641 réponses à ce sujet

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

A question for anyone who can answer:

 

The drop rate is 7.5%. Looking over ComradeShepherd's tables, the lower bound for three of the four packs just barely squeeks in under that, while the upper bound listed is much higher. All but one of the packs ended up with a point estimate closer to 8 than 7.5 (the lowest was 7.74.)

 

I haven't thread through all of Comrade's notes, but did anyone ever account for this? It certainly seems close enough to the number in the code, so I suppose it could all be RNG coincidence, but I'm curious enough to ask (and never studied statistics in University.)

 

Edit: And it's entirely possible that I have misconstrued what those terms mean.

 

[Alfonsedode]

my guess wld be it s easier to remember packs with UR, or said differently, u dont forget those UR, but can easily forget to count one empty ArseP from time to time

[Fuenf789]

...
... "7.5" ... ..."closer to 8..

Psst. : 8, 11.7, 22.5, 23.5, are all related to 7.5.

"Why's" are asked in other threads - let sleeping dogs lie and play the game for dawgs sake. Rawr.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

my guess wld be it s easier to remember packs with UR, or said differently, u dont forget those UR, but can easily forget to count one empty ArseP from time to time

 

I had a similar thought.

 

Psst. : 8, 11.7, 22.5, 23.5, are all related to 7.5.

"Why's" are ask in other threads - let sleeping dogs lie and play the game for dawgs sake. Rawr.

 

I honestly have a lot of trouble understanding what you are trying to say most of the time.

[Fuenf789]

...lot of trouble understanding ...

Yes, I noticed the message could be a bit concentrated, in retrospect, since not all followed 24 pages of this discussion.

The answer was done in context to the history of this thread. (and exchanges therein , especially of the last pages). Necro posts is always a challenge

That is why I belief it was a good call to raise that warning point , especially since a number of your last posts was fully out of context of the discussions herein.

So 7.5 (of all imaginable units /measures) , plays a big role in this thread. And the amount of crosstalk is high. Some have never moved beyond that face value and probably never will).
Now in retrospect, (from latest learnings outside this thread), we have seen that sinful aka Terminator Force 's 63 million credit spree, actually was not so far off - even though a number of veterans has made fun of his outcomes.

Hence I suggest you raise your point/ discussion in a more recent / new thread.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

That is why I belief it was a good call to raise that warning point , especially since a number of your last posts was fully out of context of the discussions herein.

 

After debating with myself, I think I concluded that it would be best not to ask you to clarify what you mean by this.

 

So 7.5 (of all imaginable units /measures) , plays a big role in this thread. And the amount of crosstalk is high. Some have never moved beyond that face value and probably never will).
Now in retrospect, (from latest learnings outside this thread), we have seen that Terminator Force 's 68 million credit spree, actually was not so far off - even though a number of veterans has made fun of his outcomes.

 

This does not explain what you said to me in the slightest, nor does it have anything to do with my question.

 

Hence I suggest you raise your point/ discussion in a more recent / new thread.

 

If you don't want to answer the question, then don't. If you don't want to discuss this thread's subject in here, then don't. My question pertained directly to the information linked and discussed in this thread. It refers directly to this thread and has nothing to do with any other thread.

[regack]

my guess wld be it s easier to remember packs with UR, or said differently, u dont forget those UR, but can easily forget to count one empty ArseP from time to time

 
Depends on how everyone collected their data.  I had a small notebook where I wrote down what each pack contained, then I could count them up that way.  No idea how everyone else collected their data.  
 
Also,
 

It has been

a while since

I last saw

this thread, so

thanks for bumping

it up, Jer

...I got a warning point

[wass12]

 

A question for anyone who can answer:

 

The drop rate is 7.5%. Looking over ComradeShepherd's tables, the lower bound for three of the four packs just barely squeeks in under that, while the upper bound listed is much higher. All but one of the packs ended up with a point estimate closer to 8 than 7.5 (the lowest was 7.74.)

