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[myahele]

Didn't the elves of Arlathan isolate themselves due to the humans making them mortal and giving them diseases? Then the Tevinters conquered them and made them slaves.

Eventually they joined Andraste's rebellion and was awarded land near Orlais. After 200 years Orlais and eventually the Divine called an exalted march against the Dales; calling them heathens due to their religion (plus they were kinda winning at the time).

I need to re-read the lore, but as far as I am concerned the elves just wanted to be left alone and it is the humans that wanted to conquer them.

[Silfren]

I'm not sure we can have THAT many major plots going on, given we've got the definite plot of the mage/templar war coupled with the torn Fade, plus a civil war in Orlais, a strongly implied Qunari invasion, etc. But I wouldn't at all mind seeing the seeds of a major Dalish uprising for the next game.

I question whether the Dalish would be able to negotiate with the Qunari, however. The existing Qunari establishment has made it abundantly clear that total domination is their goal, no exceptions. It would take a major regime change, followed by a general shift in qunari philosophy. I COULD see that happening with certain key players like Sten and Tallis, but it's kind of doubtful.

[LobselVith8]

myahele wrote...

Didn't the elves of Arlathan isolate themselves due to the humans making them mortal and giving them diseases? Then the Tevinters conquered them and made them slaves.

Eventually they joined Andraste's rebellion and was awarded land near Orlais. After 200 years Orlais and eventually the Divine called an exalted march against the Dales; calling them heathens due to their religion (plus they were kinda winning at the time).

I need to re-read the lore, but as far as I am concerned the elves just wanted to be left alone and it is the humans that wanted to conquer them.

That's the point; Drakon was conquering his neighbors and forcing his Cult of the Maker to be the one and only religion of the people, which is how the Orlesian Empire (and the Chantry of Andraste) was formed in the first place. I don't see why some posters vilify the Dales for this.

[Silfren]

Zkyire wrote...
If the Elves rise up and start a war of their own when the world is practically tearing itself apart, then I hope each and every one of them get butchered.

I see your point, but in fairness, that is the perfect time for the elves to start a war.  Plus, it's quite possible that they could start a war long before it becomes apparent that there's a tear in the Fade, etc., reacting to the civil war of Orlais rather than anything else.  If they were to do something like this, I think it would be more that their actions would be PART of why the world was tearing itself apart, rather than something that happens simultaneously.

It's a little...well, no, it's flat out silly to demand that a people start a war ONLY when it's convenient for the rest of the world, lol. 

Modifié par Silfren, 18 septembre 2013 - 05:32 .

[WardenWade]

Eterna5 wrote...

mutant_anemone wrote...

I'm all for an elven rebellion.

Next up: the casteless!

If you pick Bhelen as king the Casteless have little reason to rebell. 

I'd love to see more light shed on the dwarves myself, and am hopeful that the red lyrium storyline that has been mentioned by Mr. Laidlaw will be a good opportunity for this in Inquisition.  Regarding Bhelen, I've personally come to wonder about and question ultimately how good he is for Orzammar, and especially the casteless, long-term. 

Interesting comments!   It will be intriguing to see how everyone's fortunes fare throughout the Inquisition.

Modifié par WardenWade, 18 septembre 2013 - 08:59 .

[Silfren]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Ausstig wrote...

Your pick is from the Witcher isn't it

Also I won't mind an Elven rebellion. So long as they are enemies.

If my character can be Dalish, then I see no reason for the elves to automatically be enemies. I think an elven Inquisitor could be interested in helping the rebel elves; perhaps they are trying to reclaim the Dales while Orlais is in the middle of a civil war. If the choice is between Celene, Gaspard, or the elves, then I'd like to choose to aid the elves.

A Dalish Inquisitor would be in a very awkward position, at that.  I'd love to play a Dalish caught between their native loyalties and the burden of being elected to resolve the human conflicts.

