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GI vs Geth Trooper which is better and why?


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Lamer is a stupid annoying power, end of story.




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IamZAE wrote...

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@chromatix here ya go

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=r7w8zYJb0D0

http://m.youtube.com...a&v=9Sktdzb7WWQ

Okay, you win. 

Well, is there any info about different maps? Like, who's faster on Hydra - GI or GT?

Glacier is a map different from any other, the fact. 


Chromatic not my intention to be rude or pick a fight, I am merely bringing this debate for discussion with the hopes that EVERYONE reading will think about each kit with no biased and no coolness factor. And come to a logical debate about which of the two powerhouses reign supreme

Okay, now this is conversation.

What do you think about map differences? Of course, on Glacier GT wins, because it's Glacier and it is small. Jade (to some degree) and White are there as well, but what do you think about bigger and more open maps?
If this game had only one environment or had some kind of DPS-test dolls, it would be one question. But compraring, say, preformance against Glacier Reapers and Hydra Cerberus is another.

My point is, GT has insane damage potential, you can't neither hurt it or maximise like you can with weapons (if you have 100% headshots, it's easy to compete with Flamer, fact) but you need to realise it, and some maps, where many enemies can be shot down by something like Talon GI while you running into Flamer Proximity hurts your damage potential, while GI's unstrict effective range allows him to deal more damage during the match overall.

At the end of the day, you can't not admit, that many noobs are using GT, because he's easy, and those noobs can never reach such potential with GI.

Modifié par Chromatix, 20 septembre 2013 - 01:53 .


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prostheticlimbs wrote...

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Depends on player skill, even more so than most class comparisons. A good player will wreck with either, but do so faster with a GI. GT specced into Flamer is nearly as much a noobcrutch as the Juggy; it doesn't take much ability or experience to spam the same massive-damage-rapid-cooldown ability for 20 minutes nonstop.



Dude I'm askin which is better and why. Not if flamer is ethical or not.

Huntermode in general is by far the crutchiest thing in game even above hosting


dafuq.

I never see people playing Geth unless they're from the BSN and then when they do play, they spec completely out of Hunter Mode because, and I quote, "I die too much." What is your definition of crutch Zae? Because you're confusing the shit out of me right now.


Its all personal experience really...before I was on BSN I saw a lot of people using the geth WITH hunter mode...hunter mode does make everything 10xs better so I can see why it would be seen as a crutch... 

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Hydra AND condor would be telling maps for duos.... It should be heavily favored for gi. If they kill evenly and gt wins on smaller map then it's safe to say that hunter ode speed and vision makes bigger maps less of a factor for the gt having to be upclose

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RZIBARA wrote...

maybe you dont like it. Doesnt mean others dont like it. 



Talk about people being butthurt and then make a comment like that. Maybe people just don't like flamer, don't know if that thought e we occurred to you. Instead they are just Butthurt because they have a differing opinion from yours. 

Your ignorance is pretty amusing

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Zyzimorph is pretty much by the book, do it honorably, do it right, play straight up type of guy.

I will shove dirt in your face, kick you in the balls, talk about your mamma, get my boys to jump you kind of guy (meaning I will cheese and nuke spawns if I have to)

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Quotes about the Flamer ruining the game (where it doesnt at all, don't like it good for you, but theres no reason to go on BSN and make yourself look like a bigshot by making fun of people who like a kit, it doesnt make you look cool, it makes you look like a ******), and it being for pathetic noobs make me the ignorant one right?

Read the thread

Modifié par RZIBARA, 20 septembre 2013 - 02:00 .


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RZIBARA wrote...

Quotes about the Flamer ruining the game, and it being for pathetic noobs make me the ignorant one right?

Read the thread

Flamer is not ruining the game. Flamer is OP.

And for many people, OP things are ruining the game, those are their opinions. And they have a right to post it on free boards, okay? It doesn't mean people are butthurt, they dislike flamer and that's it.

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I think the GI is way more versatile then the GT. If you know you're on a small map, the GT wins it for me. But in almost any other situation, the GI is better. Remember, a GI has so many different builds that work, whereas the GT only has the flamer with reegar incendiary build that's at the same level. I'd always prefer to bring a GI into u/u/p...

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IamZAE wrote...

Hydra AND condor would be telling maps for duos.... It should be heavily favored for gi. If they kill evenly and gt wins on smaller map then it's safe to say that hunter ode speed and vision makes bigger maps less of a factor for the gt having to be upclose


...and Rio, Dagger, London, Vancouver, most of Giant... All favor the GI's range advantage. 

