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[Jebel Krong]

Jarmelopt wrote...

Which leads back to my earlier statement. Either we do alot of walking in those empty plots, the Hammerhead is useless other than a select few sidemissions, the plots of land are locked out till we get the Hammerhead, or the missions involving the Hammerhead will only be DLC.

this. very odd choice, BW made here.

[Wrex.the.next.spectre]

Jarmelopt wrote...

DocLasty wrote...

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Stop acting so self righteous.  Most of the side missions in ME1 were optional too.  People wanted DLC in addition to the rest of the game and right now seems like they cut stuff out so it would be DLC.  I don't particularly mind for the rest of the stuff as a character and guns are very much optional but something that could possibly affect the gameplay on a large scale being left out just plain sucks.  

This isn't Bungie we are talking about, it is Bioware. They already stated that they struggled to fit as much as they could onto 2 discs. They couldn't fit any more. Making it DLC is actually adding more content that wouldn't fit.

I'll be mad if it is confirmed that the Hammerhead DLC costs money. Until then, I will be fine with the situation.

[ResidentNoob]

Crap.



I seem to be the only person here without Xbox live.

[Jarmelopt]

DocLasty wrote...

Jarmelopt wrote...

DocLasty wrote...

Yes, everything is EA's fault. Even though people screamed about there not being enough DLC for the first game.

And people wonder why most game companies don't listen to their fanbase at all. It's like trying to appease a spoiled brat; you just can't make him happy. They make DLC? People complain about having to buy extra. They don't make it? People complain about not having anything else to do. They make it DLC available from the start? People complain about it not being with the full game. They wait a few months? People complain about it taking too long.

Bringing the Hammerhead out like this is the best way to appeal to both groups. If you hated the Mako sequences and prefer to just get to the action, now you have that option. If you liked the sequences, you now have that option, too. Regardless, either way, ME2 is a massive game with hours and hours of content, and nobody who's played it has accused it of feeling unfinished or anything.

Honestly. Some people just aren't happy until they're unhappy.

Stop acting so self righteous.  Most of the side missions in ME1 were optional too.  People wanted DLC in addition to the rest of the game and right now seems like they cut stuff out so it would be DLC.  I don't particularly mind for the rest of the stuff as a character and guns are very much optional but something that could possibly affect the gameplay on a large scale being left out just plain sucks.  

If it affected gameplay that much, it would have come up by now. Someone who's played the game would have noted it and put it in their review. There's been no indication that taking the Mako out has any negative effect at all; if anything, it all points to the contrary. You're just doomsaying.

It has been mentioned in multiple reviews as it seems odd that a huge part of the first game is pretty much gone.  Also note the word possibly which looks more and more like a very select few missions that are DLC will feature the Hammerhead.  Besides the reviewers can't exactly comment on an aspect that isn't there anymore.  We still have a ton more reviews coming out soon and it'll be interesting to see how this falls in.

@Wrex.the.next.spectre

I doubt the Hammerhead is going to take that much space.  However if the Hammerhead isn't in the game that means the missions involving it. most likely won't be on the disk either.  Thus we can conclude that either there is going to be huge amounts of DLC that will allow the use of the Hammerhead or just a handful of missions that just feature the vehicle.

@ResidentNoob
Sucks to be you.

Modifié par Jarmelopt, 19 janvier 2010 - 08:46 .

[kregano]

ResidentNoob wrote...

Crap.

I seem to be the only person here without Xbox live.

I went without Live until like a month ago because I had a crappy internet connection. There is a way to hook it up to dialup if you're really desperate, but it'll take forever for anything to download.

[ResidentNoob]

Jarmelopt wrote...

@ResidentNoob
Sucks to be you.

I know, dude. I know.

[Nozybidaj]

Jarmelopt wrote...