I really doubt that a huge elven rebellion will be a major plot of DA3 (though who knows?) but it'd be a very nice lead-in to a future game.

[maliluka]

Silfren wrote...

I'm not sure we can have THAT many major plots going on, given we've got the definite plot of the mage/templar war coupled with the torn Fade, plus a civil war in Orlais, a strongly implied Qunari invasion, etc. But I wouldn't at all mind seeing the seeds of a major Dalish uprising for the next game.

I question whether the Dalish would be able to negotiate with the Qunari, however. The existing Qunari establishment has made it abundantly clear that total domination is their goal, no exceptions. It would take a major regime change, followed by a general shift in qunari philosophy. I COULD see that happening with certain key players like Sten and Tallis, but it's kind of doubtful.

I remember reading on Wiki ( I think) that Elves were more susceptible to following the Qun, which put them in advantageous positions while "selling" themselves into slavery. I also remember some banter back and forth between Zeveran and Sten, how Elves had a higher place in the Qun than humans so I could see the Qunari as possible allies even if it was really for the Quanari advantage.  Also what would be more perfect time than to start a rebellion, than right in the middle of world chaos.

[Silfren]

Eterna5 wrote...

mutant_anemone wrote...

I'm all for an elven rebellion.

Next up: the casteless!

If you pick Bhelen as king the Casteless have little reason to rebell.

This assumes that Bhelen is as truly progressive as he claimed to be during Origins.  There's no guarantee of this at all, and in fact there's evidence against it, given that the lore does precious little to paint him as anything other than a power-hungry opportunist. 

[Han Shot First]

If a huge elven rebellion were to play a role in the next DA game, I hope the player character is given the option to go Tywin Lannister and give the rebellion the Rains of Castamere treatment.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 18 septembre 2013 - 05:42 .

[Silfren]

maliluka wrote...

Silfren wrote...

I'm not sure we can have THAT many major plots going on, given we've got the definite plot of the mage/templar war coupled with the torn Fade, plus a civil war in Orlais, a strongly implied Qunari invasion, etc. But I wouldn't at all mind seeing the seeds of a major Dalish uprising for the next game.

I question whether the Dalish would be able to negotiate with the Qunari, however. The existing Qunari establishment has made it abundantly clear that total domination is their goal, no exceptions. It would take a major regime change, followed by a general shift in qunari philosophy. I COULD see that happening with certain key players like Sten and Tallis, but it's kind of doubtful.

I remember reading on Wiki ( I think) that Elves were more susceptible to following the Qun, which put them in advantageous positions while "selling" themselves into slavery. I also remember some banter back and forth between Zeveran and Sten, how Elves had a higher place in the Qun than humans so I could see the Qunari as possible allies even if it was really for the Quanari advantage.  Also what would be more perfect time than to start a rebellion, than right in the middle of world chaos.

I wouldn't take anything from a Wiki as gospel, but more to the point, I think this applies only to the elves living in poverty in city alienages, not to the Dalish at all.  Look at the reaction of the mad elf from DA2, who refers to Qun elves as "we're losing them...twice!"  I think that would be a fairly common attitude among the Dalish themselves. 

The Dalish themselves largely seem to look down on their city kin with condescending pity, honestly.  They call them their "flat-eared cousins."  So no, I don't think the Dalish would at all be allies of the Qun.  Their primary drive is in maintaining their freedom and independence and in reclaiming as much of their lost heritage as they possible can.  They don't get that by allying themselves with a people whose philosophy requires total domination under the Qun.  I only think an alliance would work if part of the alliance meant that the Qunari themselves would never attempt to convert the Dalish, but I absolutely do NOT see that happening, as it flies in the face of the Qun.

ETA:  Found the Zevran/Sten dialogue you referred to.  I thought it was odd that Sten would say that elves were over humans, so I checked, and it doesn't say that at all.

