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[TuringPoint]

Evidently it won't be an integral or helpful part of what comes out of the box. That's the important thing.

To continue someone else' analogy, it really does look like they're removing the air conditioner from the car while keeping the price the same, and adding the AC back in costs extra. That's an evaluative judgement, though - a little bit subjective.

Modifié par Alocormin, 19 janvier 2010 - 06:55 .

[HitmanInc14]

More of today's society sense of entitlement that everything should be free. It cost money to pay people to make things for the game.



I am thinking that something with the Hammerhead wasn't working out since it will be a later DLC release then a first day one. Which would lead me to believe that Bioware handed it off to its separate DLC team to work out. Would you like to work for free? Bioware dosn't either. So they charge for it. The alternative could have been to leave it out completely.



I am also guessing that the Hammerhead will not be necessary to enjoy the game, but since the game is not out yet let alone the DLC details for the Hammerhead have not be full released, it is a little hard to jump to conclusions.

[Liara-ville]

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

DocLasty wrote...

Guaritor wrote...

Not so long ago this "DLC" thing didnt even exist... and companies still put out complete games... is it so hard to assume that BW is just supporting its game with additional content instead of money grabbing?

You know what the funny thing is? One of the biggest complaints about Mass Effect 1 was the lack of DLC.

Bioware doesn't make DLC? people b**** and moan.  Bioware makes DLC? People b**** and moan.

THIS......you took the words right out of my mouth!

Modifié par Liara-ville, 19 janvier 2010 - 06:54 .

[Naltair]

robedlizard wrote...

okay so the planets you land on with the Kodiak take you directly to the point of interest and there is no need for the hammerhead. when the hammerhead DLC comes out there will be areas in which you can use the hammerhead.

there will be no unnecessary walks because all those planets and areas will come witht he DLC.

I agree the vehicle will be usable with content that comes with the vehicle.  It will not be needed for the core game and N7 missions that come with the launch game. :innocent:

[TuringPoint]

Those who complained about the Mako, including myself, did not for the most part ever say, "take away the Mako, it's unnecessary." I personally said it needed a lot of improvement, and until just recently we were all under the impression they had given the necessary improvements to the ATV rather than removing it altogether. No one objected to THAT, so your reasoning on that count is faulty.

[PingoBlack]

HitmanInc14 wrote...

More of today's society sense of entitlement that everything should be free. It cost money to pay people to make things for the game.

I had to quote this ...

People, really, if you dislike it, vote with your wallet. No point in complaining. :innocent:

[UndercoverDoctor]

Zaeed is the only DLC that will be free.

[Jarmelopt]

Alocormin wrote...

Those who complained about the Mako, including myself, did not for the most part ever say, "take away the Mako, it's unnecessary." I personally said it needed a lot of improvement, and until just recently we were all under the impression they had given the necessary improvements to the ATV rather than removing it altogether. No one objected to THAT, so your reasoning on that count is faulty.

That's pretty much correct.  Bioware it seemed, as other people have mentioned, went with the approach of remove and if they can fix it then put back in otherwise leave it out.  This is astoundingly stupid.  Either the Hammerhead will be EXTREMELY situational in which we use it for a select few side missions, we're doing ALOT of walking till it comes out, or they locked a whole lot of side missions till you get the Hammerhead.  I mean we don't even know if the missions involving Hammerhead are on the disc or not.  The fact that this isn't even day one DLC makes it look a whole lot worse.

[klossen4]

well if the hammerhead seems fun i get it.

[DocLasty]

Either the Hammerhead will be EXTREMELY situational in which we use it for a select few side missions, we're doing ALOT of walking till it comes out, or they locked a whole lot of side missions till you get the Hammerhead.



Or, the most likely scenario is that Hammerhead comes with missions that support it, and you can play Mass Effect 2 100% and never even know it was there to miss. Like the reviewers who've done so far did.

[Naltair]

DocLasty wrote...
Or, the most likely scenario is that Hammerhead comes with missions that support it, and you can play Mass Effect 2 100% and never even know it was there to miss. Like the reviewers who've done so far did.

This is the most likely scenario.

[Kolos2]

Stompi wrote...

The reviews so far were not complaining about the missing vehicle, so I wouldn't even be surprised if it is only useable in future DLC N7 missions. I don't think it will be very helpful in the main story.

I do wonder how many of those reviewers knew Hammer. gonna be optional; Kodiak worked but had zero interaction with the gameplay, the DLC $$$ vehicle will or it would be just a placeholder
 As for the money argument, so if Mako was a DLC in ME 1 you would swallow it just the like ?. hikking is healthy after all

 With this rate SR 3 gonna be an DLC too in ME3

Modifié par Kolos2, 19 janvier 2010 - 07:16 .

[Jarmelopt]

Which again means we use it in a few side missions.  So either planet exploration is locked out of the disk or we download a few missions to use the Hammerhead in. 

Modifié par Jarmelopt, 19 janvier 2010 - 07:15 .

[Naltair]

Kolos2 wrote...

Stompi wrote...

The reviews so far were not complaining about the missing vehicle, so I wouldn't even be surprised if it is only useable in future DLC N7 missions. I don't think it will be very helpful in the main story.

I do wonder how many of those reviewers knew Hammer. gonna be optional; Kodiak worked but had zero interaction with the gameplay, the DLC $$$ vehicle will or it would be just a placeholder
 As for the money argument, so if Mako was a DLC in ME 1 you would swallow it just the like ?. hikking is healthy after all

 With this rate SR 3 gonna be an DLC too in ME3

I do not understand.

[Kolos2]

Well let me qute it to you

"After launch, BioWare will release another DLC pack for Mass Effect 2 that introduces the Hammerhead, a new vehicle in the Mass Effect universe. This agile hover tank features improved handling on rough terrain and maneuvers deftly in combat -- a NECESSITY for players traveling across harsh planetary environments throughout the galaxy. "
-  Dr. Ray Muzyka

A necessity... so much for the car reference

Modifié par Kolos2, 19 janvier 2010 - 07:20 .

[DocLasty]

And look what we have in place of the all the trekking before. Check out the Polish video.



Before, in Mass Effect 1, when you raided an enemy base, you went into a large room with random parts strewn all about. It would take you a few minutes to get there, too - minutes that would be spent trying to find the right way to get up mountains. Or you'd take that time just to find minerals that count to a pointless side quest that has nothing to do with anything. It was cute the first time around, but it got old. Fast.



Now, in ME2, we have enemy bases with much more variety and length, that play like little miniature versions of the main quest stuff. They don't feel like tacked on afterthoughts, but smaller missions in and off themselves. Not only that, but the minerals you find actually do stuff now. You can use them. And finding them doesn't take five minutes of falling over mountains.



But if you prefer that tedium, it's still there - optionally.

[DocLasty]

a NECESSITY for players traveling across harsh planetary environments throughout the galaxy. "



So, basically, you think that there will be planets in Mass Effect 2 where you can land on, but do nothing with, because you haven't purchased a download that's possibly months away?

[enerqy]

I don't have any problem with dlc...however it really sucks for people without internet access (me for example). I really like the mass effect world, heck I love bioware since its bg days...but I can't help but feel quite screwed over when everything moves to digital distribution. Btw, I'm a student in a third world country and buy legit copies of games. I hope bioware releases all the 'small' dlc with expansion discs...or maybe that's just a pipe dream...