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[Xilizhra]

Which would be killing all mages? This is a given. I'm more worried about the return of the status-quo for the pro-templar/Chantry solution, and a freedom with no means to regulate the relationship between mages and non-mages for the pro-mage solution. I don't disagree with mages be free in the mage outcome (is kind of an obvious outcome) but someone should regulate the situation. I'll be fine with the Inquisition talking this role.

No, all mages returning to the Circle would be the extremist templar solution that I don't think will exist. Truth be told, I have major doubts that this'll be a choice at all, because it'd alter the setting of the next game too much to tell consistently.

Red Templars, Demon worshipping and/or crazy Blood Mages, Demons coming through the Tears, there are lots of common enemies.

Right. Either way, given that the Chantry didn't want to fight the mages to keep them imprisoned, an accord could well be reached.

[Heimdall]

Anyone else doubt there will be any real resolution to the Mage-Templar issue in DA:I?

[Heimdall]

Xilizhra wrote...

Red Templars, Demon worshipping and/or crazy Blood Mages, Demons coming through the Tears, there are lots of common enemies.

Right. Either way, given that the Chantry didn't want to fight the mages to keep them imprisoned, an accord could well be reached.

The Chantry, or atleast the Divine, was looking into improving the lot of Mages, but without the Templars to enforce her authority I have my doubts it will change much.

[The Elder King]

@iavillain: I think that the mage outcome will satisfy your concerns. For my solution (which I'm not sure will be available) I don't think it could guarantee the safety of both sides at 100%. Though I personally don't think any system is perfect and will fall sooner or later.
@Xilzhra: I know that you don't think the solution I mentioned will be available. We already discussed on this point (I told you that the solution for having different outcomes that lead to different treatment of mages could be resolved with a nice qunari invasion in DA4, though at this point I think that the mage-templar war will not end in inquisiton).
So what do you think it would be a possible pro-Chantry outcome, if it'll be present?

[The Elder King]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Anyone else doubt there will be any real resolution to the Mage-Templar issue in DA:I?

*Raise hand.

Modifié par hhh89, 24 septembre 2013 - 02:55 .

[LobselVith8]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Anyone else doubt there will be any real resolution to the Mage-Templar issue in DA:I?

To a degree. I'm sure the Inquisitor can side with one over the other, and turn the tide of the war in the favor of one faction over the other by establishing forts and bases of power across Thedas.

[Xilizhra]

@Xilzhra: I know that you don't think the solution I mentioned will be available. We already discussed on this point (I told you that the solution for having different outcomes that lead to different treatment of mages could be resolved with a nice qunari invasion in DA4, though at this point I think that the mage-templar war will not end in inquisiton).
So what do you think it would be a possible pro-Chantry outcome, if it'll be present?

No clue, I confess.

[The Elder King]

@LobselVith8: I agree that the Inquisitor will able to support mages or templars in the war, as well in other conflicts.
@Xilzhra: fair enough. 

Modifié par hhh89, 24 septembre 2013 - 04:18 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

Mister Gusty wrote...

If there was to be a templar companion I would prefer a more seasoned and older character(male or female) such as a former/current Knight Commander, that would be much more interesting than having Cullen or some female templar for the sole purpose of romancing which everyone seems to be obsessed with.

I don't want evangeline because she might be romanceble.

I want her because she's a templar who stood up to her corrupt knight commander,  is generally awesome, and has a benevolent spirit inside of her thanks to wynne.

And who do you think became kirkwalls knight commander after meredith died? My guess would be its cullen.

[Mister Gusty]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Mister Gusty wrote...

If there was to be a templar companion I would prefer a more seasoned and older character(male or female) such as a former/current Knight Commander, that would be much more interesting than having Cullen or some female templar for the sole purpose of romancing which everyone seems to be obsessed with.

I don't want evangeline because she might be romanceble.

I want her because she's a templar who stood up to her corrupt knight commander,  is generally awesome, and has a benevolent spirit inside of her thanks to wynne.

And who do you think became kirkwalls knight commander after meredith died? My guess would be its cullen.

We have already had Wynne with her spirit, Justice in Kristoffs body, Anders at first with justice and then the whole Vengeance thing so we have had more than enough spirits and I don't like Cullen very much(No particular reason just he's kinda boring), also I am very sick of all companions being so young I want some older more seasoned characters because so far we have only really had Wynne.

There is also Loghain but most people don't let him live and also he is only a companion for a very short amount of time.

Modifié par Mister Gusty, 24 septembre 2013 - 05:53 .

[Medhia Nox]

There "would" be a certain beauty to watching the mages get what they want... and instead of living in guilded cages, they can live in the muck and the wreak with their kinfolk.

Just what we need - even dumber Thedosian mages.

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Any king that let a mage within miles of him as a "free" man is only asking to be overthrown. The nations of Thedas will of course "deal" with mages in their own ways. I believe the Templars will become a secular police force with possible Anti-magic mages along for the ride. For every mage a king has - he'll have twenty such Templars watching the bastard.

Were I a king in a "Free Mage" Thedas - it would be a zero tolerance policy. What mages can do is too dangerous to be "understanding" about reform. But hey, I'd let them choose... Execution or Tranquility.

