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So the Hammerhead (Hover-Mako) is going to be (free) DLC only?


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Guaritor wrote...

Not so long ago this "DLC" thing didnt even exist... and companies still put out complete games... is it so hard to assume that BW is just supporting its game with additional content instead of money grabbing?


You know what the funny thing is? One of the biggest complaints about Mass Effect 1 was the lack of DLC.

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 I know I don't like the idea because of where it could lead. At what point will the game's ending become 'Free DLC for all new games'. I can appreciate them not liking the second-hand game market, but greed will inevitably push them to things that are.. questionable.

I totally understand your point, Chaos, and completely agree with it. I'm not saying I love DLC, hell, I actually hate it, since it forces me (gun to my head, tears rolling down my cheeks as I hand them my credit card =] ) to purchase things I think should have been included with the game.
I just have a dislike for lazy, uninformed opinions. Especially when the information to make an informed opinion is in the first post.


You must be one of the most weak willed people that are great assets to fan-bases of Star Trek and whatnot.  I bet if you were a Star Trek fan you'd buy the 250 dollar lifetime sub just so you could play as a Borg, and you'd blame Cryptic for forcing and manipulating you into spending so much money into a trash game.

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You still haven't given me a source for where they have improved upon the network issues of Dragon Age. For the record.




good job quoting the wrong person there, and I'm not giving you anything because unless it's confirmed by the people who use it there is no way to know..  so you basically ask for something that is not possible,  In hopes you win the argument because you ask for information impossible to confirm. 

Great, so your not winning either. Congrats with your logic. -_-

Also I fixed my quote error. :P These forums are so backwards, all the quote buttons are reveresed of the usual forums I am on. So confusing.

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That doesn't make any sense. Either the planets are designed so you need to use a vehicle or they're designed so you don't need to use the vehicle. If you don't need a vehicle, having one would probably be completely pointless.

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DocLasty wrote...

Guaritor wrote...

Not so long ago this "DLC" thing didnt even exist... and companies still put out complete games... is it so hard to assume that BW is just supporting its game with additional content instead of money grabbing?


You know what the funny thing is? One of the biggest complaints about Mass Effect 1 was the lack of DLC.


Bioware doesn't make DLC? people b**** and moan.  Bioware makes DLC? People b**** and moan.

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tommythetomcat wrote...

Guaritor wrote...

Not so long ago this "DLC" thing didnt even exist... and companies still put out complete games... is it so hard to assume that BW is just supporting its game with additional content instead of money grabbing?


the game comes on 2 DVD's



What ME2? Since when?

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tommythetomcat wrote...

Guaritor wrote...

Not so long ago this "DLC" thing didnt even exist... and companies still put out complete games... is it so hard to assume that BW is just supporting its game with additional content instead of money grabbing?


the game comes on 2 DVD's



What ME2? Since when?


Since Bioware said it only fit on 2 discs.

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Xivai wrote...

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Xivai wrote...

You still haven't given me a source for where they have improved upon the network issues of Dragon Age. For the record.




good job quoting the wrong person there, and I'm not giving you anything because unless it's confirmed by the people who use it there is no way to know..  so you basically ask for something that is not possible,  In hopes you win the argument because you ask for information impossible to confirm. 

Great, so your not winning either. Congrats with your logic. -_-

Also I fixed my quote error. :P These forums are so backwards, all the quote buttons are reveresed of the usual forums I am on. So confusing.


Is there life outside our solar system?  I don't think there is and you need to prove to me that there is.

Its called a logical fallacy and you are using it.

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Why didn't they just finish the game and THEN release it? Ridiculous. If this is even true.

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"After launch, BioWare will release another DLC pack for Mass Effect 2 that introduces the Hammerhead, a new vehicle in the Mass Effect universe- Muzyka"

After, aka you gonna pay for it; thy just prolly removed it from the game and added the vehicle as an DLC to suck $

I do wonder how much crap like this are the costumers willing to take just so thy can play the game; seams like DA:O was an example for things to come

Modifié par Kolos2, 19 janvier 2010 - 06:11 .


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I hope it is free. I'm still confused on why they didn't include it in the game...




The launch day DLC (Zaeed) is free, according to Chris Priestly. The second pack that introduces the Hammerhead will most likely be the start of their PDLC. They aren't going to introduce something that cool and not charge for it.

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Crawling_Chaos wrote...

DarkHod wrote...
What ME2? Since when?


Since Bioware said it only fit on 2 discs.


15 Gb without DLC hehe, BioWare sure push limits ... XBOX users even have to switch discs in the middle.

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1.      The (free!) DLC discourages piracy and second-hand purchases

2.      DLC saves disk space on the main game (BioWare have said they had a hard time fitting the game on 2 disks)

3.      DLC allows them to continue to support and expand the game after release.

4.       “What ifthe DLC codes don’t work” – There’s always that risk, yes.  There’s also the risk your disk will be scratched, your system won’t the game, etc., etc. If something doesn’t work, it will likely get fixed.  Every app has potential launch day issues, this is just newer and I imagine as DLC becomes more and more commonplace
(inevitable), launch issues will become rarer.

