think most large game companies would be hard pressed to do for a f2p game. 

This however has to be one of the biggest dev overhauls done for a single game that is at this stage of its life. I know you can look at it as them wanting to try and sell the expansion, but just think how easy it would have been to throw the towel in once they realized the design flaws the release had.

This has actually gotten me to consider following the development of the expansion more closely rather than just wating to see what happens with it for word of mouth.

Anyone else feel similar, or do you feel that Blizzard still needs to show something first before you take a look at the game again?

Edit: I'm a goof, here's a link to the news article they put out http://us.battle.net...pdate-9-17-2013

Modifié par Fawx9, 17 septembre 2013 - 06:42 .

[Beerfish]

What is AH, what is f2p (free to play?) ?

[Cyonan]

Diablo 3 isn't a F2P game, and I'd hardly call 2.1 million users per day on average over the first year as being on life support.

That said, removing the AH is not going to fix the problems that I personally had with the game, which Diablo 3 was the first Blizzard game I can say I was disappointed in and I've been playing their games since they started going by the name Blizzard.

I would say that this doesn't come as a surprise though. Blizzards always been willing to do pretty significant revamps of systems in their games if they don't care much for how it turned out.

Modifié par Cyonan, 17 septembre 2013 - 07:07 .

[Endurium]

I boycotted the game when Blizzard got rid of the steadily shrinking (offline) singleplayer button on the main menu. My gaming buddies didn't, and they suffered (repeatedly) hacked accounts and ultimately disappointing gameplay. None of them play the game anymore.

I still prefer Diablo 2, modded of course.

[BouncyFrag]

I've been playing the new Xbox 360 edition and it is really good. It doesn't have the issues the pc version has(auction house, drop rates, always online, etc). It also plays well with the controller and the roll action controlled by the right stick fits as well. This neogaf thread  got me to check it out.

[LTD]

Who would have guessed that a game where getting better and better loot is pretty much at heart of it all greatly suffers when you make it possible to simply  spend 10 euros to get stuff far superior to what you'd ever see drop in-game. I'm glad Bliz has the kahunas to get rid of such insanity. Unusual and commendable to see such gigantic change so deep in game design take place almost two years after release. We aren't even speaking of an MMO here.

I got a pretty  good amount of pretty unique fun out of Diablo 3. Playing it in nothing but hardcore mode was surprisingly exiting. Walking to a boss you have never seen, knowing well how single death of valiant  Barbarian means not only game over but in all likelyhood game getting entirely uninstalled and never finished, stakes feel so high that ridiculously low difficulty, ridiculous plot, ridiculous amount of ridiculously badly done repetition simply get overlooked.

....Still, it always felt pretty clear something very deep in core of that game is very badly broken.

And that dialogue..what the fuk. Seriously. Just..no. Seriously, if every single bad guy in this game spoke some un-subtitled fictional demon language, Diablo 3 would be 6% better and 82% less stupid. "Bwahhahaah, closing three hell gates is not enough because I has FOURTH hell gate you will not close!! You shall NEVER stop me Nephalem!!!!" Over..and over..and over again. Rubbed against your face.With total void of mercy.


I can well imagine removal of AH and other possible tweaks brought with expansion make D3 something non-broken. Story of my handsome awesome Hardore barbarian will prolly continue.. and he thought he actually got out of it all alive:(

Modifié par LTD, 18 septembre 2013 - 12:28 .

[devSin]

It was interesting to see the ways they were trying to work around having the auction house so completely devalue the actual gameplay, but I'm definitely glad they finally decided to just shut it down.

A lot of good stuff coming with the first expansion, it seems.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Too little too late springs to mind here.

Console versions are already decreasing on Metacritic and unlike some game developers, Blizzard actually deserves it.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 18 septembre 2013 - 12:09 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

I can't say what it was, but D3 couldn't hook me like D2 did back in the day. One of the bigger dissapointments of the last couple of years.

[LTD]

@ Elton John
I find it genuinely impressive you manage to find negative dismissive tone to use when commenting the news piece itself.  Game studio keeps updating, upgrading and supporting it's release almost 2 years after it's initial release and evidently plans to do so til unforeseeable future - > too little, too late!! Can you name a game studio more devoted to tuning and upgrading a released game than Bliz is?

Console versions of D3 are at 85++ score? I trust you aren't actually trying to pass user score of meta critic as indication of anything. I don't consider it as such a good game personally. Still, refusing to recognize how Bliz are trying hard..well, harder than anyone else, to tune and tweak games post release is bullshït. In this regard, they continue to set an admirable example and deserve our admiration as gamers.

Modifié par LTD, 18 septembre 2013 - 12:24 .

[Volus Warlord]

Meh. Diablo was never the heavy hitter that Warcraft or Starcraft were, and I was never a big fan of D2. Only played the demo for Diablo 3. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't a stunner.

All that said Blizzard is my favorite and most respected developer. But I hate their forums.

[Cyonan]

Elton John is dead wrote...

Too little too late springs to mind here.

Console versions are already decreasing on Metacritic and unlike some game developers, Blizzard actually deserves it.

It's decreasing in user review score, which is already a laughable measure of a game.

Not that I think it deserves an 85/100, but I'd probably buy a game based on how much I liked the trailer before I took the advice of the user reviews on that website.