I'd make even studying violent spells outside of my special forces mage battalion punishable by fines and imprisonment. Any argument about "needing" violent spells is already suspect.

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Then the Circles should be turned into colleges for real education - and the people going to them can live in them with free food, shelter and education.

And the uneducated free mages can be farmers and bakers because they can't afford to pay a proper tutor. 

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 24 septembre 2013 - 08:02 .

[The Six Path of Pain]

hhh89 wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Anyone else doubt there will be any real resolution to the Mage-Templar issue in DA:I?

*Raise hand.

They better resolve this mage-templar war bull**** in this game.

[The Elder King]

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Anyone else doubt there will be any real resolution to the Mage-Templar issue in DA:I?

*Raise hand.

They better resolve this mage-templar war bull**** in this game.

It's not the central plot, so there are chances it'll not be finished.
I don't care much if they'll finish it or not in this game. I'm more interested in the outcomes.

[The Six Path of Pain]

hhh89 wrote...

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Anyone else doubt there will be any real resolution to the Mage-Templar issue in DA:I?

*Raise hand.

They better resolve this mage-templar war bull**** in this game.

It's not the central plot, so there are chances it'll not be finished.
I don't care much if they'll finish it or not in this game. I'm more interested in the outcomes.

I just want a war with the Qunari. Is that so much to ask for?  lol

[Reaverwind]

Medhia Nox wrote...

There "would" be a certain beauty to watching the mages get what they want... and instead of living in guilded cages, they can live in the muck and the wreak with their kinfolk.

Just what we need - even dumber Thedosian mages.

========

Any king that let a mage within miles of him as a "free" man is only asking to be overthrown. The nations of Thedas will of course "deal" with mages in their own ways. I believe the Templars will become a secular police force with possible Anti-magic mages along for the ride. For every mage a king has - he'll have twenty such Templars watching the bastard.

Were I a king in a "Free Mage" Thedas - it would be a zero tolerance policy. What mages can do is too dangerous to be "understanding" about reform. But hey, I'd let them choose... Execution or Tranquility.

I'd make even studying violent spells outside of my special forces mage battalion punishable by fines and imprisonment. Any argument about "needing" violent spells is already suspect.

===========

Then the Circles should be turned into colleges for real education - and the people going to them can live in them with free food, shelter and education.

And the uneducated free mages can be farmers and bakers because they can't afford to pay a proper tutor. 

Interesting, but I'd leave Tranquility off the table. I don't want zombies running around. Oh, and the Chantry would be prohibited from interfering. 

Modifié par Reaverwind, 24 septembre 2013 - 08:52 .

[The Elder King]

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

It's not the central plot, so there are chances it'll not be finished.
I don't care much if they'll finish it or not in this game. I'm more interested in the outcomes.

I just want a war with the Qunari. Is that so much to ask for?  lol

A qunari invasion could be the next game's main plot regardless if the mage-templar war is finished.

[dragonflight288]

hhh89 wrote...

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

It's not the central plot, so there are chances it'll not be finished.
I don't care much if they'll finish it or not in this game. I'm more interested in the outcomes.

I just want a war with the Qunari. Is that so much to ask for?  lol

A qunari invasion could be the next game's main plot regardless if the mage-templar war is finished.

that could put an end to the mage-templar war really quick. Without mages, the templars, the Chantry, and almost all Andrastian nations will fall. The mages were their ace in the hole the first time. Without mages, they lose the ace, and they can't compete with the qunari technologically. It would be a slaughter.

[BlueMagitek]

Now that the Qunari field their mages, it will certainly be a slaughter regardless.

The Blight is going to be used as a bio-weapon against the Qunari lands; up until DA:O it appeared they had no idea what it is. ~_^

[The Elder King]

Dragonflight288: considering that Orlais will be weakened by the civil war, and Nevarra as well if a successor is not found, the invasion will end quickly in favour of the Qun.
The fact is that if the Qun will not be affected by the Veil tear, post-Inquisition is the perfect moment to invade Thedas.

[AresKeith]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Mister Gusty wrote...

If there was to be a templar companion I would prefer a more seasoned and older character(male or female) such as a former/current Knight Commander, that would be much more interesting than having Cullen or some female templar for the sole purpose of romancing which everyone seems to be obsessed with.

I don't want evangeline because she might be romanceble.

I want her because she's a templar who stood up to her corrupt knight commander,  is generally awesome, and has a benevolent spirit inside of her thanks to wynne.

And who do you think became kirkwalls knight commander after meredith died? My guess would be its cullen.

Evangeline wouldn't be a romance option if she became a companion

[LobselVith8]

AresKeith wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

I don't want evangeline because she might be romanceble.

I want her because she's a templar who stood up to her corrupt knight commander,  is generally awesome, and has a benevolent spirit inside of her thanks to wynne.

And who do you think became kirkwalls knight commander after meredith died? My guess would be its cullen.

Evangeline wouldn't be a romance option if she became a companion 

I think the point was that Darth wants Evangeline as a companion for reasons that have nothing to do with her being a possible romantic interest for the protagonist.