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[The Elder King]

Zkyire wrote...

If the Elves rise up and start a war of their own when the world is practically tearing itself apart, then I hope each and every one of them get butchered.

Elves are starting to rebelling before the event of Inquisition. Asunder hinted at it, and The Masked Empire will probably expand the conflict. 

[Fast Jimmy]

Xilizhra wrote...

VampireSoap wrote...

Ausstig wrote...

Your pick is from the Witcher isn't it

Also I won't mind an Elven rebellion. So long as they are enemies.

I would imagine they're going to be an extremely paranoid group who's generally hostile to humans...So yeah, they're probably going to be enemies, especially when the inquisitor's traveling with dozens of human soldiers.

I would have them be a faction that can, and possibly must, be allied with.

Or slaughtered brutally, down to the last man and woman.

At this point, its tradition for a DA game.

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 18 septembre 2013 - 02:36 .

[Xilizhra]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

VampireSoap wrote...

Ausstig wrote...

Your pick is from the Witcher isn't it

Also I won't mind an Elven rebellion. So long as they are enemies.

I would imagine they're going to be an extremely paranoid group who's generally hostile to humans...So yeah, they're probably going to be enemies, especially when the inquisitor's traveling with dozens of human soldiers.

I would have them be a faction that can, and possibly must, be allied with.

Of slaughtered brutally, down to the last man and woman.

At this point, its tradition for a DA game.

Then it's time to break that. Try it with Val Royeax's human population for something a little different.

[TK514]

Zkyire wrote...

If the Elves rise up and start a war of their own when the world is practically tearing itself apart, then I hope each and every one of them get butchered.

It wouldn't be the first time they've shortsightedly ignored a global threat and left their neighbors to twist in the wind, and look how well that worked out for them.

[VampireSoap]

AutumnWitch wrote...

Did Hugh used to be a Dallish elf but broke away from the Elven Collective to be an individual? I guess resistance isn't so futile.

Nice star trek reference there :happy: I like it

[maliluka]

VampireSoap wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Might want to fix that typo in the thread title, or I'm going to be expecting to see an invasion force consisting of elves named Hugh.

God, I'm so embarrassed right now...I'm gonna hide in the bathroom and try to forget about this total humiliation

Sorry for your humiliation, but it did give me a nice giggle this morning after reading the correction... I can now see a plethora of people naming their elves Hugh so that they can join the Huge elven rebellion

Modifié par maliluka, 18 septembre 2013 - 01:40 .

[wcholcombe]

Hmm, I got the impression from Asunder that the rumored Dalish uprising was just a fiction created by Gaspard to draw Celene out of the capital. That was what Wynne thought anyway. I agree we won't get to destroy Orlais, it has too big of a role in the world. Likely, we will get to help one side of the rebellion or the other and possibly draw the Dalish support one way or the other. Something along the lines of they help Celene and she rewards them. They help Gaspard and he betrays them. Then again we may be so busy with the Tears that all this is just background noise that we don't directly deal with at all.

[Vilegrim]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

VampireSoap wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Might want to fix that typo in the thread title, or I'm going to be expecting to see an invasion force consisting of elves named Hugh.

God, I'm so embarrassed right now...I'm gonna hide in the bathroom and try to forget about this total humiliation

Uh, I hate to add more editing work, but you need to correct "reblion" to "rebellion" too. Sorry, I'm a book designer so I kind of notice this stuff. *cough* At least you'll have a perfectly edited thread title now! But back on topic:

Laidlaw has said that a lot of different groups that could conceivably deal with the tear in the Veil are engaged in conflict with other factions in DA:I, and he seems to have implied that someone/somemystery group has been manipulating events.

Maybe that someone/that mystery group is at least partially responsible for stirring up more trouble between the elves and the Orlesian Empire? Given the already tense situation between the elves and the Orlesian Empire, I suppose it's not impossible that they might be nudged into a full-scale war with Orlais at least (by whoever it is that wants everyone to distracted from fixing the tear in the Veil).

Where do I sign up to join this group? Freeing the elves and mages while tearing down the chantry? The first clearly and purely good actions in the setting so far. Removing the wall the maker used to limit peoples access tp the fade has been mishandled however. 

[Sir JK]

I wish to echo the sentiment that we don't know if this rebellion is even real, it could all just be a ruse by Gaspard despite everything. And even if it does exist, we have no clue what they stand for. If they want their own elven andrastian nation, the Dales restored as they were or just plain lowered taxes (or for that matter: everyone not them, including the player regardless of race, dead)

That said... I find the idea interesting. There's great potential in an elven rebellion, even if it never even rears it's head. Just visiting hidden groups, partaking in plans and conducting the very careful diplomacy of trying to get them to support your cause over the other but not giving them so much that the rest of your support vaporizes.

If they are a faction of their own, I agree with Ausstig in that I doubt that there'll be a three-way choice between Celene, Gaspard and the elves. I doubt they have the numbers for that, even with Orlais in civil war (though granted, I do not know this for sure). Instead I suspect that they'll have a separate conflict of their own.
I'm kind of hoping that their conflict is entirely internal. A conflict between the ones advocating war with Orlais, or those advocating remaining Orlesian but with increased rights and autonomy. Or perhaps whether it'll be a Dalish dominated state or a andrastian city elf one.
With both sides having their good points, their bad points and their skeletons falling out of the closet.

