No. I advocate taking the necessary actions to save oneself from extinction.EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Didn't you just, no more than 5 posts before this one, advocate genocide against humans?
Modifié par Plaintiff, 29 septembre 2013 - 04:06 .
But your using logic from Earth with standards from Earth but then say, it's not Earth. Full a sense.Plaintiff wrote...
Since Thedas is not Earth, and doesn't work the way that Earth does, their ability to interbreed is indicative of precisely jack squat.Br3ad wrote...
They aren't other "species" if you want to be so literal. The fact that they can interbreed makes them just as human as anyone else. Your logic is flawed.Plaintiff wrote...
A humanitarian is somone who is concerned with or seeks to promote human welfare.Ravensword wrote...
Ever the humanitarian.
In a world where other sentient species exist, merely being a humanitarian is not nearly good enough.
And no, I'm not a humanitarian, and never claimed to be. I consider myself an egalitarian.
Regardless, they aren't considered "human" in any sense of the word. Why would I be a humanitarian when the humans aren't the ones who need help?
Elven extinction is not at stake.Plaintiff wrote...
No. I advocate taking the necessary actions to save oneself from extinction.
It makes perfect sense. "Logic" is simply the use of valid reasoning. What planet you are on makes no difference whatsoever to the validity of your reasoning. And I never claimed that Thedas uses my logic.Br3ad wrote...
But your using logic from Earth with standards from Earth but then say, it's not Earth. Full a sense.Plaintiff wrote...
Since Thedas is not Earth, and doesn't work the way that Earth does, their ability to interbreed is indicative of precisely jack squat.Br3ad wrote...
They aren't other "species" if you want to be so literal. The fact that they can interbreed makes them just as human as anyone else. Your logic is flawed.Plaintiff wrote...
A humanitarian is somone who is concerned with or seeks to promote human welfare.Ravensword wrote...
Ever the humanitarian.
In a world where other sentient species exist, merely being a humanitarian is not nearly good enough.
And no, I'm not a humanitarian, and never claimed to be. I consider myself an egalitarian.
Regardless, they aren't considered "human" in any sense of the word. Why would I be a humanitarian when the humans aren't the ones who need help?
Yes it is. If you think otherwise, then you have no idea what extinction looks like.Lord Aesir wrote...
Elven extinction is not at stake.Plaintiff wrote...
No. I advocate taking the necessary actions to save oneself from extinction.
Modifié par Plaintiff, 29 septembre 2013 - 04:37 .
Lord Aesir wrote...
Elven extinction is not at stake.Plaintiff wrote...
No. I advocate taking the necessary actions to save oneself from extinction.
Hey, I can't help it if elves love human meat. That's their problem.BlueMagitek wrote...
Lord Aesir wrote...
Elven extinction is not at stake.Plaintiff wrote...
No. I advocate taking the necessary actions to save oneself from extinction.
Well unless the Elves begin some serious inbreeding, every result of a human/elf coupling is human, so there is certainly the chance for it.
Br3ad wrote...
Hey, I can't help it if elves love human meat. That's their problem.
No, it doesn't. You assume that humanatarianim would even be used in the same context in this situation, when clearly it is not. When some says, be human in DA, do you honestly think that they mean be human? It's a similar situation here, especially considering the context of how it was worded to you.Plaintiff wrote...
It makes perfect sense. "Logic" is simply the use of valid reasoning. What planet you are on makes no difference whatsoever to the validity of your reasoning. And I never claimed that Thedas uses my logic.
What doesn't make sense is applying Earth science to a fantasy world that doesn't follow our scientific laws.
Culturally maybe, even then, even the city elves have managed to hold onto a surprising amount of tradition over the past thousand years, but otherwise no. If you think otherwise explain. The elves are in no danger of dying off.Plaintiff wrote...
Yes it is. If you think otherwise, then you have no idea what extinction looks like.Lord Aesir wrote...
Elven extinction is not at stake.Plaintiff wrote...
No. I advocate taking the necessary actions to save oneself from extinction.
The humans are slowly but steadily extinguishing the elves.
Modifié par Lord Aesir, 29 septembre 2013 - 04:54 .
While that is true, every indication is that such couplings are quite rare.BlueMagitek wrote...
Lord Aesir wrote...
Elven extinction is not at stake.Plaintiff wrote...
No. I advocate taking the necessary actions to save oneself from extinction.
Well unless the Elves begin some serious inbreeding, every result of a human/elf coupling is human, so there is certainly the chance for it.
Plaintiff wrote...
Yes it is. If you think otherwise, then you have no idea what extinction looks like.Lord Aesir wrote...
Elven extinction is not at stake.Plaintiff wrote...
No. I advocate taking the necessary actions to save oneself from extinction.
The humans are slowly but steadily extinguishing the elves.