[devSin]

I highly doubt Blizzard makes any appreciable amount of money from their minuscule cut of the real-money auction house transactions. If you somehow want to start spending actual money buying stuff that is not guaranteed to have lasting value, knock yourself out, but don't think it's actually incentive for Blizzard to keep running the thing in the interim. And as for the gold auction house, who cares? The loot will likely all be useless come the pre-expansion patch, but if somebody decides to farm for it now, so what.

It would be nice if they would just turn it off right now, but they clearly want to roll it out nearer the next big content update (when the loot game may actually become engaging). (And as they've said, they haven't even figured out the best way to do it yet, considering that it's being purged completely from the game.)

Your argument works against itself, since the major influx is going to come when the new content is actually released—and the auction house is going to be removed by then. Clever Blizzard, turning off their money-making machine before all the big spenders arrive.

Modifié par devSin, 18 septembre 2013 - 12:50 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Meh. Diablo was never the heavy hitter that Warcraft or Starcraft were, and I was never a big fan of D2. Only played the demo for Diablo 3. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't a stunner.

All that said Blizzard is my favorite and most respected developer. But I hate their forums.

I don't know about you but Starcraft II Heart of the Swarm did some stupid things if you ask me. That's not to say I think less of Blizzard but still, come on, Stukov infested? After he was "deinfested" and they way he came out of nowhere with another voice actor was kind of disappointing. They also forgot about Duran. 

Diablo 3 was a trainwreck from the start, no idea why they made it the way they did and I didn't even play diablo 2. 

[Volus Warlord]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Meh. Diablo was never the heavy hitter that Warcraft or Starcraft were, and I was never a big fan of D2. Only played the demo for Diablo 3. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't a stunner.

All that said Blizzard is my favorite and most respected developer. But I hate their forums.

I don't know about you but Starcraft II Heart of the Swarm did some stupid things if you ask me. That's not to say I think less of Blizzard but still, come on, Stukov infested? After he was "deinfested" and they way he came out of nowhere with another voice actor was kind of disappointing. They also forgot about Duran. 

Diablo 3 was a trainwreck from the start, no idea why they made it the way they did and I didn't even play diablo 2. 

Blizzard lore has been a joke for the past 15 years. 

That's not why you play the game.

[Isichar]

[quote]Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

All that said Blizzard is my favorite and most respected developer. But I hate their forums.[/quote]

 They also forgot about Duran. 

[/quote]

Duran was Narud. Same name spelt backwards, plus if you follow the story its kind of obvious.

[Vort3xX]

Well removal of auction house and loot increase won't fix how they f*cked up everything else, runes, auto stats, butchered characters. bad art direction, useless difficulty scaling which makes high level easy regardless of difficulty, they can keep their sh!t oh and i forgot forced normal difficulty which a f*cking 3 year old can handle.

Modifié par Vort3xX, 18 septembre 2013 - 09:41 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

Isichar wrote...

Duran was Narud. Same name spelt backwards, plus if you follow the story its kind of obvious.

That's boring, make him more obvious, I liked his old voice and appearance better. He should show up in legacy of the void. 

[SoulRebel_1979]

Cyonan wrote...

Diablo 3 isn't a F2P game, and I'd hardly call 2.1 million users per day on average over the first year as being on life support.

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Lol, really. No idea where the OP got either of those ideas. 

[Cyonan]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Meh. Diablo was never the heavy hitter that Warcraft or Starcraft were, and I was never a big fan of D2. Only played the demo for Diablo 3. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't a stunner.

All that said Blizzard is my favorite and most respected developer. But I hate their forums.

I don't know about you but Starcraft II Heart of the Swarm did some stupid things if you ask me. That's not to say I think less of Blizzard but still, come on, Stukov infested? After he was "deinfested" and they way he came out of nowhere with another voice actor was kind of disappointing. They also forgot about Duran. 

Diablo 3 was a trainwreck from the start, no idea why they made it the way they did and I didn't even play diablo 2. 

Blizzard lore has been a joke for the past 15 years. 

That's not why you play the game.

Outside of green jesus in World of Warcraft, I actually rather like the lore of Blizzard games.

but thanks for telling me why I do or don't play their games anyway.

[Chashan]

Volus Warlord wrote...


Blizzard lore has been a joke for the past 15 years. 

That's not why you play the game.

This good man here summarizes quite well my thoughts on the matter as regards Diablo's atmosphere, and why D1's was made of win:



And far as I am concerned, given developments of HotS, I am somewhat content letting SC end with BW's Terran campaign.

As regards D3, well...firing up D2 with Median running provides enough hack&slash-entertainment for me as is with mad WMD-skills and things going on all over the screen.

Modifié par Chashan, 18 septembre 2013 - 05:00 .

[Nole]

Good.

[Isichar]

Elton John is dead wrote...

Too little too late springs to mind here.

Console versions are already decreasing on Metacritic and unlike some game developers, Blizzard actually deserves it.

Have you actually read any of the user reviews? These people are complete and utter retards. The game is far from 0/10 and a 10/10 which makes up 90% of these reviews.

You know if a review is done by an account that was just recently made with no other reviews on it that gives the game a perfect score, or bashes it then it is obviously bull****. I would be seriously surprised if even 1/5 of these reviews for good or bad are actually legit.