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Chromatix wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

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@chromatix here ya go

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=r7w8zYJb0D0

http://m.youtube.com...a&v=9Sktdzb7WWQ

Okay, you win. 

Well, is there any info about different maps? Like, who's faster on Hydra - GI or GT?

Glacier is a map different from any other, the fact. 


Chromatic not my intention to be rude or pick a fight, I am merely bringing this debate for discussion with the hopes that EVERYONE reading will think about each kit with no biased and no coolness factor. And come to a logical debate about which of the two powerhouses reign supreme

Okay, now this is conversation.

What do you think about map differences? Of course, on Glacier GT wins, because it's Glacier and it is small. Jade (to some degree) and White are there as well, but what do you think about bigger and more open maps?
If this game had only one environment or had some kind of DPS-test dolls, it would be one question. But compraring, say, preformance against Glacier Reapers and Hydra Cerberus is another.

My point is, GT has insane damage potential, you can't neither hurt it or maximise like you can with weapons (if you have 100% headshots, it's easy to compete with Flamer, fact) but you need to realise it, and some maps, where many enemies can be shot down by something like Talon GI while you running into Flamer Proximity hurts your damage potential, while GI's unstrict effective range allows him to deal more damage during the match overall.

At the end of the day, you can't not admit, that many noobs are using GT, because he's easy, and those noobs can never reach such potential with GI.

It's not platinum, but if you look in this thread, you'll see that Haxn14 playing the Reegar Geth Trooper has the fastest gold solo time record on 6 different maps including Condor and (both) Ghosts (the rest are basically split between GI's and Proguards.)

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 20 septembre 2013 - 02:05 .


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megabeast37215 wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

Hydra AND condor would be telling maps for duos.... It should be heavily favored for gi. If they kill evenly and gt wins on smaller map then it's safe to say that hunter ode speed and vision makes bigger maps less of a factor for the gt having to be upclose


...and Rio, Dagger, London, Vancouver, most of Giant... All favor the GI's range advantage. 


remember the gt can equip a weapon with range as well too... Like hurricane or whatever, it doesn't have to be reegar carbine. flamer does enough damage without adding the dark lord Reggie's services

Modifié par IamZAE, 20 septembre 2013 - 02:07 .


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@Fishy pls, we're talking about Flamer-only preformance, okay?

Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.

How many more times do i have to repeat this?

Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.
Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.
Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.
Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.
Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.

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Chromatix wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Quotes about the Flamer ruining the game, and it being for pathetic noobs make me the ignorant one right?

Read the thread

Flamer is not ruining the game. Flamer is OP.

And for many people, OP things are ruining the game, those are their opinions. And they have a right to post it on free boards, okay? It doesn't mean people are butthurt, they dislike flamer and that's it.


This. 

I hate that it blinds me, and I hate that it allows idiots who are trash to compete with me on the scoreboard... It's even worse when someone who is good at the game uses it... Makes me wish I wasn't even in the game, as I'm no longer needed bc OP Flamer spam can take care of everything. This is why I typically kick players using Flamer kits from my lobbies... Well... When I still bother playing this garbage ass game.

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Chromatix wrote...

@Fishy pls, we're talking about Flamer-only preformance, okay?

Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.

How many more times do i have to repeat this?

Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.
Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.
Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.
Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.
Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.


but inciendieary glitch is part of the game and should be included in the discussion whether it's ethical or not

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megabeast37215 wrote...

This. 

I hate that it blinds me, and I hate that it allows idiots who are trash to compete with me on the scoreboard... It's even worse when someone who is good at the game uses it... Makes me wish I wasn't even in the game, as I'm no longer needed bc OP Flamer spam can take care of everything. This is why I typically kick players using Flamer kits from my lobbies... Well... When I still bother playing this garbage ass game.


lolwat

all i can say is wow, at all of this 

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Chromatix wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Quotes about the Flamer ruining the game, and it being for pathetic noobs make me the ignorant one right?

Read the thread

Flamer is not ruining the game. Flamer is OP.

And for many people, OP things are ruining the game, those are their opinions. And they have a right to post it on free boards, okay? It doesn't mean people are butthurt, they dislike flamer and that's it. 


This. 

I hate that it blinds me, and I hate that it allows idiots who are trash to compete with me on the scoreboard... It's even worse when someone who is good at the game uses it... Makes me wish I wasn't even in the game, as I'm no longer needed bc OP Flamer spam can take care of everything. This is why I typically kick players using Flamer kits from my lobbies... Well... When I still bother playing this garbage ass game.


