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What Will Define DA:I as a Mature game


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I"m curious and I haven't seen this topic yet so I'll ask.  The Dragon Age franchise has been known to be rated mature by ESBRG (or something) and PEGI 17, but what will define this game to have a mature rating? Since it feels like it's going to follow its predecessor's lead.

Will it be boobies, sexual stufff?
will it be gore, blood all around, and body parts flying? how in depth? I haven't seen much of this on the gameplay
Will it be the worldly problems that can relate to our world?
Or anything else?

I would like to see a reason what would make this game a mature kind of game and not just a rated mature but a rated T gameplay. so any thoughts?

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Please note that is it PEGI 18 as the european game rating system doesn't operate with a rating of 17+ (Mature). But with PEGI 18 and PEGI 16. (and PEGI 3, 7 and 12). Please also note that mostly the PEGI system will allow the show of partial nudity if it is presented in a context where it is natural. (just information here). Also, Germany has its own rating system, called the USK. Other countries have other rating systems, both for games and for movies.

As for what will make DA: Inquisiton a mature game, I really don't think adding boobies and other sexual stuff in the game will make it more mature; adolescent maybe, but certainly not mature. DA: Origins is labeled as aMature game (or in Europe mostly, PEGI 18), not mainly for its sexual stuff, but for the way it presents its themes, topics and subjects. Would a 12 year be able to understand the complexity of say the choice in the quest/mission where you have to choice between killing an innocent woman (a mother) or killing demon/child (as I remember it). I think not.

Also, DA: Origins is a very political game, most notable in the form of the Landsmeet. But if you're playing a mage elf and have Wynne in your party she has some really interesting thing to say about some people's view on elves, among other things that dismissal of elves etc. usually comes for fear etc. (as always, this is just information) I, for one, hope to see Bioware using the same way of making the game mature.

As for for why ratings are useful:

Let me just mention the quest: A paragon of her kind; even I got scared.(and I'm well over 45 ;) ) Not to mention this: Would a 12 or 15 year old boy or girl understand this;.would or could they possibly comprehend that the darkspawn makes new darkspawn by forcing females of all races underground turning them into birth machines. Could or wouldn't there be a risk that the 12 or 15 year old boy or girl came to think of their own mothers; I suggest to you, yes certain this could happen. And such is the nature of the ratings for both games and movies. They are there to protect our children from what they might no be old enough to understand* e.g. that something which happens in a game (or in a movie) is indeed fictional i.e. happening in an imaginary world.
(that Bioware or the movie's director has made up). * And by understand have the cognitive facilities to recognize that this part or this part or the whole game or movie takes place in world that is entirely fictional.

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thank you so much for clarifying about DA: O contents and the ESRB and PEGI ratings.  Yes, I see that the themes are more important than the sexual stuff (mind you i don't mind seeing sexual stuff though).


From what Allan Schumacher said about watching RoboCop and Friday the 13th, he was pointing out that parental supervision is important to these mature stuff.  We should know though that whatever ratings a game is, juvenile-adolescence will still try to play these kinds of games.  It will be a safe bet that a 13 year old is being a gangster by now playing GTA: 5 (I'm not playing that since that game's not my teapot eventhough I'm already way past the mature rating).  This might cause media outbreak how ridiculous the game is or why the game's even allowed.  I see this as an artistic barrier in which artistic talents, like BIoware, are being barred to show what the real potential this game is trying to convey through teams.

So my next questions are:

Once the game is release should there be an extra precaution or caveat that should be put up before the game starts that the game is for mature audience only and if they agree, they are agreeing that they are mature audience and can't file complaints if the player is actually just a teenager and younger?  

Would this ward off media attention effectively?

Is BioWare actually intimidated on what the media say that affects their writing process?


Note: I'm not putting this thread as a flare war but to just gain honest feedback and knowledge from the community.  I just want to know if this game will be awesome because it is what the game creators want it meant to be and not because it was shaped by media opinions due to their reaction towards mature nudity/violence/graphic/theme eventhough it is in context.

Modifié par dduane o, 20 septembre 2013 - 06:46 .


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mupp3tz

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You're right. It's the bewbs. All 8 of em:
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All the games had boobies.

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DAO was rated M for blood, intense violence, language, partial nudity, and sexual content.
DA2 was rated M for blood and gore, language, sexual content, and violence.

I expect DAI to have blood, violence, language, and sex. There's your M rating.

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I still find it funny that DAO gives us a naked demon with breast, yet gave the romances the horrifying undies scenes.

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All rape, all the time.

It is mature.

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MasterScribe wrote...

DAO was rated M for blood, intense violence, language, partial nudity, and sexual content.
DA2 was rated M for blood and gore, language, sexual content, and violence.

I expect DAI to have blood, violence, language, and sex. There's your M rating.

It might depend on how graphic the sex is.