 

I haven't thread through all of Comrade's notes, but did anyone ever account for this? It certainly seems close enough to the number in the code, so I suppose it could all be RNG coincidence, but I'm curious enough to ask (and never studied statistics in University.)

 

Edit: And it's entirely possible that I have misconstrued what those terms mean.

 

For Arsenal Packs, the lower bound is higher than 7.5%, so really there is a contradiction between the datamined values and the statistical analysis. What causes it? I was suspecting some bias on part of the data providers, but the observation of my own results with the store confirmed ComradeShepard's values. And all of my other hypotheses should lower the drop rates, not increase it.

[Angry_Elcor]

 

the brillant elcor

 

The whatnow?

 

did anyone ever account for this?

 

Gnomes. Gnomes messing with the dice.

 

brillant elcor

 

HA! I bet I don't look so brilliant anymore, do I?

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

For Arsenal Packs, the lower bound is higher than 7.5%, so really there is a contradiction between the datamined values and the statistical analysis.

 

One always expects some discrepancy in statistics. And we tend to naturally look for and see patterns, sometimes even in things that are random. So I'm open to the idea that I'm seeing a pattern in coincidence, but I my first thought was very similar to Alfonse' post, that people would be more likely to forget/underreport small purchasing sprees that produced no Ultra Rares.

[Fuenf789]

... my question.
If you don't want to answer the question, then don't.

Exactly this point was raised on page 7 point f of the report. ...And possible explanations given.
http://forum.bioware...1#entry19898617

That's is why I am suprised that you raised coincidentally the same point 1day later, but rather choose to address it in another thread that have cooled down a while.

So either u didn't read the report afterall, or u are trying to paraphrase it?

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Exactly this point was raised on page 7 point f of the report. ...And possible explanations given.
https://www.dropbox....CTIONS.pdf?dl=0

That's is why I am suprised that you raised coincidentally the same point 1day later, but rather choose to address it in another thread that have cooled down a while.

So either do didn't read the report afterall, or u are trying to paraphrase it?

 

I have run out of patience for whatever it is you think that you're doing. Do what you like, and I will leave you to it.

[Fuenf789]

Caught out

[Salarian Master Race]

I have run out of patience for whatever it is you think that you're doing. Do what you like, and I will leave you to it.

 

Isn't there some option to make posts by a given user invisible?  I have never used it before but I think I am ready to start.

[Dalakaar]

I have run out of patience for whatever it is you think that you're doing. Do what you like, and I will leave you to it.

Came to the same conclusion. Worked out thus far!

 

Isn't there some option to make posts by a given user invisible?  I have never used it before but I think I am ready to start.

There is a block function. I've used it about 2-3 times over the years. 

[Angry_Elcor]

whatever it is you think that you're doing

 

 

But the math equivalent. For the record, I don't advise that anyone actually click that link. As for me, I find my drop rate improves tremendously when I drink. Or maybe it's just that I don't care as much when I don't get anything good out of an Arsenal Pack.

[Alfonsedode]

 

HA! I bet I don't look so brilliant anymore, do I?

 

that s even better

[7twozero]

24 arsenal packs, 4 of them had a single ultra rare and 1 was a double ultra rare pack. BW, valiant, saber, wraith, talon, and harrier upgrades for anyone curious.

[Catastrophy]

Isn't there some option to make posts by a given user invisible?  I have never used it before but I think I am ready to start.

Sure thing, I've used it to avoid the worst brain haemorrhaging. However it is well hidden. Either that or some RNG function makes it available only on your lucky day.

[niniendowarrior]

Is there statistical data that shows how much the percentage of drop increased for weapons with arsenal packs and for character drops with reserve pack vs premium spectre pack?

[MrRated82]

I hate RNGesus!

[7twozero]

20 arsenal packs, 17th had a venom vii upgrade, 20th had hurricane x and javelin ix, 3 ultra rares total

[Fuenf789]

20 arsenal packs, 17th had a venom vii upgrade, 20th had hurricane x and javelin ix, 3 ultra rares total

21/7=? Wth

[7twozero]

Wat

[Fuenf789]

Wat

Should I deny that?