Lol the elitistism in this post shows... 

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Well, if we have those legal glitches it doesn't matter, because is something we can use, so they can be put as a measure to determine if something is better or worse.

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IamZAE wrote...

Chromatix wrote...

@Fishy pls, we're talking about Flamer-only preformance, okay?

Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.

How many more times do i have to repeat this?

Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.
Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.
Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.
Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.
Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.


but inciendieary glitch is part of the game and should be included in the discussion whether it's ethical or not

Well, then GI totally sucks. That's all.

Then everything is put to rest. Best kits are:

1) Geth Trooper
2) Batarian Soldier
3) Krogan Soldier
4) Vorcha Sentinel

Modifié par Chromatix, 20 septembre 2013 - 02:11 .


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IamZAE wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Chromatix wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Quotes about the Flamer ruining the game, and it being for pathetic noobs make me the ignorant one right?

Read the thread

Flamer is not ruining the game. Flamer is OP.

And for many people, OP things are ruining the game, those are their opinions. And they have a right to post it on free boards, okay? It doesn't mean people are butthurt, they dislike flamer and that's it. 


This. 

I hate that it blinds me, and I hate that it allows idiots who are trash to compete with me on the scoreboard... It's even worse when someone who is good at the game uses it... Makes me wish I wasn't even in the game, as I'm no longer needed bc OP Flamer spam can take care of everything. This is why I typically kick players using Flamer kits from my lobbies... Well... When I still bother playing this garbage ass game.


Lol the elitistism in this post shows... 

MLG PRO :police:

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WTF is this, Zae and I agree in something..

Something bad is happening.

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Chromatix wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

Chromatix wrote...

@Fishy pls, we're talking about Flamer-only preformance, okay?

Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh. 

How many more times do i have to repeat this?

Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh. 
Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh. 
Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh. 
Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh. 
Of course incendiary glitch puts every other argument to the grave, but meh.


but inciendieary glitch is part of the game and should be included in the discussion whether it's ethical or not

Well, then GI totally sucks. That's all. 


The krogan soldier is a better kit anyways... Just sayin

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RedJohn wrote...

WTF is this, Zae and I agree in something..

Something bad is happening.


i agree with a lot of stuff you say, I just think you are a knucklehead

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RZIBARA wrote...

Quotes about the Flamer ruining the game (where it doesnt at all, don't like it good for you, but theres no reason to go on BSN and make yourself look like a bigshot by making fun of people who like a kit, it doesnt make you look cool, it makes you look like a ******), and it being for pathetic noobs make me the ignorant one right?

Read the thread


I do not hate flamer because it does an exceptional job at killing things, I hate flamer because of the obnoxious characteristics it has, for me this is the sound and color. In a crowded area even if flamer was doing 1000 less damage than the avenger, it has a great advantage, because your team mates using powers that are not aoe or guns can't see ****- yes this is fact. On top of this the sound, its like using a blender to blend something, or a vacum to clean the house, it overshadows the sound of many other things.

If flamer produced the same visual effect like geth scanner then it would be a perfectly good skill to me apart for the mindless spaming which really isn't that much of an issue because all of the kits in this game are mindless spaming, some just have added sequences.

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Yo Son wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Quotes about the Flamer ruining the game (where it doesnt at all, don't like it good for you, but theres no reason to go on BSN and make yourself look like a bigshot by making fun of people who like a kit, it doesnt make you look cool, it makes you look like a ******), and it being for pathetic noobs make me the ignorant one right?

Read the thread


I do not hate flamer because it does an exceptional job at killing things, I hate flamer because of the obnoxious characteristics it has, for me this is the sound and color. In a crowded area even if flamer was doing 1000 less damage than the avenger, it has a great advantage, because your team mates using powers that are not aoe or guns can't see ****- yes this is fact. On top of this the sound, its like using a blender to blend something, or a vacum to clean the house, it overshadows the sound of many other things.

If flamer produced the same visual effect like geth scanner then it would be a perfectly good skill to me apart for the mindless spaming which really isn't that much of an issue because all of the kits in this game are mindless spaming, some just have added sequences.


it still doesnt mean you have the right to insult people for something they enjoy. If you dont want to play with flamer players, leave the game or kick them, but coming to a forum and making fun of people that play it is ridiculous. And so is comparing MGing to a power in the game