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[IamZAE]

wngmv wrote...

Gold Scrubtre reporting for duty

first duty, scrub my back... nah im jk lol. come to eggz box and well bank, ok. platinum ofcourse

[DullahansXMark]

GT, you say?

[Geek]

The Talon in the right team spawn control setup is by far the most OP kit in the game. Outside of that setup it is just regular OP like everything else.

As far as GI vs GT they are both great but I have to go with GI it is a lot more versatile.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

This thread gave me a headache like I knew it would. Why do I keep doing this to myself?

[Yo Son]

IamZAE wrote...

Yo Son wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

to stay on topic, what do you bsners think of the talon mercenary? do yall think this kit has the intestinal fortitude to out dps either of these geth powerhouses?

Yes; with the last rank on elite mercenary, regenerate mines 100 percent faster, along with granade capacity V or assualt load out, you can spam mines and not run out; not even the melee GI can out DPS on gold, and is a different story on plat.

ok dont mention the word "gold" in my thread. thx for your cooperation

Fine sliver?

[Titus Thongger]

I only play on wood difficulty.

[Tokenusername]

[Salarian Jesus]

b00g13man wrote...

This thread gave me a headache like I knew it would. Why do I keep doing this to myself?

[mybudgee]

How is this thread still going?!?

[Ganius]

I always skip Hunter Mode on Geth Inf/Sol/Eng because it hurts my eyes.
So without HM, I think
* Geth Trooper is better as a power kit
* Geth Infiltrator is better as a gun kit, especially sniper rifles
* They are equal as melee kits. Because dat cloak and dat fortification

[Jaun Shepard]

You guys underestimate the Aoe powers of the melee GI, it + Venom can rape spawns better than cane mines and still have better weapon damage than the trooper with something like a hurricane side arm.

[Deerber]

Actually, whoever says the answer is GI without thinking should... Think more about that. It's not *that* clearly cut out.

Did you know that a Javelin GT has exactly the same TTK for all the enemies in this game than a GI Javelin?

[Wizard of Ox]

Deerber wrote...

Actually, whoever says the answer is GI without thinking should... Think more about that. It's not *that* clearly cut out.

Did you know that a Javelin GT has exactly the same TTK for all the enemies in this game than a GI Javelin?

How's that? He has Cloak + Proxy. I understand for minions it'll be akin but for bosses idk. Plus, they have the same passives iirc. 

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

Deerber wrote...

Actually, whoever says the answer is GI without thinking should... Think more about that. It's not *that* clearly cut out.

Did you know that a Javelin GT has exactly the same TTK for all the enemies in this game than a GI Javelin?

The Javelin's TTK for all mooks is 0.25 seconds regardless of what kit it's on. GI would appear to have the upper hand due to the 80% bonus from cloak, and the 20% debuff from Proxy mine. Please elaborate.

[squaredgonzo]

i could care less of what kits you use tbh. People are too much of an epeen here that it's actually funny. if someone wants to spam flamer/tgi harrie/reegarcheese/gi hurrdurr, you're being an idiot if you judge them based on their subjective definition of "fun".. Everything boils down to one's preference. Whether TGI/AIU/GT/GI/Fury, who honestly gives a crap. Elitism is fun and all, at the end of the day.. It's just a game.

[DesioPL]

Let be clear...

Geth Trooper is really awesome for crowd control. Flamer and no one can touch you.

But Geth Infiltrator is good against bosses, since proximity mines + hunter mode.

[Deerber]

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Actually, whoever says the answer is GI without thinking should... Think more about that. It's not *that* clearly cut out.

Did you know that a Javelin GT has exactly the same TTK for all the enemies in this game than a GI Javelin?

How's that? He has Cloak + Proxy. I understand for minions it'll be akin but for bosses idk. Plus, they have the same passives iirc. 

FatherOfPearl wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Actually, whoever says the answer is GI without thinking should... Think more about that. It's not *that* clearly cut out.

Did you know that a Javelin GT has exactly the same TTK for all the enemies in this game than a GI Javelin?

The Javelin's TTK for all mooks is 0.25 seconds regardless of what kit it's on. GI would appear to have the upper hand due to the 80% bonus from cloak, and the 20% debuff from Proxy mine. Please elaborate.

You are underestimating the power of flamer reload hiding.

The true TTK, the one which is important, is the time that passes between the first time you start shooting at an enemy, and the time you can start shooting at another. So it includes reload time.

The GI does have a much higher damage output per shot, but it does next to no damage during the reload, while the GT can spam a super powerful flamer in that time.

As FatherOfPearl said, the TTK for any enemy smaller than a Ravager is the time it takes to the Javelin to fire one (head)shot. The only difference is that sometimes, against some enemies, the GI is capable of OHK with bodyshots, while the GT is not. If your aim is true however, they are the same. Even if it's not (Phantoms are not always that easy to headshot) and you score a bodyshot, flamer reload will take care of the remaining bars.

