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What makes the Dragon Age lore so special?


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Maiden Crowe

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Just thought I would make a thread for people to share their thoughts on what draws them to the Dragon Age universe above all others, in a world full of shameless rip-offs what makes the Dragon Age universe stand out?

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Flemeth? Who's a centuries-old sorceress who dresses in tights thinking that she's hot?

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I think most fantasy lore is fairly derivative.

Its the characters and places that make DA "unique."

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MasterScribe wrote...

I think most fantasy lore is fairly derivative.

Its the characters and places that make DA "unique."


Details my boy, what is it about the Characters and Places that make DA "unique."?

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Bioware`s artist/writers/designers mostly.

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Gaider has people helping him develope the lore.
There was a thread about that some months.
Not a knock on Gaider but there are a lot of fantasy rpg writers who have developed a lore that the fans find fascinating .
The exception with DA is there's a decent rpg video game associated with it.

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I like how Andrasteism is faith based, but is based on passed events like magisters really going to the golden city.

I like how the revered mothers/ clerics arent white mages like you typical rpg. Instead their white mages are persecuted and locked up

I like how the different religions try to explain the world and how some of their myths are similar.

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Broodmothers. Plus I don't think anyone's ever done dragons in the exact way the Urn Of Sacred Ashes quest does them.

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Green Ronin.
Rotfl.

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Broodmothers. Nothing else quite lived up to the dark fantasy aspect, but they certainly did. And the presentation of the one in DA:O... flawless.

DA2 tried to do the 'dark fantasy' aspect with making Kirkwall a literal 'cursed city' and the whole city layout was a giant magical glyph from the days when people were regularly sacrificed to archdemons and other horrific uses... but this potentially frightening idea was never referred to outside of lore entries. A pity, as it had huge potential.

Modifié par Vicious, 21 septembre 2013 - 06:25 .


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Angrywolves wrote...

Gaider has people helping him develope the lore.
There was a thread about that some months.
Not a knock on Gaider but there are a lot of fantasy rpg writers who have developed a lore that the fans find fascinating .
The exception with DA is there's a decent rpg video game associated with it.

Skyrim

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Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Gaider has people helping him develope the lore.
There was a thread about that some months.
Not a knock on Gaider but there are a lot of fantasy rpg writers who have developed a lore that the fans find fascinating .
The exception with DA is there's a decent rpg video game associated with it.

Skyrim


What about Daggerfall and Morrowind?

Arena and Oblivion were okay

Modifié par MasterScribe, 21 septembre 2013 - 06:25 .


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The way they handled dwarves were unique. Example: in LOTR dwarves are ugly little creatures that hate anything that isn't one of them, and their women are usually mistaken for men.

Elves are not the all-powerful creatures who rule everything or have some advanced knowledge. The opposite actually.

And then magic. It's feared and taboo, which is very different from many magical worlds. In D&D no one blinks if you run into a town and start throwing fireballs, but in DA you would be hunted down and likely killed.

On top of those there is the whole Darkspawn/ Blight/ Taint thing, which I thought was very different. I had never read or played a story with that sort of element.

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Maiden Crowe wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

I think most fantasy lore is fairly derivative.

Its the characters and places that make DA "unique."


Details my boy, what is it about the Characters and Places that make DA "unique."?

You sound like all the English teachers I've ever had :lol:

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Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Broodmothers. Plus I don't think anyone's ever done dragons in the exact way the Urn Of Sacred Ashes quest does them.


And what way was that?

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It's well imagined  but they haven't bothered to go into the more interesting aspects.
some stuff i found cool:

Corypheus wondered why he found the City Black, when Dumat promised him it would be Golden, Andraste/The Chant claims it was the act of entry that 'blackened' it, but the Magister says it was already black when he got there.

Flemeth: "Perhaps I AM a dragon."

Morrigan: "Flemeth is an ancient abomination!"

Dragons and Dragon cults are pretty cool too.

That said they have done a poor job (intentionally?) of answering questions and tying anything together.

Modifié par Vicious, 21 septembre 2013 - 06:34 .


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Cyanide Disaster wrote...

In D&D no one blinks if you run into a town and start throwing fireballs.


Except in Athkatla

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The characters and the medieval-fantasy-esque setting.

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Maiden Crowe wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

I think most fantasy lore is fairly derivative.

Its the characters and places that make DA "unique."


Details my boy, what is it about the Characters and Places that make DA "unique."?


They are specific to the series:

a misanthropic, but harmless shapeshifting witch

a sarcastic and reluctant royal bastard

a stoic, cookie-loving giant

a female bard with the voice of an angel who can love you as easily as kill you

an alcoholic dwarf with marital issues

a female golem who hates birds

a devious but patriotic warrior-noble with an understandable motive

underground kingdoms full of American-accented dwarves

nomadic tribes and city ghettoes full of resentful, disillusioned elves

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Maiden Crowe wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Broodmothers. Plus I don't think anyone's ever done dragons in the exact way the Urn Of Sacred Ashes quest does them.


And what way was that?


One important distinction is that they don't talk. That's been done before, but I think it's fairly rare in Tolkien-inspired works. Also, while there have been dragon cults in other works I think they normally start to look like Dragons.

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MasterScribe wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

Gaider has people helping him develope the lore.
There was a thread about that some months.
Not a knock on Gaider but there are a lot of fantasy rpg writers who have developed a lore that the fans find fascinating .
The exception with DA is there's a decent rpg video game associated with it.

Skyrim


What about Daggerfall and Morrowind?

Arena and Oblivion were okay

Those too.

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Maiden Crowe wrote...

Cyanide Disaster wrote...

In D&D no one blinks if you run into a town and start throwing fireballs.


Except in Athkatla


I haven't played in that area of D&D (I haven't played since I was 15, and with my dad on top of that).

Another example of a universe where magic is accepted would be Dragon Lance. Though they had the 3 "types": White, Red and Black magics (because of the three moon gods, it was pretty good lore).

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MasterScribe wrote...

Maiden Crowe wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

I think most fantasy lore is fairly derivative.

Its the characters and places that make DA "unique."


Details my boy, what is it about the Characters and Places that make DA "unique."?


They are specific to the series:

a misanthropic, but harmless shapeshifting witch

a sarcastic and reluctant royal bastard

a stoic, cookie-loving giant

a female bard with the voice of an angel who can love you as easily as kill you

an alcoholic dwarf with marital issues

a female golem who hates birds

a devious but patriotic warrior-noble with an understandable motive

underground kingdoms full of American-accented dwarves

nomadic tribes and city ghettoes full of resentful, disillusioned elves

You do realize most of those are common tropes right?

Modifié par Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke, 21 septembre 2013 - 06:58 .


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MasterScribe wrote...

an alcoholic dwarf with marital issues


You're kidding right?

Modifié par Maiden Crowe, 21 septembre 2013 - 07:00 .


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Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

You do realize most of those are common tropes right?


Well, so is just about everything in the lore.

I guess there is nothing unique about Dragon Age, then.

The OP "wins."