• Zevran: I understand that there are elves in the Qunari lands, Sten.
• Sten: There are elves everywhere.
• Zevran: Hm. Yes. Well, I've heard that the Qunari actually put the elves in charge? Over the humans? Is that true?
• Sten: Some of them.
• Zevran: Only some? Which ones are they?
• Sten: The ones who belong in charge. That is the way of the Qun.
• Zevran: How does this Qun determine who belongs in charge?
• Sten: The tamassrans evaluate everyone and place them where their talents merit.
• Zevran: But elves, in general, merit higher places than humans in Qunari society?
• Sten: Some of them.
• Zevran: Back where we began. It's like talking to a water wheel.

This is only saying that within the Qun, elves are sometimes given leadership positions over others, regardless of whatever race those "others" are.  It in no way says that elves are given higher status than humans, which wouldn't make sense anyway, since in the Qun there is no such thing.  What it shows is that Zevran is so unused to the idea of elves being in charge of humans under any circumstance, that he misunderstood the Qunari practice and found it strange.

Modifié par Silfren, 18 septembre 2013 - 05:52 .

[kreol1q1q]

wcholcombe wrote...

myahele wrote...

It's about time! After playing as a city elf I must admit that I was furious at their mistreament

Their mistreetment?  They had their own country until they attacked during one of the Blights and were practically destroyed.

They are a conquered people living on the edges of society because of their own hubris.

They didn't attack during the second Blight, they remained neutral and concentrated their strength in the Dales. It was because of that percieved "betrayal", encouraged by the Chantry spreading rumors of elves sacrificing humans to their old gods, that humans started hating the elves, which resulted in the war that destroyed the Dales.

I however don't think the elves were evil not to help out Montsimmard when the Darkspawn besieged it. I think they were just cautious because they just started regaining their civilization, and they didn't want to risk everything just to save some annoying humans that have spent the last century constantly sending missionaries and templars into Dalish territory, aggressivley trying to spread the Chant to the elves.

The Dalish made it clear that their country was closed to outside visitors, and it was the humans that constantly tried to get in, provoking a conflict. I mean, you don't send large groups of templars into a country because you want to be friends. Plus, the Chantry really must have hated not being able to control the elven mages, not to mention the fact that the Dalish continued to worship their own gods right under the Divine's nose. So, the Chantry riled up the human populace, sent in the templars, when that failed sent in some Orlesian troops, and when in retaliation the Dalish broke Orlais and sacked Val'Royeaux and Montsimmard, the Chantry panicked and called for an Exalted March against the Dales. I'd bet even the Imperium joined in on that one, seeing as the Dales were probably kind of a natural enemy to them and their elven slave trade. So, with the combined might of the Imperium, Anderfels and the remaining Orlesian troops, the humans beat back the elves and destroyed the Dales, with the Chantry doing a rerun of the Sinking of Arlathan and the imperial enslavement of the elves a thousand years earlier. (albeit in a slightly less dramatic and less cruel way)

Modifié par kreol1q1q, 18 septembre 2013 - 05:50 .

[maliluka]

Silfren wrote...

maliluka wrote...

Silfren wrote...

I'm not sure we can have THAT many major plots going on, given we've got the definite plot of the mage/templar war coupled with the torn Fade, plus a civil war in Orlais, a strongly implied Qunari invasion, etc. But I wouldn't at all mind seeing the seeds of a major Dalish uprising for the next game.

I question whether the Dalish would be able to negotiate with the Qunari, however. The existing Qunari establishment has made it abundantly clear that total domination is their goal, no exceptions. It would take a major regime change, followed by a general shift in qunari philosophy. I COULD see that happening with certain key players like Sten and Tallis, but it's kind of doubtful.

I remember reading on Wiki ( I think) that Elves were more susceptible to following the Qun, which put them in advantageous positions while "selling" themselves into slavery. I also remember some banter back and forth between Zeveran and Sten, how Elves had a higher place in the Qun than humans so I could see the Qunari as possible allies even if it was really for the Quanari advantage.  Also what would be more perfect time than to start a rebellion, than right in the middle of world chaos.

