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[Sabariel]

Don't make Qunari women shorter than human men. And don't make Varric (or any other possible dwarven LI) only avaliable to other dwarves. Don't reinforce the tired old "the woman must be shorter than the man" garbage. Please.

Modifié par Sabariel, 21 septembre 2013 - 01:03 .

[Kalyppso]

When have they ever done that?
As a human you could romance Zevran or Fenris / Merrill who are both shorter than you. (:

But Fenris' slouching made it weird to gauge.

[Sabariel]

Fenris is not shorter. The height of elven men was upped in DA2. The height of elven women was not.

[General TSAR]

Did you ever play as a dwarf in DA:O?

[sandalisthemaker]

I'm sure the female "Qunari" Inquisitor will be taller than everyone except Iron Bull.

[Sabariel]

MasterScribe wrote...

Male elves were shorter than Morrigan and Leliana in DAO.

And the height of elven men was upped in DA2 to make them the same height as human women, because, y'know, if men are shorter than their women the world folds in upon itself.

[Sabariel]

General TSAR wrote...

Did you ever play as a dwarf in DA:O?

DAO is not the most recent game. DA2 is. In DA2, they upped the height of elven men (and didn't touch the height of elven women), so they weren't shorter than a female Hawke. That concerned me, because that looked like "Gee, male LIs can't be shorter than the female PC! How silly!"

[Kalyppso]

Sabariel wrote...

Fenris is not shorter. The height of elven men was upped in DA2. The height of elven women was not.

Ha. I always thought that was just my eyes or the angles people were standing at or differences in horizon ... but now that you've confirmed that for me ... and that I've checked a few Youtube vids to be sure ... @_@ that's ridiculous.

Sorry. I hadn't realized that the elves had been tweaked beyond their facial features.

[Sabariel]

EntropicAngel wrote...

 You may not have noticed, but the average height of females IRL is shorter than that of males.
Them's the facts. It isn't garbage, it's reality.

You may not have noticed, but Qunari, elves, and dwarves do not exist in real life and don't need to adhere to real life averages. kthxbaibai.

[spike08]

Sabariel wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

 You may not have noticed, but the average height of females IRL is shorter than that of males.
Them's the facts. It isn't garbage, it's reality.

You may not have noticed, but Qunari, elves, and dwarves do not exist in real life and don't need to adhere to real life averages. kthxbaibai.

and since fiction can be based off of reality, sometimes warped in people's imagination, it would not be a stretch to have female qunari be shorter/smalle

also given the lore that Sten introduced that females aren't  expected to be warriors, one could deduce that they are the smaller of the sexes

Modifié par spike08, 21 septembre 2013 - 01:31 .

[Sabariel]

scyphozoa wrote...

Yeah, sexual dimorphism is a real thing, and probably applies to fictional species even in Dragon Age. I don't think your request is unreasonable, but I also don't think that having dimorphism in game is unreasonable.

Yes? And it's only considered sexual dimorphism if the male is taller than the female? It cannot be the other way around for one or two fictional species?

[Allan Schumacher]

Mademon wrote...

Ha. I always thought that was just my eyes or the angles people were standing at or differences in horizon ... but now that you've confirmed that for me ... and that I've checked a few Youtube vids to be sure ... @_@ that's ridiculous.

Sorry. I hadn't realized that the elves had been tweaked beyond their facial features.

In DAO, elves were scaled down versions of the human rigs (so were dwarves, if you're curious).  In DA2, they are actually a distinct model.

Though suggesting that it was intentionally done to ensure that male elves will be taller than even female humans is a bit of an adversarial position to take (and ultimately one that just turns into he-said/she-said since there's likely not much in the way of what we could say that could convince you otherwise).

[Sabariel]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Sabariel wrote...

You may not have noticed, but Qunari, elves, and dwarves do not exist in real life and don't need to adhere to real life averages. kthxbaibai.

Why shouldn't they?

*hoping for an actual answer instead of "BECAUSEFANTASY"*

Why should they?

*hoping for an actual answer instead of "BECAUSEREALITY"*

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Bait-and-switch.

This thread has nothing to do with jellybeans. 

[Allan Schumacher]

Why should they?

There's nothing saying that they should or shouldn't.

They are, however, drawn and created by human beings and with that implicit assumptions will occur.

However, stating the following comes across as a rather hostile perspective:

And the height of elven men was upped in DA2 to make them the same height as human women, because, y'know, if men are shorter than their women the world folds in upon itself.

You immediately will put me on the defensive, which means you now must break through my irrational humanity as the implication that I (or my colleagues) may have had biased (and discriminatory) reasons for the decision is going to create an unnecessary wall of resistance that never needed to be created.

[sandalisthemaker]

OP, I thought you were concerned about "Qunari" females in particular. They will be taller than everyone except "Qunari" males.

Sexual dimorphism will be present simply because men are taller on average than women, and making height sliders is highly unlikely.
The Qunari seem to have a rather pronounced sexual dimorphism. Females will be much thinner than the immensly ripped males, and I wouldn't be surprised if females cannot have horns anywhere near as large as even the size of the average male's horns.

[Ryzaki]

I'll be happy as long as female Qunari are taller than everyone save male Qunari.

They are horn headed giants after all. The males being huge and the females being little will hit my ehh buttons.