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I'd say after Fawx News "scandal" Bioware became way too cautious about mature content in it's games. Witcher series handles mature stuff much much better.

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The whole game will be like playing Arl Howe's dungeon with nude mods installed.

That's to say, penises, penises everywhere.

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Orian Tabris wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

DAO was rated M for blood, intense violence, language, partial nudity, and sexual content.
DA2 was rated M for blood and gore, language, sexual content, and violence.

I expect DAI to have blood, violence, language, and sex. There's your M rating.

It might depend on how graphic the sex is.


Neither DAO nor DA2 had "graphic" sex.

Everybody, including Isabela, wore some article of clothing before, during, and after coitus.

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The ssssssssssssssssssssssssex.

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The PC will say ****, ****, or ****** at least once a conversation.
Everyone who appears to be friendly and helpful will really be using you.
Every attempt your PC makes to help others will end in tragedy.
All your loved ones will die.
The end of the game will be the PC destroying the villain and coming to the horrible realization that they have become that which they sought to destroy.

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Not this again.

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Star fury wrote...

I'd say after Fawx News "scandal" Bioware became way too cautious about mature content in it's games. Witcher series handles mature stuff much much better.


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How do you mean witcher handled mature better?
I thought Fawx main issue was with  "reproductive activities with aliens"?

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EntropicAngel wrote...

Not this again.

YES this again!

Wait... what do you mean "again"? Has this topic happened before?

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zMataxa wrote...

Star fury wrote...

I'd say after Fawx News "scandal" Bioware became way too cautious about mature content in it's games. Witcher series handles mature stuff much much better.


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How do you mean witcher handled mature better?
I thought Fawx main issue was with  "reproductive activities with aliens"?




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zMataxa wrote...

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How do you mean witcher handled mature better?
I thought Fawx main issue was with  "reproductive activities with aliens"?


TW has naked women but no naked men. That's "better," somehow.

And the Fox News thing is nothing at all. I find it amusing that some people are so affected by it that even when Bioware themselves (in the form of Gaider) says that they are putting in the amount of nudity, whatnot, that they WANT to put in (not the amount they're censoring themselves to), these people return to Fox News.

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MasterScribe wrote...

zMataxa wrote...

Star fury wrote...

I'd say after Fawx News "scandal" Bioware became way too cautious about mature content in it's games. Witcher series handles mature stuff much much better.


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How do you mean witcher handled mature better?
I thought Fawx main issue was with  "reproductive activities with aliens"?




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Any chance you could give me the ultra nutshell version of this?  Please?



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EntropicAngel wrote...

Not this again.


Yes, this again!

FF XIII needs more ssssssssssssssssssex maturity too.

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The fact that it'll be rated M for Mature.

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When I am able to do cocaine off flemeth's chest.

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EntropicAngel wrote...
TW has naked women but no naked men. That's "better," somehow.

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I HOPE that's not what is meant by better. 

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EntropicAngel wrote...
And the Fox News thing is nothing at all. I find it amusing that some people are so affected by it that even when Bioware themselves (in the form of Gaider) says that they are putting in the amount of nudity, whatnot, that they WANT to put in (not the amount they're censoring themselves to), these people return to Fox News.

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Sorry I didn't quite follow/get the last 3 phrases.  Can you explain a bit more?

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Congratulations, you are now in-charge of the Inquisition.

Your character spends all day sitting behind a desk reading reports from Cassandra. An entire questline is dedicated to reconciling and approving time cards because Varric rounded his work time up. You have the epic choice of granting or denying Cullen's request for vacation time.

As for romances, those will be very realistic, your PC goes home to a cookie-cutter mansion (underwater on its mortgage of course) in Val Royeux where they are trapped in a loveless marriage with a woman whose beauty is only a fading memory. If no one is feeling "tired" or "has a headache" you might get a few minutes of passionless humping.

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wolfhowwl wrote...

Congratulations, you are now in-charge of the Inquisition.

Your character spends all day sitting behind a desk reading reports from Cassandra. An entire questline is dedicated to reconciling and approving time cards because Varric rounded his work time up. You have the epic choice of granting or denying Cullen's request for vacation time.

As for romances, those will be very realistic, your PC goes home to an underwater mansion in Val Royeux where they are trapped in a loveless marriage with a woman whose beauty is only a fading memory. If no one is feeling "tired" or "has a headache" you might get a few minutes of passionless humping.


That is actually....really well put together.

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The DA games don't seem to be like the M rating yet it really really doesn't feel like a T rated game either. I think it has more mature themes in the story or at least in DA:0, specifically the city elf origin since it involves rape. But other than other mature story components it's not really THAT mature. The sex scenes were tame in both games, which is fine, and the gore wasn't crazy crazy. Or maybe I'm just to used to all this gore and sexual content in other games/movies.... Lol. But then again what makes any game "mature" other than sex scenes and nudity?