I wouldn't take anything from a Wiki as gospel, but more to the point, I think this applies only to the elves living in poverty in city alienages, not to the Dalish at all.  Look at the reaction of the mad elf from DA2, who refers to Qun elves as "we're losing them...twice!"  I think that would be a fairly common attitude among the Dalish themselves. 

The Dalish themselves largely seem to look down on their city kin with condescending pity, honestly.  They call them their "flat-eared cousins."  So no, I don't think the Dalish would at all be allies of the Qun.  Their primary drive is in maintaining their freedom and independence and in reclaiming as much of their lost heritage as they possible can.  They don't get that by allying themselves with a people whose philosophy requires total domination under the Qun.  I only think an alliance would work if part of the alliance meant that the Qunari themselves would never attempt to convert the Dalish, but I absolutely do NOT see that happening, as it flies in the face of the Qun.

True I know its not gospel, and I should have clarified City Elf when I wrote it. 

[myahele]

Even without a Blight they probably would've been ransacked by humans anyway. I think tensions were rising and them not joining in beating the Blight just added fuel to the fire. Had they joined then it would've been good PR for the Dales...for a while.

In my ending the Dalish were respected due to their participation in the Blight, so much so that humans welcomed them and even were rewarded land near Ostagar....but tensions eventually rose anyways

[maliluka]

Silfren wrote...

maliluka wrote...

Silfren wrote...

I'm not sure we can have THAT many major plots going on, given we've got the definite plot of the mage/templar war coupled with the torn Fade, plus a civil war in Orlais, a strongly implied Qunari invasion, etc. But I wouldn't at all mind seeing the seeds of a major Dalish uprising for the next game.

I question whether the Dalish would be able to negotiate with the Qunari, however. The existing Qunari establishment has made it abundantly clear that total domination is their goal, no exceptions. It would take a major regime change, followed by a general shift in qunari philosophy. I COULD see that happening with certain key players like Sten and Tallis, but it's kind of doubtful.

I remember reading on Wiki ( I think) that Elves were more susceptible to following the Qun, which put them in advantageous positions while "selling" themselves into slavery. I also remember some banter back and forth between Zeveran and Sten, how Elves had a higher place in the Qun than humans so I could see the Qunari as possible allies even if it was really for the Quanari advantage.  Also what would be more perfect time than to start a rebellion, than right in the middle of world chaos.

I wouldn't take anything from a Wiki as gospel, but more to the point, I think this applies only to the elves living in poverty in city alienages, not to the Dalish at all.  Look at the reaction of the mad elf from DA2, who refers to Qun elves as "we're losing them...twice!"  I think that would be a fairly common attitude among the Dalish themselves. 

The Dalish themselves largely seem to look down on their city kin with condescending pity, honestly.  They call them their "flat-eared cousins."  So no, I don't think the Dalish would at all be allies of the Qun.  Their primary drive is in maintaining their freedom and independence and in reclaiming as much of their lost heritage as they possible can.  They don't get that by allying themselves with a people whose philosophy requires total domination under the Qun.  I only think an alliance would work if part of the alliance meant that the Qunari themselves would never attempt to convert the Dalish, but I absolutely do NOT see that happening, as it flies in the face of the Qun.

ETA:  Found the Zevran/Sten dialogue you referred to.  I thought it was odd that Sten would say that elves were over humans, so I checked, and it doesn't say that at all.

• Zevran: I understand that there are elves in the Qunari lands, Sten.
  
• Sten: There are elves everywhere.
  
• Zevran: Hm. Yes. Well, I've heard that the Qunari actually put the elves in charge? Over the humans? Is that true?
  
• Sten: Some of them.
  
• Zevran: Only some? Which ones are they?
  
• Sten: The ones who belong in charge. That is the way of the Qun.
  
• Zevran: How does this Qun determine who belongs in charge?
  