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Is there life outside our solar system?  I don't think there is and you need to prove to me that there is.

Its called a logical fallacy and you are using it.


This, you're asking him to "prove" something that is impossible to prove at the time.  I can only speculate and tell you that I think the ME2 team is much more experience  than the DA:O team, and since they're producing a much more polished product I can expect for the Cerberus Network to work with less hitches than the DAO network.

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"After launch, BioWare will release another DLC pack for Mass Effect 2 that introduces the Hammerhead, a new vehicle in the Mass Effect universe- Muzyka"

After, aka you gonna pay for it; thy just prolly removed it from the game and added the vehicle as an DLC to suck $

I do wonder how much crap like this are the costumers willing to
take just so thy can play the game; seams like DA:O was an example for
things to come


Except the Mako and the uncharted worlds is something that a lot of people didn't like form ME, so they decided to make it an optional thing.  If you liked bumping around in those empty worlds so much, then buy the DLC, if not then don't.

If you're so adamantly against it, then don't support them.  Don't play their games.

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Catsith wrote...

Ranger141 wrote...

I hope it is free. I'm still confused on why they didn't include it in the game...


The launch day DLC (Zaeed) is free, according to Chris Priestly. The second pack that introduces the Hammerhead will most likely be the start of their PDLC. They aren't going to introduce something that cool and not charge for it.


This is just conjecture he said 

"So yes, we can now confirm the Cerberus Network does indeed allow registered users to access DLC, the Zaeed character (which did get leaked a tad early. Thank you Norway Image IPB ) and that we have a lot of N7 missions and more content to come in the future."

This is all he can confirm now that doesn't constitute that the hammerhead starts the Paid DLC

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i do not support piracy but DLC policys like those do

the moment we where told about the in game DLC interface i heard the sound of the cash machine

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i do not support piracy but DLC policys like those do

the moment we where told about the in game DLC interface i heard the sound of the cash machine


Only in the minds of short-minded children who stomp and drag their feet when things don't go exactly the way they want things to go.

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tommythetomcat wrote...

Xivai wrote...

tommythetomcat wrote...

Xivai wrote...

You still haven't given me a source for where they have improved upon the network issues of Dragon Age. For the record.




good job quoting the wrong person there, and I'm not giving you anything because unless it's confirmed by the people who use it there is no way to know..  so you basically ask for something that is not possible,  In hopes you win the argument because you ask for information impossible to confirm. 

Great, so your not winning either. Congrats with your logic. -_-

Also I fixed my quote error. :P These forums are so backwards, all the quote buttons are reveresed of the usual forums I am on. So confusing.


Is there life outside our solar system?  I don't think there is and you need to prove to me that there is.

Its called a logical fallacy and you are using it.

One problem. We know they have had problem with networking in the past. It's not a logical falacy if there is a precident for it. Now you may not be able to prove it one way or the other, but you can't go off saying it wasn't a legitimate concern.

Irony dictates we both have an error on day one and don't get the DLC. ;) 

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The disc swap thing is almost certainly the reason why the Hammerhead is being released as DLC instead of in-game content. There's only so much space in a DVD (even a dual layer) and Blu-Ray is out because Microsoft thinks digital distribution is the way, so installing DLC on an Xbox hard drive is the only way to solve the problem.



The only problem is Microsoft keeps screwing us over when it comes to HDD pricing and selection.

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Why didn't they just finish the game and THEN release it? Ridiculous. If this is even true.


Look at it this way - you buy a car. It's a good car. Solid. Nice. Whatever. But there are features on this car that you have to pay extra for. You don't need them. The car will work fine without them. If you didn't know about the features, you'd never even miss them. But if you don't mind paying a little extra, they're there.

Bioware is dedicated to DLC. Not only is it trend in gaming, but it's something a lot of ME1 fans asked for. The last time around they promised frequent incoming content. This time around, it looks like they're going to deliver.

Yes, you are going to have pay extra for it. They're creating extra, optional stuff to put in the game if you want it. Mass Effect 2 is a robust experience all on its own, though.

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as far as i know the couple of magazines that reviewed me2 so far all have given it scores in the 90%-100% range *without* taking the dlc into account.

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Hmmm.... how much money, I wonder, and for how much content?


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well if both zaeed and the hammerhead are free new game dlc, great, really cant begrudge anything they do to encourage buying new. anyone who buys a game used, months after it been out and restocked numerous times, obviously doesnt care enough to fret over some addon.

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okay so the planets you land on with the Kodiak take you directly to the point of interest and there is no need for the hammerhead. when the hammerhead DLC comes out there will be areas in which you can use the hammerhead.



there will be no unnecessary walks because all those planets and areas will come witht he DLC.