BlueMagitek wrote...
Pretty sure everyone but the Qunari need help. ~_^
I'd call that an anomaly. For the most part the elves keep their romantic attachments with other elves.BlueMagitek wrote...
Oh, given that the HN gets a brofist from his father and brother for making the appointment for the fun times with the elven servant of the visiting Lady, I'm not so sure it is as uncommon as you think, at least, officially, anyway.
Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
So is this where I state my firm support of eradicating the Dalish, murder knifing all the mages, and other such wonderful activities?
Because that would be grand.
I assume no such thing. I doubt that the term "humanitarian" even exists on Thedas.Br3ad wrote...
No, it doesn't. You assume that humanatarianim would even be used in the same context in this situation, when clearly it is not.
Yes. In a setting where there are sentient beings that are not human, I absolutely expect the term "human" to only refer to individuals that are literally members of that species. Any other usage would be extremely offensive.When some says, be human in DA, do you honestly think that they mean be human?
It's not similar at all, that's the point. The term is utterly inappropriate for the discussion at hand.It's a similar situation here, especially considering the context of how it was worded to you.
Then why are you interpreting it from a Thedosian perspective?Plaintiff wrote...
I assume no such thing. I doubt that the term "humanitarian" even exists on Thedas.Br3ad wrote...
No, it doesn't. You assume that humanatarianim would even be used in the same context in this situation, when clearly it is not.
One half of the elven population has no permanent home, no reliable source of food or water. Starvation is inevitable.Lord Aesir wrote...
Culturally maybe, even then, even the city elves have managed to hold onto a surprising amount of tradition over the past thousand years, but otherwise no. If you think otherwise explain. The elves are in no danger of dying off.Plaintiff wrote...
Yes it is. If you think otherwise, then you have no idea what extinction looks like.Lord Aesir wrote...
Elven extinction is not at stake.Plaintiff wrote...
No. I advocate taking the necessary actions to save oneself from extinction.
The humans are slowly but steadily extinguishing the elves.
I'm not at all. Its likely non-existance in Thedas is why it shouldn't be used in a Thedosian contet.Lord Aesir wrote...
Then why are you interpreting it from a Thedosian perspective?Plaintiff wrote...
I assume no such thing. I doubt that the term "humanitarian" even exists on Thedas.Br3ad wrote...
No, it doesn't. You assume that humanatarianim would even be used in the same context in this situation, when clearly it is not.
Modifié par Plaintiff, 29 septembre 2013 - 05:13 .
Hardly, there are nomadic peoples that persist today and have done so for centuries. A nomadic lifestyle is not indicative of impending extinction.Plaintiff wrote...
One half of the elven population has no permanent home, no reliable source of food or water. Starvation is inevitable.
The other half is forced to live in cramped areas, rife with disease, that cannot support the population they have currently, much less any expansion. They are unquestionably doomed.
Modifié par Lord Aesir, 29 septembre 2013 - 05:21 .
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I'm not at all. Its likely non-existance in Thedas is why it shouldn't be used in a Thedosian contet.Lord Aesir wrote...
Then why are you interpreting it from a Thedosian perspective?Plaintiff wrote...
I assume no such thing. I doubt that the term "humanitarian" even exists on Thedas.Br3ad wrote...
No, it doesn't. You assume that humanatarianim would even be used in the same context in this situation, when clearly it is not.
If it is used in Thedas, then that means their use of langauge is inherently racist.
You said:Plaintiff wrote...
I'm not at all. It's likely non-existance in Thedas is why it shouldn't be used in a Thedosian contet.Lord Aesir wrote...
Then why are you interpreting it from a Thedosian perspective?Plaintiff wrote...
I assume no such thing. I doubt that the term "humanitarian" even exists on Thedas.Br3ad wrote...
No, it doesn't. You assume that humanatarianim would even be used in the same context in this situation, when clearly it is not.
If it is used in Thedas, then that means their use of langauge is inherently racist.
In our own world, this refers to all sentient species, because humans are the only one. By insisting that it only applies to humans in a context where there are multiple, you give it an entirely different meaning from that which it possesses in our real life perspective. Therefore such a meaning can only be held from a Thedosian perspective. From such a perspective it is indeed racist, but that is the perspective you are interpreting it from.A humanitarian is somone who is concerned with or seeks to promote human welfare.
Pro Templars.......always condemning a group for the actions of a few.When you guys learn that not all mages are the same?Master Warder Z wrote...
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Br3ad wrote...
All is far in love and war.
And if you lose in either don't expect any sympathy if you have spent 900 years crying about it and have made no steps to change.
Exactly the Mages have whined, staged insurrection and killed countless inoccents in the past centuries but they expect them to flock to their banner? Not if my Inquistor has anything to do with it they will.
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