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[Renmiri1]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...
I love cameos, but i agree.. this kind of stuff would be perfect for a "fan service DLC" 

That worked for ME, but what would be the point in DA? The Inquisitor wouldn't really know any of these people.

"Hey Quizzy, it's Oghren, we only knew eachother for all of 30 seconds, but lets meet up anyway. Maybe I can reminisce about stuff you weren't there for while we're at it!"

The Inquisitor would be like a third wheel between the character and the player. :S

Alistair, Varric and the others would be introducing Quizzy to the old heroes ofc! 

Modifié par Renmiri1, 19 septembre 2013 - 09:45 .

[Eveangaline]

PinkShoes wrote...
Now i like when old characters come back for a moment or two like Alistair in DA2 but i certainly do not want our whole party to be like 5 returning characters that would be so incredibly boring.

That's pretty much what everyone wants. No one is asking for everyone to come back. I think you're making the mistake of seeing threads for a bunch of different characters made by different people and assuming that means everyone wants everyone to come back. It just means that different people have different characters they want to cameo. Don't worry, your opinion is not unique.

[Cyanide Disaster]

My two cents:

If it makes sense, then yeah I want to see them! For example:

The Inquisition is taken to Ferelden. May gal decides "I should probably let the monarch know what's up and try to get their support" and BAM I meet my Warden Queen and Alistair. This makes sense.

What would not make any sense:

The Inquisition goes to Ferelden and I walk into Lothering. Alistair, Leliana, Oghren and DOG are there to greet me and help me in this next quest.

Speaking of Oghren though, I really hope he doesn't cameo. He was a good character but unless in one of my play through's I meet a battalion of Wardens and get to see familiar and new faces, I don't want him hanging around getting his beer breath on my fancy new friends.

[Danny Boy 7]

MakutaDax wrote...

I don't mind cameos if they serve a purpose and aren't just there for fanservice. I love Zevran, but his appearance in DA2 was just... so random and pointless. At least Alistair's cameo as King brought along some info about Ferelden and made sense as far as his being a head of state visiting another assumed head of state (Meredith).

The main problem I see on the BSN is that everyone and their mother demands the appearance of non essential, hardly noteworthy NPC's or party members that could be made important to Inquisition's plot, but really shouldn't be. For instance, could Sigrun, Merrill, Zevran or even Oghren be given important roles in Inquisition? Certainly, but why go through the trouble of crafting an entire backstory for their sudden importance when you could spend all that time and energy on making new and fantastically interesting characters?

Easy, because the appearance of a new character that could easily be filled by an older one is a little silly. I'm not necessarily saying a reinvention of the character ala Merrill...though I'm sure someone could make the point that she didn't actually change and that we barely saw her character, but let's not get into that (unless you have to idk). But say we need a keeper, one involved with demons, and the Eluvian....why not take Merrill? Instead of arbitrarily dismissing her in favor of a fresh face why not use a partially developed character and flesh them out.

I mean would you rather people you already know to fill that role or would you prefer someone who is basically that character, but not if you understand what I mean? Obviously you could say the latter, but I don't think that creating new characters simply to be new is any better than bringing back characters simply to bring them back.

Leliana fits, Cassandra and (athough I'm not 100% on this yet) Varric fit. If they bring back characters I hope 1. that it fits and that all the imports work (though the Keep seems like it will smooth out any problems.) 2. that there aren't too many just thrown in there and 3 That when a character they need is different enough that they create someone new rather than bringing back someone simply because.

[PinkShoes]

Eveangaline wrote...

PinkShoes wrote...
Now i like when old characters come back for a moment or two like Alistair in DA2 but i certainly do not want our whole party to be like 5 returning characters that would be so incredibly boring.

That's pretty much what everyone wants. No one is asking for everyone to come back. I think you're making the mistake of seeing threads for a bunch of different characters made by different people and assuming that means everyone wants everyone to come back. It just means that different people have different characters they want to cameo. Don't worry, your opinion is not unique.

Well i never really said my opinion was i just said i felt like i was in the minority which  from the thread it seems im not. I have just heard rumors that cullen or  leliana may be returning as party members and honestly i would hate that more than anything. Cullen is nice and everything but we know his back story and know why he distrusts mages he brings nothing new to the table even if he hasnt been a party member.

And when it comes to NPC's sure bring back a couple of people but this is a whole new setting so i want to see lots and lots of new faces because a couple of minutes of talking to an old npc would just feel like cheap fan service.

[MakutaDax]

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

MakutaDax wrote...

I don't mind cameos if they serve a purpose and aren't just there for fanservice. I love Zevran, but his appearance in DA2 was just... so random and pointless. At least Alistair's cameo as King brought along some info about Ferelden and made sense as far as his being a head of state visiting another assumed head of state (Meredith).

The main problem I see on the BSN is that everyone and their mother demands the appearance of non essential, hardly noteworthy NPC's or party members that could be made important to Inquisition's plot, but really shouldn't be. For instance, could Sigrun, Merrill, Zevran or even Oghren be given important roles in Inquisition? Certainly, but why go through the trouble of crafting an entire backstory for their sudden importance when you could spend all that time and energy on making new and fantastically interesting characters?

Easy, because the appearance of a new character that could easily be filled by an older one is a little silly. I'm not necessarily saying a reinvention of the character ala Merrill...though I'm sure someone could make the point that she didn't actually change and that we barely saw her character, but let's not get into that (unless you have to idk). But say we need a keeper, one involved with demons, and the Eluvian....why not take Merrill? Instead of arbitrarily dismissing her in favor of a fresh face why not use a partially developed character and flesh them out.

I mean would you rather people you already know to fill that role or would you prefer someone who is basically that character, but not if you understand what I mean? Obviously you could say the latter, but I don't think that creating new characters simply to be new is any better than bringing back characters simply to bring them back.

Leliana fits, Cassandra and (athough I'm not 100% on this yet) Varric fit. If they bring back characters I hope 1. that it fits and that all the imports work (though the Keep seems like it will smooth out any problems.) 2. that there aren't too many just thrown in there and 3 That when a character they need is different enough that they create someone new rather than bringing back someone simply because.

Well, your number 3 point actually summed up my entire post. Most people who request a cameo or a fuller appearance of a past character/NPC want that appearance without a real need for it. They want character X to be in the game simply to have character X even if it's a huge stretch to see that character at all, i.e. their story was summed up earlier or they really shouldn't be important in Inquisition's completely different setting.

On the other hand, your point about Merrill is a completely valid one. The Eluvian is a very specific story point and it would make far more sense to simply use Merrill who is already established as having a major interest in the Eluvian rather than creating an entire character to fill her role. So on that and other similar points, we are definitely in agrement. We also agree that characters who fit in the story should return. I can certainly understand using Cassandra and Varric as bridges between DA2 and Inquisition in order to properly tie all of the stories together. As for Leliana, I believe they have purposely built her up for this situation so of course she's meant to be there. lol

[vertigomez]

I just want Jethann from the Blooming Rose to show up again. Then I can die happy.

[Renmiri1]

mutant_anemone wrote...

I just want Jethann from the Blooming Rose to show up again. Then I can die happy.

His VA was great!

[Iakus]

mutant_anemone wrote...

I just want Jethann from the Blooming Rose to show up again. Then I can die happy.

Then I want Jan Jansen and Varric Tethras to meet and swap stories 

[Vicious]

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