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I just thought maybe it's the perfect opportunity for the elves to strike, since the human world is going to be more chaotic than ever. And the rebellion leader may even be able to negotiate a deal with the Qunari...

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Might want to fix that typo in the thread title, or I'm going to be expecting to see an invasion force consisting of elves named Hugh. :P

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The novel "Asunder" mentions an elven rebellion in Orlais, centered in the old Elvish capital of Halashimal, or however the heck you spell it. The Dalish elves are also supposed to be having a "gathering of the clans" at the same locations at the same time. Obviously not a coincidence. The upcoming novel "Mask of the Empire" will have it as a central plot point, though until that's released we won't know the status of it in Inquisition. Personally I'm betting that the elves have carved a foothold out of their old land and are ruling it while under threat from humans and demons, and as the Inquisitor we'll be able to decide to help them or not.

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Empress Celene of Orlais rose to the throne of the most powerful nation in Thedas
through wisdom, wit, and ruthless manipulation. Now, the empire she has
guided into an age of enlightenment is threatened from within by
imminent war between the templars and the mages, even as rebellion stirs among the downtrodden elves. To save Orlais, Celene must keep her hold on the throne by any means necessary.


Briala has been Celene’s handmaid since the two of them were
children, subtly using her position to help improve the lives of elves
across Orlais. She is Celene’s confidante, spymaster, and lover, but
when politics force the empress to choose between the rights of Briala’s
people and the Orlesian throne, Briala must in turn decide where her
true loyalties lie.
Alliances are forged and promises broken as Celene and Gaspard
battle for the throne of Orlais. But in the end, the elves who hide in
the forests or starve in the alienages may decide the fate of the masked
empire.

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AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Might want to fix that typo in the thread title, or I'm going to be expecting to see an invasion force consisting of elves named Hugh. :P


God, I'm so embarrassed right now...I'm gonna hide in the bathroom and try to forget about this total humiliation :(

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Northern Sun wrote...

The novel "Asunder" mentions an elven rebellion in Orlais, centered in the old Elvish capital of Halashimal, or however the heck you spell it. The Dalish elves are also supposed to be having a "gathering of the clans" at the same locations at the same time. Obviously not a coincidence. The upcoming novel "Mask of the Empire" will have it as a central plot point, though until that's released we won't know the status of it in Inquisition. Personally I'm betting that the elves have carved a foothold out of their old land and are ruling it while under threat from humans and demons, and as the Inquisitor we'll be able to decide to help them or not.


Yeah, I totally forgot to mention that, thanks. I think it's likely that Celene would choose to snuff out the rebellion in order to consolidate her power. But then again, she has an elven lover...maybe that'll make a difference...I don't know, interesting stuff though, very interesting.:wizard:

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I am looking forward to reading the Dragon age masked empire.. ^^ can't wait to see what happens with the rebellion and civil war, how that will carry over into DA:I , Well at least give me a better understanding of the civil war and rebellion that has carry over into masked empire^^, Hopeful get an chance to see the reaction of the aftermath during DA:I. as DA:I is taking place a few years after DA:2 and i guess maybe year or so after masked empire novel?

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Did Hugh used to be a Dallish elf but broke away from the Elven Collective to be an individual? I guess resistance isn't so futile.

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VampireSoap wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Might want to fix that typo in the thread title, or I'm going to be expecting to see an invasion force consisting of elves named Hugh. :P


God, I'm so embarrassed right now...I'm gonna hide in the bathroom and try to forget about this total humiliation :(


Uh, I hate to add more editing work, but you need to correct "rebelion" to "rebellion" too. Sorry, I'm a book designer so I kind of notice this stuff. *cough* At least you'll have a perfectly edited thread title now! But back on topic:

Laidlaw has said that a lot of different groups that could conceivably deal with the tear in the Veil are engaged in conflict with other factions in DA:I, and he seems to have implied that someone/somemystery group has been manipulating events.

Maybe that someone/that mystery group is at least partially responsible for stirring up more trouble between the elves and the Orlesian Empire? Given the already tense situation between the elves and the Orlesian Empire, I suppose it's not impossible that they might be nudged into a full-scale war with Orlais at least (by whoever it is that wants everyone to distracted from fixing the tear in the Veil).

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AtreiyaN7 wrote...

VampireSoap wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Might want to fix that typo in the thread title, or I'm going to be expecting to see an invasion force consisting of elves named Hugh. :P


God, I'm so embarrassed right now...I'm gonna hide in the bathroom and try to forget about this total humiliation :(


Uh, I hate to add more editing work, but you need to correct "reblion" to "rebellion" too. Sorry, I'm a book designer so I kind of notice this stuff. *cough* At least you'll have a perfectly edited thread title now! But back on topic:

Laidlaw has said that a lot of different groups that could conceivably deal with the tear in the Veil are engaged in conflict with other factions in DA:I, and he seems to have implied that someone/somemystery group has been manipulating events.

Maybe that someone/that mystery group is at least partially responsible for stirring up more trouble between the elves and the Orlesian Empire? Given the already tense situation between the elves and the Orlesian Empire, I suppose it's not impossible that they might be nudged into a full-scale war with Orlais at least (by whoever it is that wants everyone to distracted from fixing the tear in the Veil).