[Daerog]

Rebel scum! Crush the rebellion! Death to traitors!


I would like to see an elven rebellion/riot in game, and be given a choice to support or crush it.

[Reaver102]

wcholcombe wrote...

Hmm, I got the impression from Asunder that the rumored Dalish uprising was just a fiction created by Gaspard to draw Celene out of the capital. That was what Wynne thought anyway. I agree we won't get to destroy Orlais, it has too big of a role in the world. Likely, we will get to help one side of the rebellion or the other and possibly draw the Dalish support one way or the other. Something along the lines of they help Celene and she rewards them. They help Gaspard and he betrays them. Then again we may be so busy with the Tears that all this is just background noise that we don't directly deal with at all.

You might be on to something with this seeing as the gathering of the Dalish clans I believe occurs around this time.  I imagine that attacking this gathering would provoke the Dalish into a war.  

[myahele]

It's about time! After playing as a city elf I must admit that I was furious at their mistreament

[General TSAR]

I welcome it.

It's a perfect justification to completely annihilate the city elves and Dalish.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

So that's how elves in the DA universe will die out

[wcholcombe]

Vilegrim wrote...



Where do I sign up to join this group? Freeing the elves and mages while tearing down the chantry? The first clearly and purely good actions in the setting so far. Removing the wall the maker used to limit peoples access tp the fade has been mishandled however. 

Really?  Purely good?  So you loose Malificar on the world without any controls on their wickedness?  You would risk loosing countless abominations upon a defenseless public out of some misguided greater perfectly good?

As for the elves, I am not familiar with the Dalish being persecuted as they pretty much live outside of most human laws anyway.

(Sorry if that sounds harsh, but gotta stay within the response of the setting)

[Eterna]

mutant_anemone wrote...

I'm all for an elven rebellion.

Next up: the casteless!

If you pick Bhelen as king the Casteless have little reason to rebell. 

[wcholcombe]

myahele wrote...

It's about time! After playing as a city elf I must admit that I was furious at their mistreament

Their mistreetment?  They had their own country until they attacked during one of the Blights and were practically destroyed.

They are a conquered people living on the edges of society because of their own hubris.

[Renmiri1]

Why not ? Everything is already going to **** apparently...

[Eterna]

Only if we can kill them with Werewolves again.

[maliluka]

wcholcombe wrote...

myahele wrote...

It's about time! After playing as a city elf I must admit that I was furious at their mistreament

Their mistreetment?  They had their own country until they attacked during one of the Blights and were practically destroyed.

They are a conquered people living on the edges of society because of their own hubris.

No one deserves to be treated as a plaything to some nobles whim. If the City Elves joined in and rose up to fight more power to them. They are in a very adventagious position being "slaves" a little poison here or there in an un-suspecting nobles food source would certainly help on the inside. If the Dalish Clans joined together that would also be some interesting fire power

[Taleroth]

wcholcombe wrote...

They are a conquered people living on the edges of society because of their own hubris.

What country exactly did Shiani attack?

[Daerog]

Taleroth wrote...

wcholcombe wrote...

They are a conquered people living on the edges of society because of their own hubris.

What country exactly did Shiani attack?

Pff, you should know it's never about what someone did, it's all about what their ancestors did hundreds and thousands of years ago.

[Daerog]

maliluka wrote...

No one deserves to be treated as a plaything to some nobles whim. If the City Elves joined in and rose up to fight more power to them. They are in a very adventagious position being "slaves" a little poison here or there in an un-suspecting nobles food source would certainly help on the inside. If the Dalish Clans joined together that would also be some interesting fire power

Which would just give reason for rival human groups to join together, which would be more powerful than the Dalish can be.

The elves have no hope of winning by force unless they have the support of the other humans who they are not attacking.

Spilling blood has not helped them in the past, I would think they should focus more on gold this time, work with the merchant's guild or some rival of theirs, get some elves wealthy and place them in influential places to better the alienages or build more towns for elves outside the cities.

I'm talking more about the city elves, the dalish can remain nomads if they wish, but as long as humans populate all over Thedas, they will not have their isolated nation unless they take the northern islands from the qunari.

[Beerfish]

Fred: "The damn knife ears have attacked twice this past week. Time to call in the Tevinters, I hear they are short on slaves."
Ralph: "Yeah and after all we did for them, we fought off a host of demons near the forest last month, ungrateful brats."
Fred: "I wish they'd just burn down the damn alienage, if they want to be free let em go back to the dalish snobs, all the easier to round em up and put em down."
Ralph: "What's for lunch?"
Fred: "A piece of lichen bread with some old cheese and dried meat."

[The Six Path of Pain]

Ha, I am so going to become an elven inquisitor then put down the elven rebellion >

Modifié par The Six Path of Pain, 18 septembre 2013 - 05:21 .