I doubt the Hammerhead is going to take that much space.  However if the Hammerhead isn't in the game that means the missions involving it. most likely won't be on the disk either.  Thus we can conclude that either there is going to be huge amounts of DLC that will allow the use of the Hammerhead or just a handful of missions that just feature the vehicle.

It would not be unheard of to have content already on the disk be unlocked through DLC.  Not saying it is or isn't, just making a point.

[WrexShepard]

I think the real issue is the mission areas to use the Mako take up a lot of space. I imagine they'll be on worlds we can already go on for N7 missions but be in different locations.

[Wrex.the.next.spectre]

Jarmelopt wrote...


@Wrex.the.next.spectre

I doubt the Hammerhead is going to take that much space.  However if the Hammerhead isn't in the game that means the missions involving it. most likely won't be on the disk either.  Thus we can conclude that either there is going to be huge amounts of DLC that will allow the use of the Hammerhead or just a handful of missions that just feature the vehicle.

If you are right, I hope for the first case(huge amounts of DLC).

If it was the 2nd case, then I would be upset.

[muse108]

Bizarre, doesn't make sense.

[CandraZ]

Ok I'm not reading through nine pages but I read the official article and no where on there does it say the hammerhead is free. But then again it doesn't list a price either, so does anyone know yet if it's free or not??

[CandraZ]

Ok there are actually two things I wish the dev's would confirm, first is if the Hammerheads free, second is if we have any need for it in anything that comes with the game..

[DharmaIniative108]

I guess if there is no vehicle for exploration. Thats rules out planet hazards

[Br0th3rGr1mm]

Br0th3rGr1mm wrote...
If it helps you sleep at night, believe whatever you want.  I wish Bioware would just be honest about why they are generating day one DLC with every game from now on (I'm guessing the answer to that is, "EA has demanded it").  However, I can't really blame a company for wanting to get some small revenue out of a used game sale (or discouraging a used game sale altogether).  I just want them to be honest about it and stop all this "my dog made Shale too big to fit thru a door..." crap.

Thier story about the Hammerhead should be entertaining, at least.

Ok...I wrote this without reading the press release (my bad).  They ARE being fully honest about it this time and I DON'T begrudge them attempting to get some revenue or discourage used game sales (I'm all for this method).

Also, there is a division of the company called EA Bioware and if you don't think they answer to some higher ups within EA itself, you have no idea how a coperation works.  When I say "EA Demands It", I mean, a corperate decision has been made that all games published by EA WILL have DAY ONE DLC if at all possible.  The fact that Bioware is now a division of EA is not even in question here...it's a publishing issue.

[xIxDarkWolfxIx]

People that seem to be complaining about the fact of Day1 release of DLC are kind of missing something. Many games are finished about a month before release, this is due to Publishing and Ratings having to be sorted out. So what to do during this time, simple make some DLC to please the fanbase, or not in some cases.

[Jarmelopt]

xIxDarkWolfxIx wrote...

People that seem to be complaining about the fact of Day1 release of DLC are kind of missing something. Many games are finished about a month before release, this is due to Publishing and Ratings having to be sorted out. So what to do during this time, simple make some DLC to please the fanbase, or not in some cases.

Only thing is they have been bragging about the Hammerhead for awhile now.

[Apollo Starflare]

Thanks for not only supplying free DLC on day one, but also setting out what looks like a sturdy DLC plan for me2 in the future. Look forward to getting some clarification on the Hammerhead DLC, however at least we know it's in the game for certain now.

[FutureBoy81]

ResidentNoob wrote...

Crap.

I seem to be the only person here without Xbox live.

Your not the only one bud ...

[FutureBoy81]

Apollo Starflare wrote...

Thanks for not only supplying free DLC on day one, but also setting out what looks like a sturdy DLC plan for me2 in the future. Look forward to getting some clarification on the Hammerhead DLC, however at least we know it's in the game for certain now.

Technicly its not in the game ....

[Wrex.the.next.spectre]

Elithranduil wrote...

Wrex.the.next.spectre wrote...

