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metatheurgist wrote...

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I find it creepier that I can collect and sell wolf pelts. Like, I've got a blight to stop but I'm gonna sit around and skin animals all day instead.
*shudder*

I thought skinning the werewolves was way more disturbing....


Yeah, that's pretty screwed up, when you think about it.

That werewolf used to be a person. And you're skinning him. And then you're selling his "pelt" for money.

What's next, checking dead bodies for gold teeth? Eh, it's not like he needs them anymore. Let's just get out the pliers ...

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 How about a killer ant eater? :wizard:

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I remember something in the codex saying that wild animals like wolves and bears were acting more aggressive than normal because of the Blight's influence.

Hippos are terrifying, aggressive, and commonly attack humans. They're surprisingly fast and those funny looking teeth are razor sharp. Not to mention the crushing force of the jaws...might as well get caught by a giant trash compactor. Would be odd to find one somewhere like Ferelden, but might not be out of the question to find them elsewhere in Thedas.

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MacLemore says what do you know about rockin' that wolf on your forehead ?
No much. The ranchers are afraid the wolves will kill their livestock .
But if the Yellowstone caldera explodes it will destroy the US.
So none of that will matter.
Someone mentioned if you sided with the werewolves in DAO, the wolves will have trouble controlling themselves , as will the lady afterwards.
Go back to the forrest in DAI and find out.

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thats1evildude wrote...

metatheurgist wrote...

mutant_anemone wrote...
I find it creepier that I can collect and sell wolf pelts. Like, I've got a blight to stop but I'm gonna sit around and skin animals all day instead.
*shudder*

I thought skinning the werewolves was way more disturbing....


Yeah, that's pretty screwed up, when you think about it.

That werewolf used to be a person. And you're skinning him. And then you're selling his "pelt" for money.

What's next, checking dead bodies for gold teeth? Eh, it's not like he needs them anymore. Let's just get out the pliers ...


Don't know that that'd be more disturbing than skinning something that used to be a man for profit.  I think the next step would be harvesting organs.

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Don't know that that'd be more disturbing than skinning something that used to be a man for profit.  I think the next step would be harvesting organs.


Well, it would be immoral to just leave those organs lying around.
Edit:  Of course taking organs could be seen as amoral, depending on your morality.

Modifié par Pistolized, 21 septembre 2013 - 03:00 .


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Allan Schumacher wrote...

I should take a picture of my foot for you. I got bitten by a (scary
Australian) spider about a month ago and I still have scarring over
about 10cms.


No you should not. :mellow:


Why can't I stop laughing?! OH GOD, IT HURTS! Make it stop!:o:D

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thats1evildude wrote...
Somewhere, a paleontologist is crying over your suggestion that there is a correlation between dinosaurs and dragons.


Dragons are dinosaurs, ancient peoples romanticize them and calling them dragons. My people call them "Naga" in which driven from Sanskrit meaning giant snake.

My mom tell me her story, at that time my country was just liberated from British, there was a British guy in the village, not sure why he's there, my mom was a little girl that time, telling about there is a dragon in the river, that white man listen carefully...well yes, even today we can hear the sound in the river, don't know if it is a dragon or other thing, but in the night we can hear the sound like a big thing swimming

Naga Tasik Chini is a popular legend in my country, it is similar like Lochness dragon, that is there is a dragon in the lake. Many peoples have swim there even researchers, rumors said they don't find the dragon but they found old ruins instead, pyramids, but until now the government refuse to acknowledge their find, it is something about "pyramids only belong to Egyptians and Mayans". Speculation say that the dragon come from the ruin and there must be a dragon hive inside

Maybe dragons are ancient dinosaurs that survived, we have crocodiles and Comodo lizard today (a very big lizard that have poisonous saliva) so it is not a surprise if in ancient time there are still big lizards that spit acid, or venom but the ancient peoples romanticize them making dragons spitting fire. Well some snakes do spit venom...

Modifié par Qistina, 21 septembre 2013 - 06:00 .


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Allan Schumacher wrote...

I always miss the consequences of spider bites in RPGs. Like, you just drink the antipoison potion. Where's the slow slide into blood poisoning? I wanted Fenris to drink all those bottles of wine and show me the spider bite he got fighting my battles.


Despite cries of realism from many, it often just isn't fun ;)


LOL I really really want to be able to quote you on this on alot of posts...