• Sten: The tamassrans evaluate everyone and place them where their talents merit.
  
• Zevran: But elves, in general, merit higher places than humans in Qunari society?
  
• Sten: Some of them.
  
• Zevran: Back where we began. It's like talking to a water wheel.

This is only saying that within the Qun, elves are sometimes given leadership positions over others, regardless of whatever race those "others" are.  It in no way says that elves are given higher status than humans, which wouldn't make sense anyway, since in the Qun there is no such thing.  What it shows is that Zevran is so unused to the idea of elves being in charge of humans under any circumstance, that he misunderstood the Qunari practice and found it strange.

Thank you for clarifying, it has been so long since I have had both of them in my party I could not remember the whole dialogue only that it was mentioned

[WardenWade]

Silfren wrote...

maliluka wrote...

Silfren wrote...

I'm not sure we can have THAT many major plots going on, given we've got the definite plot of the mage/templar war coupled with the torn Fade, plus a civil war in Orlais, a strongly implied Qunari invasion, etc. But I wouldn't at all mind seeing the seeds of a major Dalish uprising for the next game.

I question whether the Dalish would be able to negotiate with the Qunari, however. The existing Qunari establishment has made it abundantly clear that total domination is their goal, no exceptions. It would take a major regime change, followed by a general shift in qunari philosophy. I COULD see that happening with certain key players like Sten and Tallis, but it's kind of doubtful.

I remember reading on Wiki ( I think) that Elves were more susceptible to following the Qun, which put them in advantageous positions while "selling" themselves into slavery. I also remember some banter back and forth between Zeveran and Sten, how Elves had a higher place in the Qun than humans so I could see the Qunari as possible allies even if it was really for the Quanari advantage.  Also what would be more perfect time than to start a rebellion, than right in the middle of world chaos.

I wouldn't take anything from a Wiki as gospel, but more to the point, I think this applies only to the elves living in poverty in city alienages, not to the Dalish at all.  Look at the reaction of the mad elf from DA2, who refers to Qun elves as "we're losing them...twice!"  I think that would be a fairly common attitude among the Dalish themselves. 

The Dalish themselves largely seem to look down on their city kin with condescending pity, honestly.  They call them their "flat-eared cousins."  So no, I don't think the Dalish would at all be allies of the Qun.  Their primary drive is in maintaining their freedom and independence and in reclaiming as much of their lost heritage as they possible can.  They don't get that by allying themselves with a people whose philosophy requires total domination under the Qun.  I only think an alliance would work if part of the alliance meant that the Qunari themselves would never attempt to convert the Dalish, but I absolutely do NOT see that happening, as it flies in the face of the Qun.

ETA:  Found the Zevran/Sten dialogue you referred to.  I thought it was odd that Sten would say that elves were over humans, so I checked, and it doesn't say that at all.

• Zevran: I understand that there are elves in the Qunari lands, Sten.
  
• Sten: There are elves everywhere.
  
• Zevran: Hm. Yes. Well, I've heard that the Qunari actually put the elves in charge? Over the humans? Is that true?
  
• Sten: Some of them.
  
• Zevran: Only some? Which ones are they?
  
• Sten: The ones who belong in charge. That is the way of the Qun.
  
• Zevran: How does this Qun determine who belongs in charge?
  
• Sten: The tamassrans evaluate everyone and place them where their talents merit.
  
• Zevran: But elves, in general, merit higher places than humans in Qunari society?
  
• Sten: Some of them.
  
• Zevran: Back where we began. It's like talking to a water wheel.

This is only saying that within the Qun, elves are sometimes given leadership positions over others, regardless of whatever race those "others" are.  It in no way says that elves are given higher status than humans, which wouldn't make sense anyway, since in the Qun there is no such thing.  What it shows is that Zevran is so unused to the idea of elves being in charge of humans under any circumstance, that he misunderstood the Qunari practice and found it strange.