Against stuff bigger than a Ravager, the flamer reload hiding starts to pull its weight. Against a Ravager for example, a GI can OHK it, while a GT will leave it with a few bars on, but the flamer reload will take care of that easily (killing all swarmers in the process, by the way).

That works the same for every other unit.

Brutes? 2 shots.
Banshees? 3 shots/2 if you wait for cloak/flamer to recharge after the first
Scions? 1 shot from the right angle, 2 otherwise
Praetorians? 3 shots

and so on 

Modifié par Deerber, 20 septembre 2013 - 10:11 .

[Zyzimorph]

I was getting at the fact that this served no relevant point to any conversation here.  Saying that is the sane thing as me trying to kick a baseball.

Lrn2comprehend

RZIBARA wrote...

Zyzimorph wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Also, Mass effect games arent only about MP

Lol, you are ridiculous.

Really? how? If i remember correctly i bought ME titles for story and characters, not MP.

MP just ended up being a lot of fun.

Please explain how i am wrong here

Modifié par Zyzimorph, 20 septembre 2013 - 10:43 .

[Wizard of Ox]

Deerber wrote...

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Actually, whoever says the answer is GI without thinking should... Think more about that. It's not *that* clearly cut out.

Did you know that a Javelin GT has exactly the same TTK for all the enemies in this game than a GI Javelin?

How's that? He has Cloak + Proxy. I understand for minions it'll be akin but for bosses idk. Plus, they have the same passives iirc. 

FatherOfPearl wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Actually, whoever says the answer is GI without thinking should... Think more about that. It's not *that* clearly cut out.

Did you know that a Javelin GT has exactly the same TTK for all the enemies in this game than a GI Javelin?

The Javelin's TTK for all mooks is 0.25 seconds regardless of what kit it's on. GI would appear to have the upper hand due to the 80% bonus from cloak, and the 20% debuff from Proxy mine. Please elaborate.

You are underestimating the power of flamer reload hiding.

The true TTK, the one which is important, is the time that passes between the first time you start shooting at an enemy, and the time you can start shooting at another. So it includes reload time.

The GI does have a much higher damage output per shot, but it does next to no damage during the reload, while the GT can spam a super powerful flamer in that time.

As FatherOfPearl said, the TTK for any enemy smaller than a Ravager is the time it takes to the Javelin to fire one (head)shot. The only difference is that sometimes, against some enemies, the GI is capable of OHK with bodyshots, while the GT is not. If your aim is true however, they are the same. Even if it's not (Phantoms are not always that easy to headshot) and you score a bodyshot, flamer reload will take care of the remaining bars.

Against stuff bigger than a Ravager, the flamer reload hiding starts to pull its weight. Against a Ravager for example, a GI can OHK it, while a GT will leave it with a few bars on, but the flamer reload will take care of that easily (killing all swarmers in the process, by the way).

That works the same for every other unit.

Brutes? 2 shots.
Banshees? 3 shots/2 if you wait for cloak/flamer to recharge after the first
Scions? 1 shot from the right angle, 2 otherwise
Praetorians? 3 shots

and so on 

Ok. I assumed you were talking about the flamerless trooper, hence my incomprehension. With this I agree - although I hate flamer too much to use it. 

[Muhkida]

Looks like the mods are off today....

[DarkseidXIII]

GI.
GT gets [X] for flamer.
Can I get an amen?

[Max Dmian]

GI is better, GT is easier.

[DHKany]

megabeast37215 wrote...

More proof why this game is trash... Something's ability to use a game-breaking glitch makes it 'better'. Lol BSN logic... And lol @ Biower's inability to release properly working kits and then never fix/address them, all the while raking in real $$$ for stupid RNG packs. Unprofessional, unethical, irresponsible, garbage video game work. They should be ashamed of themselves. Other worthy MP titles would be raked over the coals for allowing this to go on in their game, and then... They'd fix it! But here, on BSN... Glitches and cheese make things 'good' or 'better'. What a bunch of rose-colored glasses wearing fanboys.

This was not directed solely at you RJ...

/end rant

the irony in this post is too much. 

[d_nought]

DHKany wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

More proof why this game is trash... Something's ability to use a game-breaking glitch makes it 'better'. Lol BSN logic... And lol @ Biower's inability to release properly working kits and then never fix/address them, all the while raking in real $$$ for stupid RNG packs. Unprofessional, unethical, irresponsible, garbage video game work. They should be ashamed of themselves. Other worthy MP titles would be raked over the coals for allowing this to go on in their game, and then... They'd fix it! But here, on BSN... Glitches and cheese make things 'good' or 'better'. What a bunch of rose-colored glasses wearing fanboys.

This was not directed solely at you RJ...

/end rant

the irony in this post is too much.