Jarmelopt wrote...

DocLasty wrote...

Stop acting so self righteous.  Most of the side missions in ME1 were optional too.  People wanted DLC in addition to the rest of the game and right now seems like they cut stuff out so it would be DLC.  I don't particularly mind for the rest of the stuff as a character and guns are very much optional but something that could possibly affect the gameplay on a large scale being left out just plain sucks.  

This isn't Bungie we are talking about, it is Bioware. They already stated that they struggled to fit as much as they could onto 2 discs. They couldn't fit any more. Making it DLC is actually adding more content that wouldn't fit.

I'll be mad if it is confirmed that the Hammerhead DLC costs money. Until then, I will be fine with the situation.

Bless their hearts. They tried as hard as they could to squeeze in that extra content for their beloved players, but it just was not possible. The disc was literally bursting at the seams.

Because Discs have seams... <_<

I don't think Bioware employees are a bunch of perfect angels, but I don't believe they are a bunch of greedy pricks either.

[Frostbittenjam]

Well I agree with this from the point of view that this will dissuade pirates and get Bioware more money from re-sold games, but I am purchasing the game brand new (pre-order!!) and am currently in a situation where I will be unable to connect to Live to download the content. Thus I will be without it for (most likely) my entire first play through. I am sure there are others in the same situation, so that is one of the draw backs to this. It was the same situation for me with the DA downloads, and while it didn't really detract from the game for the first play through, Shale quickly became one of my favourite characters once I managed to downloaded her, and I realized what I had been missing.

[Jarmelopt]

Frostbittenjam wrote...

Well I agree with this from the point of view that this will dissuade pirates and get Bioware more money from re-sold games, but I am purchasing the game brand new (pre-order!!) and am currently in a situation where I will be unable to connect to Live to download the content. Thus I will be without it for (most likely) my entire first play through. I am sure there are others in the same situation, so that is one of the draw backs to this. It was the same situation for me with the DA downloads, and while it didn't really detract from the game for the first play through, Shale quickly became one of my favourite characters once I managed to downloaded her, and I realized what I had been missing.

If you have internet(through wireless) via a laptop or desktop then you can connect an ethernet cable from the computer to the Xbox.  You just have to change some network settings(dead easy) and presto.  Now if you can't pay for Live or DLC, that is another story.

[eldon_tyrell]

 The way they've phrased it is pretty confusing, but I stumbled upon an explanation on 1up that did a good job of clearing it up. Quoted parts of the article are bold/italicized and the link to the actual piece is at the bottom of this post. Sorry if I repeat anything that's already been mentioned in this thread. This info cleared it up the issue for me and I thought I'd pass along...

• New game purchases will receive access to the Cerberus Network free of charge as well as a free download of the Zaleed character. The Hammerhead is *not* included in this. 

• Those who buy the game used will need to purchase a code for the Cerberus Network separately if they want to access ME2 DLC. Basically - and this is a little strange - you're paying $5 or whatever to just have the ability to buy more content.("EA will still get a small bump in profits from those who save some money at the check-out. We don't know how much the Cerberus Network will cost yet, of course. But even at a hypothetical $5, it seems like players will essentially be paying for the ability to buy more content.") 

• "Future Mass Effect 2 DLC plans include a Hammerhead tank, Eviscerator shotgun, and various other items and armor." = The Hammerhead will cost extra and will most likely be used on UNC worlds DLC to be released at a later date. So, you don't need the Hammerhead for a straight playthrough of the game...you'll need it for future DLC. 

• All of this is to offset Gamestop's discounting of said used games. "GameStop, the most famous (or infamous) retailer in the used game business, tends to mark down popular games by $5-8. By roping off used copies from that amount (or more) worth of DLC, EA is essentially stripping any savings from buying used -- and that may be exactly the point."

www.1up.com/do/newsStory

Modifié par eldon_tyrell, 20 janvier 2010 - 05:24 .