If it's helpful at all, additionally, I believe the wiki entry mentioned earlier may be this one, "Qunari of Other Races."

[Vilegrim]

wcholcombe wrote...

Vilegrim wrote...



Where do I sign up to join this group? Freeing the elves and mages while tearing down the chantry? The first clearly and purely good actions in the setting so far. Removing the wall the maker used to limit peoples access tp the fade has been mishandled however. 

Really?  Purely good?  So you loose Malificar on the world without any controls on their wickedness?  You would risk loosing countless abominations upon a defenseless public out of some misguided greater perfectly good?

As for the elves, I am not familiar with the Dalish being persecuted as they pretty much live outside of most human laws anyway.

(Sorry if that sounds harsh, but gotta stay within the response of the setting)

Templar propaganda on the malificar front every time we see abominations they are people forced to desperation by the oppression of the circles.  The Dalish live outside human society constantly on the move to escape being forced to convert by the chantry.   The maker stole mortals birthright by sealing off the spirit world.  So yes good. 

Death to the chantry all hail the old gods.

Modifié par Vilegrim, 18 septembre 2013 - 06:12 .

[Dave of Canada]

I'm not too worried about a bunch of vagabonds raising sticks in the air saying they're angry.

[xarthas2]

Silfren wrote...
..a strongly implied Qunari invasion...

I missed this one. ¿When/where has been this implied?

[Silfren]

WardenWade wrote...

Silfren wrote...

maliluka wrote...

Silfren wrote...

I'm not sure we can have THAT many major plots going on, given we've got the definite plot of the mage/templar war coupled with the torn Fade, plus a civil war in Orlais, a strongly implied Qunari invasion, etc. But I wouldn't at all mind seeing the seeds of a major Dalish uprising for the next game.

I question whether the Dalish would be able to negotiate with the Qunari, however. The existing Qunari establishment has made it abundantly clear that total domination is their goal, no exceptions. It would take a major regime change, followed by a general shift in qunari philosophy. I COULD see that happening with certain key players like Sten and Tallis, but it's kind of doubtful.

I remember reading on Wiki ( I think) that Elves were more susceptible to following the Qun, which put them in advantageous positions while "selling" themselves into slavery. I also remember some banter back and forth between Zeveran and Sten, how Elves had a higher place in the Qun than humans so I could see the Qunari as possible allies even if it was really for the Quanari advantage.  Also what would be more perfect time than to start a rebellion, than right in the middle of world chaos.

I wouldn't take anything from a Wiki as gospel, but more to the point, I think this applies only to the elves living in poverty in city alienages, not to the Dalish at all.  Look at the reaction of the mad elf from DA2, who refers to Qun elves as "we're losing them...twice!"  I think that would be a fairly common attitude among the Dalish themselves. 

The Dalish themselves largely seem to look down on their city kin with condescending pity, honestly.  They call them their "flat-eared cousins."  So no, I don't think the Dalish would at all be allies of the Qun.  Their primary drive is in maintaining their freedom and independence and in reclaiming as much of their lost heritage as they possible can.  They don't get that by allying themselves with a people whose philosophy requires total domination under the Qun.  I only think an alliance would work if part of the alliance meant that the Qunari themselves would never attempt to convert the Dalish, but I absolutely do NOT see that happening, as it flies in the face of the Qun.

ETA:  Found the Zevran/Sten dialogue you referred to.  I thought it was odd that Sten would say that elves were over humans, so I checked, and it doesn't say that at all.

• Zevran: I understand that there are elves in the Qunari lands, Sten.
  
• Sten: There are elves everywhere.
  
• Zevran: Hm. Yes. Well, I've heard that the Qunari actually put the elves in charge? Over the humans? Is that true?
  
• Sten: Some of them.
  
• Zevran: Only some? Which ones are they?
  
• Sten: The ones who belong in charge. That is the way of the Qun.
  