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Qistina wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...
Somewhere, a paleontologist is crying over your suggestion that there is a correlation between dinosaurs and dragons.


Dragons are dinosaurs, ancient peoples romanticize them and calling them dragons. My people call them "Naga" in which driven from Sanskrit meaning giant snake.

My mom tell me her story, at that time my country was just liberated from British, there was a British guy in the village, not sure why he's there, my mom was a little girl that time, telling about there is a dragon in the river, that white man listen carefully...well yes, even today we can hear the sound in the river, don't know if it is a dragon or other thing, but in the night we can hear the sound like a big thing swimming

Naga Tasik Chini is a popular legend in my country, it is similar like Lochness dragon, that is there is a dragon in the lake. Many peoples have swim there even researchers, rumors said they don't find the dragon but they found old ruins instead, pyramids, but until now the government refuse to acknowledge their find, it is something about "pyramids only belong to Egyptians and Mayans". Speculation say that the dragon come from the ruin and there must be a dragon hive inside

Maybe dragons are ancient dinosaurs that survived, we have crocodiles and Comodo lizard today (a very big lizard that have poisonous saliva) so it is not a surprise if in ancient time there are still big lizards that spit acid, or venom but the ancient peoples romanticize them making dragons spitting fire. Well some snakes do spit venom...


I love how you've gone completely off topic so let me join you. I don't know if dragons are supposed to be lizards, but dinosaurs actually aren't or even related much to lizards. They're in a group which includes birds and crcodilians.

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Pistolized wrote...

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Don't know that that'd be more disturbing than skinning something that used to be a man for profit.  I think the next step would be harvesting organs.


Well, it would be immoral to just leave those organs lying around.
Edit:  Of course taking organs could be seen as amoral, depending on your morality.

Yup, I've already agreed to have mine harvested in the event of an untimely death. I think it just depends on whether you murdered the werewolf for their pelt or are just being resourceful

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Dragons fly, don't they? We know (because of finds in china) that there is a correlation between dinosaurs and birds, and probably crocodilles as well. Is it that far fetched that at some point in time dinosaurs such as plesiosaurus may have gone underwater...? And that in a imaginary and fictional world like the DA world, dragons could be seen a surviving dinosaurs. As of know, we don't seem to know anything about the origins of dragons in the DA world. Other than they are Old Gods...

On topic:
Please make it so that wildlife e.g. wolves and boars and such have a natural comfort zone and only when the player (or party) gets close they'll attack. As always, this is suggestion...

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Zombie_Alexis wrote...

I know it's a trope and just a game, but I always feel bad killing the wolves in game. Mostly because in the back of my mind I'm thinking "these wolves must be desperately hungry to attack a well-armed group of adventurers. Usually they'd shy away or try to get at a lone, unarmed person if they were hungry enough to attack a human". And then I feel bad because I killed a pack of starving animals. What made me feel *really* bad was killing the packs of Mabari's on the Wounded Coast. Ugh!


But killing people is okay, because....they are evul? :huh:

I understand clichés aren't always that great to have around, but complaining about wolves getting killed in a game is just laughable. The people who are afraid they are "villainised" should just make sure that people in real life know that wolves aren't like that. Done.

It's almost like those people thinking shooter games or something make gamers go on shooting sprees.

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fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...
I love how you've gone completely off topic so let me join you. I don't know if dragons are supposed to be lizards, but dinosaurs actually aren't or even related much to lizards. They're in a group which includes birds and crcodilians.


If they are not lizards, then what are they? They are reptilians. Well, evolution theory have many holes to begin with. In any way, i stick to the belief that dragons in most cultures are surviving dinosaurs until they are extinct. Traditions pass down later it become myth, exaggerated, and many things added in.

It is interesting that dragons in Asia are goodies but dragons in the west are baddies. In Asia, dragons are protectors, they are associated with good values and honored but in the west, dragons are beast to be put down, vile and notorious. Maybe the surviving dinosaurs in Asia are mostly non-carnivorous and not like in the west and so Asian look them as good nature while the west view them as bad. If you look at the chart map of dinosaurs location, most of meat eating dinosaurs are located in the west

But "Naga" literally a big snake in Sanskrit, maybe they are what you people call as Anacondas. But if translate "Naga" into English it will be translated as "Dragon". One of my people old term for Cobra is "Naga Bore" (spell as Bow-Rae), this snake can be as big as coconut tree (as according to some villagers and maybe it is an exaggeration) and some spit venom, so maybe dragons spitting fire is an exaggeration of this snake

Modifié par Qistina, 21 septembre 2013 - 07:53 .