You remind me of my very first physics professor :wub::wub: He was always very strict when it comes to formatting...and I became a physics major because of him. Also, he might be the reason I've become much more lawful neutral over the past few years...:wub: (Going back into hiding)

And yeah, is Flemeth behind all this? Burn the witch! It's all her fault!! :lol: I'm just kidding

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And they'll call themselves the Scoia' Tael

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a7rivera wrote...

And they'll call themselves the Scoia' Tael

Not exactly the best name if they actually want to succeed at anything though I guess their chances of success are about the same.

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Your pick is from the Witcher isn't it

Also I won't mind an Elven rebellion. So long as they are enemies.

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Ausstig wrote...

Your pick is from the Witcher isn't it

Also I won't mind an Elven rebellion. So long as they are enemies.


I would imagine they're going to be an extremely paranoid group who's generally hostile to humans...So yeah, they're probably going to be enemies, especially when the inquisitor's traveling with dozens of human soldiers.

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VampireSoap wrote...

Ausstig wrote...

Your pick is from the Witcher isn't it

Also I won't mind an Elven rebellion. So long as they are enemies.


I would imagine they're going to be an extremely paranoid group who's generally hostile to humans...So yeah, they're probably going to be enemies, especially when the inquisitor's traveling with dozens of human soldiers.

I would have them be a faction that can, and possibly must, be allied with.

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Ausstig wrote...

Your pick is from the Witcher isn't it

Also I won't mind an Elven rebellion. So long as they are enemies.


If my character can be Dalish, then I see no reason for the elves to automatically be enemies. I think an elven Inquisitor could be interested in helping the rebel elves; perhaps they are trying to reclaim the Dales while Orlais is in the middle of a civil war. If the choice is between Celene, Gaspard, or the elves, then I'd like to choose to aid the elves.

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I think that an elven faction is likely to be present in DAI. I wonder if there are two, though. The info we have so far about TME hinted at the possibility of the CE siding with one Orlesian faction. I doubt that the dalish would partecipate in the agreement.

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LobselVith8 wrote...

Ausstig wrote...

Your pick is from the Witcher isn't it

Also I won't mind an Elven rebellion. So long as they are enemies.


If my character can be Dalish, then I see no reason for the elves to automatically be enemies. I think an elven Inquisitor could be interested in helping the rebel elves; perhaps they are trying to reclaim the Dales while Orlais is in the middle of a civil war. If the choice is between Celene, Gaspard, or the elves, then I'd like to choose to aid the elves.


I doubt that the elven faction will be chosen against Celene and Gaspard, as I doubt that they'll let us destroy Orlais completely. It's more likely that we get the option to improve the elven situation (maybe with the restituition of the Dales) while still choosing between Celene or Gaspard.
Orlais's fate as a nation can't be given to the players. It's a too much world-shape decision to give the players the options of saving and destroying it, and it's unlikely that they'll canonically destroy Orlais.

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hhh89 wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

Ausstig wrote...

Your pick is from the Witcher isn't it

Also I won't mind an Elven rebellion. So long as they are enemies.


If my character can be Dalish, then I see no reason for the elves to automatically be enemies. I think an elven Inquisitor could be interested in helping the rebel elves; perhaps they are trying to reclaim the Dales while Orlais is in the middle of a civil war. If the choice is between Celene, Gaspard, or the elves, then I'd like to choose to aid the elves.


I doubt that the elven faction will be chosen against Celene and Gaspard, as I doubt that they'll let us destroy Orlais completely. It's more likely that we get the option to improve the elven situation (maybe with the restituition of the Dales) while still choosing between Celene or Gaspard.
Orlais's fate as a nation can't be given to the players. It's a too much world-shape decision to give the players the options of saving and destroying it, and it's unlikely that they'll canonically destroy Orlais.

Why not have Orlais be canonically destroyed and let us choose how?

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Becuase they'll not destroy Orlais canonically (regardless if we have the option to choose how to destroy it). Not that I care much about Orlais, but I don't think Bioware is going towards that route.

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hhh89 wrote...

Becuase they'll not destroy Orlais canonically (regardless if we have the option to choose how to destroy it). Not that I care much about Orlais, but I don't think Bioware is going towards that route.

Neverwinter got destroyed :lol: Just saying. But I see your point :)

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hhh89 wrote...

Becuase they'll not destroy Orlais canonically (regardless if we have the option to choose how to destroy it). Not that I care much about Orlais, but I don't think Bioware is going towards that route.

Why's that?

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If the Elves rise up and start a war of their own when the world is practically tearing itself apart, then I hope each and every one of them get butchered.

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I'm all for an elven rebellion.

Next up: the casteless!

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Xilizhra wrote...

Why's that?


First of all, the DAI setting. No matter the civil war (which, by the way, we can't be sure it'll not be resolved in the book), the elves aren't strong enough to destroy Orlais; neither is Ferelden, which is even weaker since it hasn't fully recovered from the Blight. Nevarra would be strong enough, but they seem to have their own problems, and it doesn't seems to be that much present in the plot. The demon threat is going to be solved by the Inquisition. 
In the case the civil war isn't finished, it's obvious that we'll have to pick a side. They'll not railroad us to support the elves (it's more likely the contrary). 
Bioware seems to want to give the player the freedom to choose which factions support. It seems unlikely that they'll not give us the option to side with Orlais (if Orlais has a rival faction to being with. It's more likely that the main plot about Orlais will be the civil war), which lot of people like.