• Zevran: How does this Qun determine who belongs in charge?
  
• Sten: The tamassrans evaluate everyone and place them where their talents merit.
  
• Zevran: But elves, in general, merit higher places than humans in Qunari society?
  
• Sten: Some of them.
  
• Zevran: Back where we began. It's like talking to a water wheel.

This is only saying that within the Qun, elves are sometimes given leadership positions over others, regardless of whatever race those "others" are.  It in no way says that elves are given higher status than humans, which wouldn't make sense anyway, since in the Qun there is no such thing.  What it shows is that Zevran is so unused to the idea of elves being in charge of humans under any circumstance, that he misunderstood the Qunari practice and found it strange.

If it's helpful at all, additionally, I believe the wiki entry mentioned earlier may be this one, "Qunari of Other Races."

Well there you go.  Assuming that is accurate to the actual codex, it's an account from a Tevinter official--not a bias-free "game" codex.  It's referring to elves of the Imperium, which means "slaves" or, better yet, "blood magic fodder."  It makes perfect sense that those elves would be "more susceptible" to the Qun, but it doesn't refer to all elves (though of course any elves in ghetto-ized conditions would probably be more willing converts), just the ones that have very good reason to "submit" to the Qun.  

[Silfren]

xarthas2 wrote...

Silfren wrote...
..a strongly implied Qunari invasion...

I missed this one. ¿When/where has been this implied?

I think many of the same codices are in DA2, but check the Qunari-specific codex in Origins, and also dialogue with Sten.  Then go to DA2 and take note of all the Qunari quests (the dialogue and such), etc. 

There's a ton of of suggestions that the Qunari are planning another invasion of some sort, most of it not even vaguely subtle.

Modifié par Silfren, 18 septembre 2013 - 06:24 .

[Wulfram]

It's certainly the Qunari intention to conquer Thedas some time, but it's been their intention since they arrived. I don't think there's much in the way of strong indications it's going to happen in the next game.

[xarthas2]

Silfren wrote...

xarthas2 wrote...

Silfren wrote...
..a strongly implied Qunari invasion...

I missed this one. ¿When/where has been this implied?

I think many of the same codices are in DA2, but check the Qunari-specific codex in Origins, and also dialogue with Sten.  Then go to DA2 and take note of all the Qunari quests (the dialogue and such), etc. 

There's a ton of of suggestions that the Qunari are planning another invasion of some sort, most of it not even vaguely subtle.

Yeah. But as Wulfred said, nobody has hinted that The invasión (or just a new invasion or a small incursion) would be in DAI. I'm pretty sure we will have to deal with the Qunari, but if they will launch an invasion in Inquisition remains to be seen.

[Silfren]

Wulfram wrote...

It's certainly the Qunari intention to conquer Thedas some time, but it's been their intention since they arrived. I don't think there's much in the way of strong indications it's going to happen in the next game.

I didn't mean this upcoming game, necessarily.  I said it is heavily implied that they will invade.  I do think it's quite possible we'll see something related to it in DA3, but failing that, I DO think there is a strong likelihood of that being the focus of an upcoming game.

Writers don't include hints for no reason--nothing in writing is an accident.  And again, they're not being subtle.  Origins and DA2 are loaded with "Impending Qunari invasion, dun dun dun....!!!!"  So yes, VERY strong indications that it will be a plot at some point (assuming the games continue).

Edited for clarification.

Modifié par Silfren, 18 septembre 2013 - 06:32 .

[Sir DeLoria]

Vilegrim wrote...

Templar propaganda on the malificar front every time we see abominations they are people forced to desperation by the oppression of the circles.  The Dalish live outside human society constantly on the move to escape being forced to convert by the chantry.   The maker stole mortals birthright by sealing off the spirit world.  So yes good. 

Death to the chantry all hail the old gods.

Right, let's abolish the chantry and let every mage use blood magic freely. Let's see where that goes huh? Oh right, Tevinter...