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Qistina wrote...
If they are not lizards, then what are they? They are reptilians. Well, evolution theory have many holes to begin with. In any way, i stick to the belief that dragons in most cultures are surviving dinosaurs until they are extinct. Traditions pass down later it become myth, exaggerated, and many things added in.

Well they're dinosaurs, that's what they are. If you want to call it something that we still have today, they're birds. Or rather birds are considered a category of dinosaurs. I haven't actually researched this but that seems unlikely since any living dinosaurs would look more like birds than dragons. But fossils, sure. Like you said though, western dragons and eastern dragons don't even seem related at all besides the name, and eastern dragons resemble snakes more than any dinosaur.

aries1001 wrote...

Is it that far fetched that at some point in time dinosaurs such as plesiosaurus may have gone underwater...? And that in a imaginary and fictional world like the DA world, dragons could be seen a surviving dinosaurs. As of know, we don't seem to know anything about the origins of dragons in the DA world. Other than they are Old Gods...

Yup that's very far fetched considering they aren't dinosaurs. :P Prolly what the loch ness monster is though if it exists

and it doesn't seem like evolution is a thing in dragon age, or most fantasy games for that matter. Especially when gods and men like "races" are involved. Or basic biology. Like it's not even clear if humans, elves, dwarves and qunari are the same species or not lol.

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fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...
Well they're dinosaurs, that's what they are. If you want to call it something that we still have today, they're birds. Or rather birds are considered a category of dinosaurs. I haven't actually researched this but that seems unlikely since any living dinosaurs would look more like birds than dragons. But fossils, sure. Like you said though, western dragons and eastern dragons don't even seem related at all besides the name, and eastern dragons resemble snakes more than any dinosaur.


Well, it is hard to determine what a dinosaur is, because as according to evolution there are intermediate organisms, even though there are no evidence of these intermediate organism...such half bird and half lion for example...these things only exist in myth and legends such as Griffons

I think maybe when dinosaurs are going to extinct, their food is scarce, they become rare, the climate changing, then they attack ancient human settlements for food especially in the west, because carnivorous dinosaurs mostly populated in the west. So there are heroes among ancient human, the story passed down and evolved. Maybe originally they fought these dinosaurs with ancient equipment such as spears and fur armor, but the story changed as according to current technology, in medieval the story say they fought using metal armor and sword, the dinosaurs are fire breathing lizards....then it become urban legend, bards use it, story writers use it, game developers use it, movie makers use it...dragons itself evolved into many types as what people can imagined

So what is a "Dragon"? It differs in cross cultures, and yes in Asia Dragons are mostly snake-like, as i mention above "Naga" is literally a big snake, but it also means dragons, some "Dragons" have legs and wings but the body still snake-like...not like in the west where Dragons are basically T-Rex with wings, but in modern fantasy it is a mix up between Asian dragon and Western dragon and so we can see Dragon Age and Skyrim type of dragon, long neck, long tail, dinosaur-like body, have legs and wings

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fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

I've been playing some Tomb Raider and it abosolutely annoys me that once again the wolves are out on a search and destroy mission for Lara Croft. What is gaming's obsession with using murderous wolves as the go to bad guy? Can't we use real animals that kill people, like Hippos?


MODEDIT: Corrected name.


I would seriously love having the Orlesian hippos as antagonists.

Edit: Or a particularly aggressive flock of seals.

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aries1001 wrote...
Wolves in real life are naturaly shy; thus the shy away from contact with humans. Unless they are very hungry or really, really sick with say rabies. 

Is that true, and does that translate?

I understood there was a habituation problem with wolves - that they're only really agressive towards humans if they're familiar with them. And given no society would tolerate wolf attacks, the only ones that are still around are the ones still unfamiliar enough with humans to not be habituation. 

So "shy" could well be a trait or perception we've created through successful hunting them and pushing them from human areas, which wouldn't translate to an environment and culture in which they're a far more common occurance.

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Replace spiders with millions of tiny flesh eating ants or wasp swarms the size of texas, replace wolves with tigers, lions and godzilla, replace bears with cthulhu then have cthulhu and godzilla battle it out plus throw in biollante for good measure.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 23 septembre 2013 - 01:09 .